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  • posted a message on most expensive card ever?
    Quote from Uber_Mexico
    I don't understand. If the market value is 20$, then it is not worth a dollar, it is worth 20. Do you still view cards as pieces of cardboard? Value is created by demand, if enough people want a specific piece of cardboard, you can't logically claim that it's the same as every other piece of cardboard. Value is determined by the buyer, not the value of the materials, otherwise cars would cost a few thousand dollars.



    It’s a hypothetical. What I am saying is, is there a card to you that was deemed worth a dollar (or around) that you would personally pay or think is worth 20 $

    If you can word it better then I can so people will understand what im getting at in MTG lingo Ill haply edit my post lol Grin
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on most expensive card ever?
    From the very first printed card to now. What’s the most expensive Magic card ever printer?

    Is there a card that is worth less then a dollar you would pay more then 20$ for? (if the market value was 20$)
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Now batting... #1... [NYC Dark Knights]!!!
    What do people get form clans? (not a flame just kinda new to all this)
    Posted in: Retired Clan Threads
  • posted a message on [SHA] Announcing... Shadowmoor
    I think this set will be full of fruits, and the main (possible a planeswalker) will be a giant strawberry or an apple. Turn the logo upside down and you will see what I'm talking about. :p


    But for real. I don’t see a "death theme" at all. If you look at the bars in the middle it can be a reflection of accent gods form Grease or Rome. But I can’t click on the link right now to see if I’m missing anything else prevalent to it. Slant
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on V3 vs V2
    I don’t know if this has been addressed be4 or not. Once v3 is live what happens to v2? Will the cards we bought on v2 transfer over?
    Posted in: Other Formats
  • posted a message on Must read if you have/want kids or are in school now.
    Quote from Infinitive
    Your attempts to turn this into a local anti-presidental candidate campaign spot are unwelcome; if you're interested in attaching that sort of thing, please do so in the Debate forum, where it's supposed to be.


    1. Did you check out the link? I did not write this article.
    2. I happen to think Hillary is the best person for the job right now (if Gore stays out of it).
    3. You are the one turning this into a debate. I just thought it could get some wheels turning in some people heads.

    So I greatly think you misunderstood the meaning of this article and flipped it into something it was not meant to be. But thanks for your input none the less. Your argument on it from your point of view (for the most part) be it also exaggerations were a good one's *cheers*
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on Block ?
    cool thanks mate!
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Block ?
    How often are the edition’s released?

    If someone could break down the difference in edition’s and what ever they call the ones like Lorwyn and Timesprial that would awesome.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Block ?
    10ed will rotate out the same time Lorwyn/morning does right?
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Smoking
    I can tell you this. Using any of the following:
    "I smoke for the buzz, ill quit when I don’t get the buzz anymore"
    "I don’t inhale"
    "I like the taste"
    "I just want to try it; I’m not going to get addicted"
    "i do it to be social"

    Well by the time you are at the "ok now its time to stop be4 I'm addicted" Its 2 late. Your hooked.
    Posted in: Talk and Entertainment
  • posted a message on Dude...I just saw a Magic commercial on TV.
    Mtg has some on youtube. They look like they were made for adult swim.
    http://youtube.com/user/wizardsmtg
    they are all titled "Lorwyn:______"
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Must read if you have/want kids or are in school now.
    (hope this is in the right place) **EDIT** looks like it should go to the debate forum**

    http://boortz.com/nuze/200710/10082007.html#marx

    AN ESSENTIAL STEP IN SAVING AMERICA

    About 159 years ago someone named Karl Marx sat down to put his dream to words; his dream of a communist state that was to become a worker's paradise. Somehow it didn't work out all that well, but it certainly wasn't for a lack of effort. Tens of millions of people died in Russia, China and elsewhere to show what an incredibly bad idea Marx had.

    It's ironic to me that the countries who suffered under the rule of Marx' worker's paradise have largely rejected so many of the tenants set forth in his Communist Manifesto, while the one country that held communism at bay for over 70 years and eventually destroyed it still embraces many of those ideas.


    We've gone through this before, but once again (hey, there might be new Nuze readers!) let me tell you of just two of the essential elements of a communist society as set forth in Marx's work:
    1. A progressive graduated income tax.


    2. Government education of the children.
    Countries across Europe, especially former communist countries, are moving from a progressive income tax to either consumption taxes or a flat tax. Ever heard of the Irish Miracle? And across Europe more and more people are being allowed the freedom to choose where their children shall be educated. They choose the school, the tax money follows. And yes, more and more this is including private schools.


    I want you to focus your attention for a moment on a quote by C.S. Lewis that someone sent to me over the weekend. Read it .. perhaps a few times .. and then try to tell me with a straight face that C.S. Lewis, who took the eternal celestial dirt nap 44 years ago, wasn't talking about government education in 21st Century America:
    "What I want to fix your attention on is the vast overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how 'democracy' (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient dictatorships, and by the same methods? The basic proposal of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' Children who are fit to proceed may be artificially kept back, because the others would get a trauma by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's [of the same age] attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT. We may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when 'I'm as good as you' has fully had its way. All incentives to learn and all penalties for not learning will vanish. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway, the teachers -- or should I say nurses? -- will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men." C. S. Lewis


    Now don't you want to go back and read that again? I guess I read it 20 times over the weekend ... just amazed at how well a man who has been dead for so long has perfectly nailed our current system of government education and what it is doing to our children. And referring to government school teachers as nurses? Brilliant! Absolutely effing brilliant! (Excuse me, I got carried away there for a bit.)


    This country is in trouble. No, I'm not talking about the threat from outside – the biggest element of which would be Islamic radicalism. I'm talking about the threat from inside. The men who marched in bare feet wrapped in rags over frozen ground in 1776 – leaving a trail of blood for the British to follow – would scarcely recognize us. They put their lives on the line for independence, far too many of us strive for dependence. They embraced freedom. We embrace security. The men of 1776 were extraordinary. We reject the extraordinary for the mundane.

    Our schools are turning out perfect little government subjects who have been taught that, somehow, it is bad to excel, but virtuous to simply fit in.


    Do you think the men and women of just two generations ago could ever imagine a school system where children aren't allowed to play tag because it involves chasing and unwanted touching? Of course you don't want to be touched! That makes you "it!"

    How about a school system that won't honor a valedictorian because other students might feel slighted or left out? Read again that sentence from C.S. Lewis where he says that the "nurses" are "far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching."


    We have schools now that grade with shapes instead of letters. "What did you get on your math test today dear?" "I got a square, mom!" In some schools teachers won't use a red pen to grade papers because red denotes errors or a bad grade, and they don't want the precious little students to get upset.

    All you have to do is look around you to see what a miserable failure our government schools are. A huge percentage of entering freshmen at state colleges and universities have to enroll in remedial courses in order to bring them up to college speed. In Georgia we have students who, thanks to rampant grade inflation, graduate from their high schools with better than a B average who can't handle freshman-level courses in college without first going through a remedial program.


    Our kids are being taught by the worst of the worst in their government schools. Check out the education school at most major universities. The freshmen who chose to pursue a degree in education come from the lowest level of the entering class; and those who go on to pursue a graduate degree in education come from the lowest ranks of their undergraduate class. This is how you get teachers sending home report cards that read "Johnny are learning to spell good."


    If we don't do something to break the grip of these government schools, and the teacher's unions that run them, we are going to lose this entire country to mediocrity. We are going to continue to churn out generations of mind-numbed government subjects who can readily identify the faces of the current pop culture, but who couldn't tell the vice-president from the speaker of the house if their iPods depended on it.


    The answer is competition. We need school choice. If you want to continue with taxing the stuffing out of the people to pay for education, fine. Just let the money follow the children, as they do in much of Europe. Let the parent investigate the choices and then make a decision as to where their child will go to school, public or private. Then send the money chasing after the child. Only competition will drive these schools to strive for excellence. The security of government mandated attendance will only foster laziness and complacency.


    Several weeks ago Hillary the Hideous loudly proclaimed that "privatization isn't the answer to anything." As I said at the time, this means that Hillary Rodham must think that government is the answer to everything ... including education.


    The teacher's unions heard her loud and clear. Last week the American Federation of Teachers endorsed Hillary. No surprise. Look for the National Education Association to fall in line.


    If we are to save our Republic we must create a generation or two of independent-thinking young adults who value freedom over security and who know the truth of what it was that made this country great. We will never get this from our government schools. Putting it bluntly, government schools and the teacher's unions that control them, and our politicians, are killing this country.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on Popular vote vs Electoral College.
    In the day and age we live in now do you still think the Electoral College is a valid system? Why/why not? Should we move on the popular vote and do away with the EC?
    DISCUSS…
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on I thought I knew something...
    I would not want to "unknow" anything. 1. Everything I know contributes to the person I am today. I would not change who I am for anything. 2. Knowledge is a powerful thing in any shape or form and should be cherished.
    Posted in: Talk and Entertainment
  • posted a message on LetsPlayMTG.com Good or Bad
    Quote from yzaragoza »
    Should we have Article Contest so users can write the articles?


    That’s a good idea.
    Maybe a beginners section with rules, deck list, combos and ideas.


    But you will need to set your self apart form the other 20billion sights on the internet.
    Posted in: Magic General
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