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  • posted a message on ELD- Eldraine story and plane
    Afaik it was also confirmed Will is in Thrones of Eldraine.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
    Random thought, but does anyone else get the feeling that Glint-Horn Buccaneer is from Dominaria? The coat matches Hurloon minotaurs and there is no record of native minotaurs on Ixalan (which isn't to say there are none, we only visited one continent in full and got a passing visit to a second).

    The decoration on his horns and the fact that he lives on a ship might even be a reference to Tarngarth.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Gargos, Vicious Warden and Cavalier of Squall (storms?)
    Quote from Flisch »
    Isn't it weird how much tribal we got in Modern Horizons and now M20? I would think it's because the upcoming set has a big tribal component, but Modern Masters doesn't even affect that, so... Is it just some new approach to make the game more beginner-friendly? I'm not even sure if I like it or not, and this coems from someone who loves tribal. It's just so strange.
    If you read mark Rosewater's blog, most requests are for tribal cards. Its simply filling requests that aren't problematic. The hydra, for example, functions quite well as a hydra lord, heroic lord, or generic beat stick.

    I mean I know that. But tribal was always popular. It just feels like this is so much at once, rather than a steady increase.

    Again, not complaining, but musing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Gargos, Vicious Warden and Cavalier of Squall (storms?)
    Isn't it weird how much tribal we got in Modern Horizons and now M20? I would think it's because the upcoming set has a big tribal component, but Modern Masters doesn't even affect that, so... Is it just some new approach to make the game more beginner-friendly? I'm not even sure if I like it or not, and this coems from someone who loves tribal. It's just so strange.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Flavor and Story
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    Honestly, why they thought the word ichor wouldn't make people come to the wrong conclusions is beyond me.

    Just like calling Ugin "the Ineffable" means he has a connection to Yawgmoth, no? ;P

    Not really the same. "The Ineffable" has never appeared on a card and as such does not carry the weight of the word ichor, which has never appeared in a card name not related to the phyrexians. (With the possible exception of Ichor Slick, but that might still be some remnants of the phyrexians on Dominaria.)

    Plus, people speculate about phyrexians being anywhere, because that's kinda an important plot point. Mirrodin has turned out to be infected with the phyrexians all along and the phyrexians are actively trying to spread to other worlds. Another plane being corrupted by the phyrexians isn't unthinkable and in fact somewhat expected.

    Nobody expects the "true identity" of Yawgmoth to be revealed, because we already know his identity, so nobody is really confused about the "Ineffable" title. It's just that some people are grumpy Yawgmoth now has to share his title.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Flavor and Story
    Honestly, why they thought the word ichor wouldn't make people come to the wrong conclusions is beyond me.
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  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
    Quote from Leaf »
    Chandra originally had no backstory and wore the iconic armor she always does.
    Later on revealed she hailed from an unknown and nameless plane that wasn't Regatha.
    Chandra's pyromancy abilities caused soldiers to burn down her village and family.
    Chandra fled to Regatha and studied with the monks at Keral Keep Monastery.
    She trained with Mother Luti at the monastery.
    Chandra's home plane was later revealed to be Indian Aetherpunk world of Kaladesh, she stuck out like a sore thumb since both parents are Indian.
    Also revealed later was that she was to be executed before escaping to Regatha.
    Also revealed later was that Chandra's mother is actually alive.
    Chandra and Gideon had a romantic relationship.
    Revealed later that Mother Luti was actually Jaya Ballard.
    Revealed later that Gideon instead saw Chandra as a sibling than a romantic partner.
    Now revealed she at some point in her life used a 'regulator' for her magic before becoming her adult self, but what happened to the regulator is unknown as it doesn't appear on her normal armor.
    Now revealed she is actually a very prodigious summoner of elementals in addition to her known pyromancy rather than just a pyromancer who only shoots gouts of flames, however these summoning talents are neglected prior to this in her lore.

    Chandra's backstory is several layers of Retroactive Continuity or "retconning" as its also known. Where they revised the backstory over and over and over. She gives the formerly amnesiac Jace a run for his money.

    Most of these are contrived, but not retcons. Her mother surviving and mother Luti revealed as Jaya Ballard certainly made the story feel like a cheap script, but again that doesn't make it a retcon.

    Chandra's homeplane is an interesting story as her name pretty heavily implies an indian setting, but her character was made several years before Kaladesh (and Regatha) was thought up, which is why her appearance (in terms of clothing at least) seems to clash with her origins. If she had been made after the fact, then her design would reflect that, as it does with virtually every planeswalker who is introduced alongside their homeplane, like Saheeli, Huatli, Samut etc. The same problem applies to Gideon as well.
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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    I mean, we saw stuff like that coming from a mile away. Remember the article where they annoucned that Magic will play fast and loose with continuity if it makes for a better story? Here we see the results of such an approach.

    Personally I don't believe it leads to a better story, but whatever.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
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    Looking forward to more Regatha. Hopefully they used some of their creative resources they didn't have to spend on the Guilds block to flesh out Regatha a little. From all the new origins planes, it was awfully... nowhere? Like sure the plane has rugged mountain shard thingies and a red-aligned pyromancer monastery, but other than that we know nothing about it.


    Same, it was in a weird spot with barely any world building and yet being the adopted home of a current main character and a last major character. Vryn is similar but it being Jaces home is still new-er info next to Regatha which has been around almost as long as Chandra.

    Vryn also got some world building for it. Jace's entire origins story took place on Vryn with the last couple lines dealing with him ending up on Ravnica, his first planeswalk plane. The same pattern repeats for Gideon and Chandra as well, which is why Ravnica, Bant and Regatha got little more than namedrops in Origins, which isn't so bad for Ravnica and Bant, as we know about them and can fill in the blanks, but it didn't work out for Regatha.
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  • posted a message on M20-Flavor and Story
    Looking forward to more Regatha. Hopefully they used some of their creative resources they didn't have to spend on the Guilds block to flesh out Regatha a little. From all the new origins planes, it was awfully... nowhere? Like sure the plane has rugged mountain shard thingies and a red-aligned pyromancer monastery, but other than that we know nothing about it.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Core 2020 Three Chandras
    Okay, I just realized the rarity does not match the chronological order of her backstory. God, this is going to be so confusing to people.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Core 2020 Three Chandras
    So I was right, M2020 will revolve around Chandra growing up on Regatha. Kinda like this new approach. Gives the coresets much needed identity while also revealing stuff about Magic's past without having to halt story progress for one set.

    Not entirely sure I'm into multiple cards for a single walker per set thing, but whatever.

    Also:
    "Chandra, Awakened Inferno deals X damage to target creature or planeswalker. If a permanent dealt damage this way would die this turn, exile it instead."
    Does this mean the second sentence only applies to creatures, or can planeswalkers die as well? I don't think they've ever used die for planeswalkers.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mox Tantalite is bad, and we can do better.
    Mox Marble 0 mana
    Artifact
    tap symbol : Add one mana of any colour. Activate this ability only if you cast a nonartifact spell this turn.

    Too broken with storm?
    Posted in: Custom Card Creation
  • posted a message on Let's talk about MtG's storytelling...
    I'm not sure if surveys are all that problematic (though Magic seems to conflate popularity for power levels and popularity for lore reasons quite a lot.)

    But I do have the feeling that Marketing meddles more with the lore of the game than is good for it. When you treat your characters like brands, rather than characters, it means you can't treat them like characters anymore. They won't have (compelling) arcs, they can't be killed off if the plot calls for it and so on and so forth. We see the same issue with planes. Ever since... New Phyrexia or so, planes have remained fully static. There's no evolution happening, no history, no rise and fall of empires and such. Planes and characters in Magic have become Disney World rides and mascots and the story is off worse for it. You don't need to go full Game of Thrones on your story of course, but a modicum of consistency and consequences would be healthy for the Magic story.

    Of course it doesn't help that many players of Magic aren't even into having a living breathing narrative. How often have you heard a post along the lines of "no, they ruined my favourite plane" or "no, they killed off my favourite character, I'll quit magic forever"? I think people fall into three categories: Those who don't care about the lore at all, those who care about the setting of Magic as a whole and those who latch onto individual characters (and sometimes planes). The second and third category are at odds with one another, because the former want change as the setting as a whole is the actor with their own arc, while the latter don't want change or if they do want change then only for planes and characters they don't care about. I'm personally in the second camp, I care for the setting as a whole the most and don't mind if one of my favourite characters kicks the bucket as long as they served a purpose for the overarching story (unlike Rhonas, who died twice in a really lame way...) but I also understand I'm in the minority here.

    Unfortunately, you can't cater to both people. There's no real compromise to be had. You can't even alternate between the two each set, because the important bit for those who want to see the setting evolve is changes across multiple sets, not internally contained ones, which would affect recurring characters.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Sign-ups? A while ago (Tarkir) Wizards switched from books to online stories, to have everything in one place and flavour people didn't have to chase stuff down and juggle multiple sources. And now we have books, online stories and E-Mail sign-ups? Why does Wizards keep repeating the same mistakes all over?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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