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  • posted a message on KHM- Kaldheim story and flavor
    Yeah, it seems to me that Vorinclex is seeking the Tyrite sanctum for immortality reasons but then gets thwarted by Kaya. This would imply Kaya's Onslaught is a story spotlight of a later chapter, probably the final one.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [KHM] Ascendant Spirit— Raphael Levy preview
    Quote from inked2 »
    Alright so you get a 1/1, then pay 2 snow it's a 2/3, then 3 snow it's a 4/4 flier. Then 4 more snow it's 4+2/4+2 and draw a card upon hit. 4 more snow and it's an 8/8 flying draw a card upon hit, draw a card upon hit? Or just one card draw trigger?

    The card draw ability stacks, meaning with every activation of the third ability (given you meet the requirements) it gains another card draw ability which triggers separately from the others.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [KHM] Ascendant Spirit— Raphael Levy preview
    Quote from CatParty »
    There was a time when Green - because it was the color of meaty creatures - couldn't remove creatures in the battlefield. It made sense for the color pie - why should Green be able to hurt what it's all about? - but then they introduced the Fight mechanic, and recently have been just making one-sided fight effects. I'd argue any fight mechanic goes against green's color pie, since it now enables green to do something that previously only black and white could really do (And Maro seems to think White should never have even been allowed to exile creatures).

    Green's removal requires creatures in order to work. That's very green both in colour philosophy and mechanics. Just because there was no precedent for it doesn't mean it's breaking the pie.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] "Matantiga Mentor" and "Jasper Sentinel"— Anthares previews
    Why is the sentinel a rogue instead of an archer? Class types are such a mess.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Doomskar Oracle and Saw It Coming— Becca Scott previews
    Quote from Flisch »
    I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.

    This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".


    That's a good point. Still, I think the rate on this is good enough that it will see quite a bit of play. But you are probably right that it will be hard for it to really be a "bluff" - it will often just be "well they have revealed to me that they have a 2-mana counter." I think that's still strong though!

    I wasn't concered about power level. I'm mostly talking about the design itself. I feel like morph is a bit of a missed opportunity as a bluff mechanic. It's more of a cost-reduction or combo mechanic. I kinda wish manifest would be the gold standard for bluff mechanics going forward, not morph.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Doomskar Oracle and Saw It Coming— Becca Scott previews
    I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.

    This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Dragonkin Berserker (Leak)
    So who wants to pre-buy these off me for 5 bucks a pop? Should be a "steal" for that price for such a strong playable card right?

    There's a gulf of difference between "This card is not garbage" and "This card is a constructed staple". Nobody knows yet how much worth it'll be. Historically people, especially players, are garbage at predicting the power level of previewed cards. People tend to judge them based on the current meta. But the card won't be played in the current meta. It will be played in the meta including the rest of Kaldheim, which may or may not provide suitable support for this card.

    To flip your own argument around, why not sell the copies you open of this card for 10 cents? Clearly such a terrible card is worth nothing more. But that's not what you suggested, because you're actually unsure of its worth yourself. You were just trying an intimidation tactic to shut up the opposition in this argument by trying to make them look like hypocrites.

    And as people have said, this card is extremely annoying to play against in limited, if not an outright bomb. Making this uncommon would have been a huge mistake. Your claim it should have been an uncommon underlines your lack of understanding of healthy limited formats.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Leak. Vorinclex, Monstrous rider
    I find it weird that people think this is ruining Kaldheim.

    You are now invested in the fate of Kaldheim. You don't want the plane to fall to the phyrexians. There are now real stakes. You are emotionally involved.

    This is a good thing, story telling wise. Was Lord of the Rings ruined for you when Frodo left the shire and came in contact with the Nazgul for the first time and there was now the real possibility that he could die or be injured?

    I don't get this. The magic multiverse is way too much a museum of planes rather than an ecosystem of planes as it is. More interconnectivity and agents for change are a good thing in my book. (And we all know that if enough people like Kaldheim, it will not fall to the phyrexians because brand beats storytelling.)
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  • posted a message on KHM- Kaldheim story and flavor
    So okay, we got the following:
    • The phyrexians show up on other planes (I doubt Kaldheim will be about a fullblown invasion)
    • There are still mirrans alive on Mirrodin New Phyrexia
    • Koth is not willing to give up the mirrans (as far as I understand it?)
    • Tezzeret has the bridge that allows planeswalkers, inorganic material and organic material coated in special inorganic material (like lazotep) to use the bridge to travel between planes
    • Karn has retrieved the (Golgothan?) Sylex, able to cause massive devastation
    • The new Kaldheim native planeswalker Tyvar Kell has the ability to transmute flesh into any material he has access to, temporarily

    So what are the odds the following will happen with the plot in the next sets/years:

    The Phyrexians will show up in multiple worlds, in small numbers, maybe just one praetor per set. Vorinclex is in Kaldheim, Urabrask may be in Strixhaven etc etc.

    Karn wishes to destroy New Phyrexia by destabilizing the core of Mirrodin using the Sylex. Koth does not want to let this happen and after a while they learn of Tyvar's powers and realize they can evacuate the mirrans using his powers and the bridge, which means they'll go after Tezzeret to either force him to cooperate or extract the bridge from his body.

    The gatewatch teams up with Karn and retrieve a sample of lazotep from Ravnica or Amonkhet (Amonkhet would be a nice excuse to go back to the plane) for Tyvar to use as a substrate for his powers, turning the mirrans into lazotep and evacuating them elsewhere (Maybe even Amonkhet, they sure could use the numbers to rebuild and the names of the mirrans names were vaguely african to begin with? And there's no overlap in races which means each world can keep its identity.)

    Karn then uses the Sylex to destabilize New Phyrexia, destroying the plane and the hub of New Phyrexian activity, though pockets of phyrexians exist elsewhere and Karn, Elspeth, Koth and maybe part of the gatewatch go out to find and destroy the last phyrexians.

    The ending even leaves WotC and out in case they want to bring back the Phyrexians again in the future. (Because of course they will.)
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [KHM] Leak. Vorinclex, Monstrous rider
    Quote from DJK3654 »
    Throwing phyrexians in seems...unlikely. We haven't been back to Mirrodin New Phyrexia yet or had much hints at them beginning a plane crossing invasion yet. And this set already has some clear story conflicts and themes, the phyrexians are just going to overshadow all of that.
    Compared to Eldritch Moon, there we had the advantage of a whole previous block and the Shadows over Innistrad set being essentially just Innistrad based. And with Amonkhet we had the first set before the Bolas stuff went off the wall. This is our very first introduction to Kaldheim and there's Phyrexians already? That seems like a mistake, and one WotC would not likely make.

    I can see this being deliberate. Make the phyrexians return, but instead of a fullblown invasion, make them appear in small numbers as they are slowly leaking into other planes. The thing is that for the natives the threat is not yet apparent while we, the audience, watch with horror as we know the phyrexians are a major threat to any plane.

    It actually fits the style of the phyrexians and what type of horror they represent. It's like how in a horror movie we see the clueless protagonist in the foreground while the killer is stalking him in the background, visible for us but not his victim. This is giving me the same vibes.

    At any rate, this is definitely a very, very big curveball, if true. Kaldheim already seems pretty loaded for a single set. And now they're adding phyrexians. Boy, I hope wizards knows what they're doing.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Halvar, God of Battle | Sword of the Realms
    Quote from Faruel »
    Quote from Flisch »
    Justice is neither boros nor azorious firstly, coz it doesn't contain neither emotion or logic before it contains pragmatism
    It is orzhov.If we were talking Judjement it could be esper or even azorious.

    I am kinda dissapointed the gods will be monocolored. I like they are not directly immortal but indirectly. I guess reidanne will be black alrund blue thor red and loki green.

    Justice doesn't contain emotion? Justice is one of the most emotionally loaded concepts we have, apart from actual emotions.

    Justice is the biggest overlap between white and red, and also the Boros' greatest internal conflict. Justice for red is internal, red bases justice on what feels right (emotion), while white bases justice on the law (order). These two perspectives clash regularly (as they do in real life) within the Boros.

    Justice is less of a good fit for the other colours. Blue doesn't really care for justice either way and infact one of it's biggest internal conflicts is morality. Green believes in a right and wrong but interestingly not in justice itself. And for black there is no justice. If you are being treated bad, then you either pull yourself up by yourself or you don't. In fact I'd go so far and say justice is an antithesis to pragmatism, because at its core it deliberately does not necessarily align with what's convenient or useful, but what is just.


    Justice is bendable. Sometimes there are situations were something is right for somebody and for anothers not. The perspective matters. We had some black cards with Justice in the Name in the past (even if the meaning were twisted). And yeah again if we talking about Justice with law enforcement for order than that's white. Red would be just emotion driven. Justice is a concept of moral rightness. And it can be based on many things (religion, equity, law, emotion, natural law, ethics or rationality).
    Urborg Justice
    Evincar's Justice
    Tel-Jilad Justice

    Using a word on a magic card does not necessarily mean using the entire concept behind it for the colour.

    Also, in colour philosophy, when someone says "<colour> cares about / doesn't care about" that does not mean that every single character aligned with that colour cares about or doesn't care about that. Colour philosophies are ideals, and undiluted concepts. When applied to characters, they interact with other colours because no character (with the possible exception of mana constructs, give me a second) is truly only a single colour. Black, the colour, doesn't care about justice, but a black character may.

    Which is precisely why having a black god be a god of justice would be weird. Gods are embodiments of colours or a colour, and as such they should be held to a higher standard in terms of colour philosophy than mortal characters who are often an amalgamation of different colours with one or two dominant ones. I wouldn't even have a problem with a whole culture (like the angels) in Kaldheim be aligned white-black and care about justice, but it would be really, really odd for the black god to embody a concept thats actually very counter to black's core philosophies.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Halvar, God of Battle | Sword of the Realms
    Justice is neither boros nor azorious firstly, coz it doesn't contain neither emotion or logic before it contains pragmatism
    It is orzhov.If we were talking Judjement it could be esper or even azorious.

    I am kinda dissapointed the gods will be monocolored. I like they are not directly immortal but indirectly. I guess reidanne will be black alrund blue thor red and loki green.

    Justice doesn't contain emotion? Justice is one of the most emotionally loaded concepts we have, apart from actual emotions.

    Justice is the biggest overlap between white and red, and also the Boros' greatest internal conflict. Justice for red is internal, red bases justice on what feels right (emotion), while white bases justice on the law (order). These two perspectives clash regularly (as they do in real life) within the Boros.

    Justice is less of a good fit for the other colours. Blue doesn't really care for justice either way and infact one of it's biggest internal conflicts is morality. Green believes in a right and wrong but interestingly not in justice itself. And for black there is no justice. If you are being treated bad, then you either pull yourself up by yourself or you don't. In fact I'd go so far and say justice is an antithesis to pragmatism, because at its core it deliberately does not necessarily align with what's convenient or useful, but what is just.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Halvar, God of Battle | Sword of the Realms
    Quote from Urabrask »
    With him being the white on I wonder how the rest will turn out. We know the names of two other with Reidane Goddess of Justice
    and Alrund God of Wisdom. Alrund could be blue, but what other color would justice fit, if not white or blue? With the angels also being in black, maybe she is the black god. Or Alrund is green and she is the blue one, with a Loki in black and a Thor in red. I uploaded the two miniatures images we got of them, which we got back in october.

    It's funny, because when we had the names, I assumed we'd get a cycle of enemy coloured gods, as justice overlaps red and white and wisdom overlaps green and blue.

    Ah well. God of Justice is likely going to be red. Unless justice is a thing that's white-black on this world because the valkyries also appear to be white-black aligned on Kaldheim. Then the god would be black? Which is really weird because black doesn't really care much about justice philosophically. (Sure you could wrangle some sort of exlanation into it, but I feel like gods, being the embodiment of mana/magic, should be a bit more representative of the core of a colour. Ah well, we'll see.)
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Mothership 12/17— Set and Theme Booster Exclusives
    Quote from 5ColorsEDH »
    Quote from Flisch »
    Exclusive cards to set boosters? Weren't we told when set boosters were introduced that they wouldn't replace draft boosters, and it's really just an alternate way of "cracking a booster experience" but now, if you want one of these cards, you're basically forced to care about and buy set boosters? (Or buy singles I suppose.)

    I really didn't expect wizards to go back on that after a single set, wow.


    They are Theme Booster card different product that Draft and Set Boosters

    Did you read the article? These cards show up in theme and set boosters.

    Also, I didn't even know theme boosters had unique cards as well. This is absolutely stupid.
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  • posted a message on [KHM] Mothership 12/17— Set and Theme Booster Exclusives
    Exclusive cards to set boosters? Weren't we told when set boosters were introduced that they wouldn't replace draft boosters, and it's really just an alternate way of "cracking a booster experience" but now, if you want one of these cards, you're basically forced to care about and buy set boosters? (Or buy singles I suppose.)

    I really didn't expect wizards to go back on that after a single set, wow.
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