MTG Salvation

I think we are ready for this thread. We can always edit if we get a last minute gem. Please post your cube size/style and immediate includes/tests/cards you're watching from WAR. Also notes from your test runs go here.

I run a 450 unpowered.

Including
God-Eternal Kefnet in for Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin in for War-Name Aspirant
Domri, Anarch of Bolas in for Xenagos, the Reveler
Liliana's Triumph in for Chainer's Edict

Will Test
Finale of Glory in for Entreat the Angels
God-Eternal Oketra in for Thalia's Lancers
God-Eternal Bontuin for Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Ilharg, The Raze-Boar in for Bosh, Iron Golem
Finale of Devastation in for Curse of Predation

Will Watch
Finale of Eternity
Vivien's Arkbow
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer

The power level of this set is extremely high and with that we have quite a few cube contenders. Unfortunately they are all mythics or legendary rares continuing the trend of cubes skewing towards the same. Not a good set for the wallet, but a very strong set in terms of the number of contributions this set will offer for most cubes.

Krasis I think, but I'm not buying one for a long while. Definitely not worth over $10.00 to me.

I think this is comparable to Thalia's Lancers. This has a better body and is a value engine for creature heavy decks. Lancers gives you immediate value rather than delayed value though which is a big deal...wouldn't cut any of the angels for this.

Superfriends players everywhere are like

I really hate how much these borrow from the Zenith cycle....definitely feels like they were the baseline for all of these and they just made minor alterations in cost/effect to up the power level and dropped the shuffle into your library clause replacing it with some massively powerful effect if you cast this for a whopping 12 mana or more.

Only the red one is completely different. The black one has some notable differences as well but has some similarities to BSZ. The rest are nearly carbon copies if you disregard the generally unobtainable ultimate modes:
White just shaved off a colored mana symbol and added vigilance to the tokens.
Blue shaved off a colored mana symbol.
Green added a colored symbol, but also lets you pull the creature from your graveyard.

I think the White one has the best shot at being viable in cube. Many green decks are able to deal with the extra cost in order to pull a given creature from any zone except exile....remains to be seen if the flexibility will be worth the cost here. Could be.

This looks super durdly to me. I already think some of the colorless CC-specific "sweepers" Ratchet Bomb, Powder Keg, and Engineered Explosives are pretty lackluster more often than not. This gets the upside of being a land, but misses tokens which is what I think these type of cards are generally best against since X being 0 and hitting even one token (but often more) can be decent value for 2. I'm sure the value of these cards goes up a fair bit in a powered/fast-mana cube since they hit moxen though.

This is pushed so hard. Great tempo play regardless based on just the pushed stats and flying alone and I can think of quite a few decks I would happily run this in. I mean off the top of my head
Chart a Course....you're probably drawing 4 and discarding 1 for 2U
Edit: Removed ....didn't RTFC.
Fiery Confluence is 12 to the face (Or a wrath + damage) for 2RRRR
Fractured Identity for 3 with a copy in hand? Gross.

How does this interact with miracles like entreat or bonfire?

I value the 3rd point of toughness over the 3rd point of power in these token creators and Krenko just gets more resilient so I think I'll run the Garrison and Krenko.

I also think Domri is the new best Gruul walker, but its close with Xenagos, the Reveler and Sarkhan Vol.

Very neat and fun! I'd like to enter for the Eternal Witness promo.

I run caps (3 per color and colorless and 1 per guild at 450 unpowered) and still the majority of these walkers are too weak to make the cut. Gideon Blackblade, Domri, Anarch of Bolas and maybe Liliana, Dreadhorde General will likely get some testing. Of all of these I think only Domri is the only one likely to stick around since he fits ramp/aggro/and has built in removal--also he isn't 4CC, thank heavens.

Gideon says up to one other target creature....can't target itself with the +1 ability.

This is extremely wierd in blue. As it is either 3U Create a 3/3 black zombie army token or 3U put three +1/+1 counters on your black zombie army token...neither of which strikes me as blue.

This card is bad. You lose evasion, you can't go wide, and it doesn't have (as much) Skullclamp synergy since once you add the first +1/+1 counter the combo won't work. I would cube a slightly nerfed bitterblossom, but this is not slightly, not at all.

At 6 mana this really needs to make more than a single zombie token with no abilities. I like that it keeps to the theme of Liliana being a "symmetrical" PW but not really though....Barter in Blood, but I draw cards off of mine. The ultimate seems like a white effect (Cataclysm) to me--even if it one-sided--which is really disappointing. This might compete with five mana Liliana if only due to the card draw but five mana Liliana also gives you a backup plan for reanimator so its probably still better...