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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Xeruh »
    Sheesh, people are seriously out of touch with fans and what would make a good story if that's the context they have.

    I'm so glad you are the only one who isn't out of touch and can tell us, the fans, what we really want.

    Quote from Xeruh »
    It's not like every story kills off all of it's named characters.

    I feel like if you'd stopped strawmanning for a minute, we might begin to have a constructive discussion. As it stands you're being extremely manipulative in your argument.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Xeruh »
    http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/184286909883/i-must-say-i-am-a-little-disappointed-with-the

    I feel like Maro really gets why just killing characters off haphazardly is pretty bad. There isn't any merit in just tossing characters into a grinder, even if some people like it that doesn't really resonate with most people.

    If they don't want to see high stakes conflicts through, then they shouldn't do high stakes conflicts.

    I really find this "omg they shouldn't kill off characters ever" to be super annoying. Nobody is asking for planeswalkers to die constantly. There's plenty of storylines where planeswalkers dying would actually detract from the plot and not fit thematically. Ixalan and Kaladesh come to mind. Even Amonkhet had an okay resolution with the planeswalkers getting their butt handed to them by Bolas, without dying. The game isn't just for those who don't want any casualties ever. To say that the only alternative is to kill planeswalkers every other set is intellectually dishonest, because that's not what the other camp is asking for. They merely ask for casualties when the story is set up in such a way that no or minimum casualties simply don't fit with the stakes established beforehand. There's a solution where you can have both, storylines with and without casualties, but asking to never do it is effectively claiming that the wants of other people are not as important as your own.

    Also, few casualties actively detract from the plot. Having Gideon die as the only character of note kind of retroactively makes the whole conflict about him. But the thing is, it isn't about him. Gideon is just one piece in it all, and not even the most important one. It is, if anything, about Bolas. Having multiple characters die "seemingly haphazardly" (major emphasis on seemingly) makes the conflict feel like a planeswalkers' war and not a personal feud between Bolas and the gatewatch.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on VorthosCast preview: Despark, Prison Realm
    Wait, where's Rhonas and Kefnet? Don't tell me they killed them off before they could do anything cool, again.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Man, they should've let some abstract artist like Therese Nielsen do Gideon's afterlife picture. This just confuses people.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Special poster for LGSs (Planeswalker Weekend 5/25-5/26)
    Quote from Empathogen »
    Why is Xenagos on this?

    That's Angrath. :p

    However, why does Huatli look like a klingon in this?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on CoL_Merchant Spoiler: Mini-story of 4 cards (Trusted Pegasus, Oketra, Divine Arrow, Unlikely Aid)
    "Fly me closer, I want to hit them with my sword."
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Yeah, I don't think Gideon's soul returned to Theros. It's just some fancy stylistic thing like the trailer going backwards. (It wasn't time travel.)
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    You know, when creative said a whole while ago that we will learn of the purpose of the gem eventually, I thought they meant an in-story purpose, not a narrative one. This particular (and kinda important) plot point could've used some foreshadowing or early establishment.

    I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty hyped about War of the Spark, but with the recent reveals and leaks I feel... disappointed.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ugin and yawgmoth....
    The plane of Phyrexia was created by a dragon planeswalker*. Ugin is a dragon. Ugin has a history of time travel.

    Ugin created Phyrexia! Illuminati confirmed. (This is 'Marit Lage is an eldrazi' all over again. :V)

    *Shaped like one, easy retcon.
    Posted in: Storyline Speculation
  • posted a message on Spark Harvest (StrictlyBetterMTG preview)
    Quote from 8CardHand »
    Well, now at least they can say that there were consequences as one planeswalker is confirmed to be dead.

    Domri was a pawn of the villain lmao.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Planar Celebration
    Quote from Xeruh »
    I mean, that just kind of cements Bolas as being a really bad villain writing-wise then, not sure why you'd go out of your way to defend bad writing. Bolas loses because he's not actually the smartest, most powerful Planeswalker that has ever lived, and because of his own mortal flaws is a lot more interesting to me than Bolas losing because Ugin comes in to save the day. No one is perfect, certainly not Bolas.

    The issue is that if you build up your villain to be all those things, then a simple defeat isn't going to cut it. That's like having some eldritch monstrosities that lay waste to entire worlds being defeated by the power of friendship, oh wait. The issue isn't that Bolas loses, but how.

    If some people are fine with such a resolution, okay I guess? But they shouldn't act as if everyone should be fine with it too, after such a long buildup. It's like not delivering on a promise.

    I agree with you by the way that Bolas is not a good villain, in large parts because he can't be reasonably defeated without some deus ex. But that's neither here nor there. Wizards decided to go with Bolas and decided to go with an arc culminating in his defeat. If they then chicken out of seeing it through, then why even have a villain in the first place? Manite was talking about wastes of time, but I see nothing as more of a waste of time in a story than being told outside the story at the conclusion of the story that everything we were told before is neither true nor relevant.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Planar Celebration
    Quote from Manite »
    I don't want to waste my time on a story with a downer ending where the good guys I've been rooting for end up losing. And I flat out reject stories that confuse "realism" with "pessimism", where the downer ending is supposed to represent some fatalistic philosophy about life. It's bad enough that real life has been disappointing and depressing, I will NOT waste my time on disappointing and depressing fiction. If the bad guy ends up winning, what's even the point of caring? What's even the point of reading the damn fiction in the first place!? Amonkhet felt like a waste of time. Shadows Over Innistrad felt like a waste of time. Scars of Mirrodin felt like a waste of time. Kaladesh, Ixalan, and Dominaria didn't feel like a waste of time.

    So yeah, pardon me if I celebrate with the Ravnicans here. Down with Bolas and good riddance. At least in fiction world, dictators and tyrants get the death and defeat they deserve.

    Story-wise Kaladesh was the biggest waste of time in recent Magic history. And Amonkhet was my absolute favourite block (story wise and flavour wise) in a long while. (Then again I'm a sucker for tragic stories, sue me.) Don't confuse your personal opinions with what is objectively good storytelling.

    The issue isn't about confusing realism with pessimism (nice strawman by the way). The issue is that Bolas is a villain who is incredibly old, has subjugated countless of worlds and is repeatedly presented as "smarter than anyone can imagine, even us writers lol". If he falls to anything short of an equal in terms of power, intelligence or foresight (like, say, Ugin) then his entire character is incredibly cheapened. And THAT is a legitimate issue. Bolas winning may not be on the table, but if it's easy enough that a bunch of "average mages" (which is what planeswalkers are nowadays) can defeat him with few losses, then the entire Bolas arc was a "waste of time", because we were told things for years that are demonstratably untrue.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    I don't think the Meditation Realm would count as a brand new plane.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Eternalized Werewolves
    Quote from Flisch »
    I have The Scarab God out and activate its ability to eternalize a dead Gatstaf Shepherd. Am I correct to assume that the token will be a black 4/4 Zombie Gatstaf Shepherd without a backface and thus unable to transform? Or does the "only the current face is copied" clause count only for permanents?


    Tokens are permanents.

    The card in the graveyard is neither a token nor a permanent, which is what I was refering to. The examples listed in the rules page only had cards copying permanents.

    Anyway, thanks for the answer.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Eternalized Werewolves
    I have The Scarab God out and activate its ability to eternalize a dead Gatstaf Shepherd. Am I correct to assume that the token will be a black 4/4 Zombie Gatstaf Shepherd without a backface and thus unable to transform? Or does the "only the current face is copied" clause count only for permanents?
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
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