Quote from Solaran_XIf the patent is so long and complex, then how did a jury achieve a verdict against Samsung so quickly? Shouldn't they have been in deliberation much longer, to properly read and try to understand the patent?
Quote from SacredMesa"Takes two to tango" I don't hold any ideals of being completely "innocent" on this matter, I'm well aware of my stubbornness, again however when the work I put into my half of the debate and it is constantly dismissed based on experience without really even being discussed I feel "frustration and tired" are very appropriate means of describing it.
Quote from Highroller »That is something that should be investigated, and he should have an oversight committee hounding him. That is ****ing disgraceful.
Quote from Highroller »You can stop frothing at the mouth now. The rabid dog act impresses no one.
Quote from Highroller »Normally I don't like putting athletes on a pedestal. The fact that Tiger Woods made a public apology about something that was an entirely private matter, for instance, disgusted me.
Quote from highroller »Calm down.
Quote from HighrollerMy point is that saying that every single player dopes does not mean that going after Armstrong for doping becomes illegitimate. Never did I say that problem wasn't process,
never did I say that the USADA is either justified or unjustified in their actions.
Quote from highroller »It is not, however, justified to complain about an oversight committee doing its job by going after someone who broke the rules. That's what they're supposed to do.
Quote from dcartist »That makes no sense. Your statement assumes the committee already magically know Lance to be guilty before he is excessively investigated and harrassed.
Is it justified to complain about cops "doing their job" by relentlessly "showing unfair prejudice" harrassing and investigating people who are guilty?
Quote from SacredMesa »argued back that while I don't have the personal experience he does I can easily do my own research and look back at the very same history he lived through and come to a conclusion that is not only very valid but in many cases can be far more correct due to a lack of emotional connection that would grant me a far more non-bias point of view.
This seems to be a reoccuring thing in any debate we have is he always falls back into this same tired and frustrating arguement. Does this kind of arguement hold water or is it what I personally believe, IE his way or dismissing what I say to avoid having the debate if he doesn't like where it is going?
Quote from Captain_Morgan »Either of you are looking for a strategic advantage over the other, highly competitive and probably a familial trait. To make up for his lack of education he uses experience as a justification where as you are using your inexperience and research as the "superior."
Now, if you feel that the oversight committee in question is doing a generally terrible job of imposing fairness and integrity within a sport, that's a fair criticism. If you think they are showing unfair prejudice against Lance Armstrong, that is also a fair criticism.
It is not, however, justified to complain about an oversight committee doing its job by going after someone who broke the rules. That's what they're supposed to do.
Because Lance Armstrong is not merely an athlete, he's an icon.
Normally I don't like putting athletes on a pedestal. The fact that Tiger Woods made a public apology about something that was an entirely private matter, for instance, disgusted me.
But in this case, in the case that a man who is a hero and public icon would be revealed to have his successes in a sport achieved by cheating and lying? That is something that should be investigated, and he should have an oversight committee hounding him. That is ****ing disgraceful.
That is something that should be investigated, and he should have an oversight committee hounding him. That is ****ing disgraceful.
I'm telling him that his experience doesn't not negate the research and evidence I am able to present.
I'm not telling him he can't use experience, or that his experience is wrong.
I'm not trying to hinder or limit his ability to debate I'm trying to get him to understand that his experience doesn't "trump" everything else.
Quote from SacredMesaI think you are misunderstanding my stance when we come to this arguement. I'm not dismissing experience as useless or invalid simply pointing out that it doesn't invalidate research and also pointing out that research can actually provide a better perspective on a topic due to no emotional connection.
At no point did I or do I believe I have all the answers or know everything. I don't even have an issue with disagreeing to him and each of us having our own views. My issue is this belief that his experience negates any and all work I put into researching the history and present of the topic we are discussing.
Quote from DioThere's obviously something wrong with her being a *****, but why can't a woman be the dominant one in the relationship?