I second Chaos Wand feels really good. Gets broken if you're able to untap it. And goes infinite with Paradox Engine which in my opinion is one of the stupidest combos in the world.
Also nice list.
Never really took notice of Chaos Wand properly before. I have had it played against me, I think it did some work.
The Paradox Engine combo is pretty nice, 4 from artifacts and you should be able to cast all the instants and sorcery in opponents decks, however you are likely to hit a number of board wipes. It is a "may", so you just need to make sure you have a backup spell yourself to keep the engine going.
Also runs into the problem of hitting a counterspell effect which if nothing is on the stack, then you won;t be able to cast it.
I guess the trick is to keep using it when you get to untap and the spells are still on the stack, just to make sure there are more options available for certain cards. Things like copying spells, etc.
I'm Not Drawing Extra Cards, I Swear 3W
Enchantment
Shroud, indestructible
When ~ enters the battlefield, you may search your library for any number of plains cards and put them into your hand, then shuffle your library.
You may play with plains cards in your hand revealed. Those cards do not count towards your hand size.
When you discard a plains card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand.
But I get that you're trying to mitigate discarding cards in some way. I'm pretty sure I can come up with an infinite for this if they return to hand when discarded..
So many of the post and suggestions in this thread ultimately amount to "give white card draw" in some form or another. MaRo has reiterated again and again that that's simply not happening (outside of extremely niche, build-around cards that support existing white design space [e.g. equipment]).
Rehashing it is just wasting our time.
Well we know that's not true as there is Alms Collector, Armistice and even Dawn of Hope from the lastest set.
So it's not unreasonable at all to be talking about it and discussing good designs to make it fit within the white framework and mold.
So in the original post you say that Doubling Season et al can create auras on multiple permanents when in fact those cards do not do that. The way Estrid's ability is worded, when the token is created it is already targeting a single permanent. Any extra tokens created by the Doubling Season effects are still created targeting the same permanent. I didn't see this corrected anywhere else in the comments and just wanted to let you guys know. I still run the trio in my Estrid as mine is mostly token based, but if you're using them just to get extra Aura tokens from Estrid, they don't actually do what you're wanting them to.
OK, that makes sense now that I read it properly. You can still use Doubling Season for ultimate Estrid more easily and any other planeswalkers you might run.
Well, yes and no. Shirei can trigger once each turn for each of your creatures. Teshar can trigger once per spell. Typically, outside combos (and it seems unreasonable to talk about combos in a vacuum - at least to me vacuum refers to what happens in a typical situation, ignoring interaction from the oppeont - it is also why I think Marchesa is not as good in a vacuum - there are many 1 power creatures or historic spells. There are not that many creatures that etb with +1/+1 counters or ways to give them some and thus it is not quite common to get many such creatures), you will play the same card only once a turn. E.g. say that you play 3 cards each turn and have 2 opponents. Shirei can get 9 etb/leaves play triggers easily (3 at the end of each players turn). Teshar will get 6 effects. This is not even taking into account that in the next round, Shirei can get 18, while Teshar is stuck at 6. With more oppeonts, it is even more extreme.
It's a pretty complicated topic, and one probably left for it's own thread. But Marchesa does have 'dethrone' built into all your creatures, so you have a natural way of getting +1/+1 counters. Also the most notable feature of Marchesa is that board wipes are ineffective against you as the trigger of returning will happen regardless of Marchesa being in play or not, where as Shirei has to be in play still. This means that you can have Marchesa go to the graveyard as well and they will all return at end of turn.
So, and maybe I'm missing something obvious, but what exactly is the win condition in this deck?
Most of the time it's via Words of Wind making opponents pick up all their permanents, including lands. So you just lock them out and can finish them off with a few creatures, as they can't get out of it.
You don't even need infinite for this just a big mana and draw for a turn or two.
The other way is making all your enchantments creatures via Starfield of Nyx.
I've used Shalai, Voice of Plenty not only with infinite mana, but actually just with large amounts of mana to build up quite a formidable force with the +1/+1 counters.
Basically the deck just has inevitability once you are setup with draw and lock pieces.
Hi, welcome to the forums, and indeed back to Magic.
Pretty much the reason that you're so many cards over, is exactly what you've said you are trying to do too many things unfortunately. Trying to split your build between pillow fort AND stax AND creatures with auras AND draw good stuff AND control removal AND combo.
The hardest part about playing creature auras is making sure you consistently have targets for them, otherwise they become stuck in your hand.
Playing them on your entrantresses is pretty mediocre, as you're not really looking to attack with them as they are 0/2 type creatures to start with.
So you need to make sure you have a good threshold of creature targets. Sure you have Sun Titan and Bruna, Light of Alabaster, but actually getting Auras onto them would be much later in the game, so you might just be holding onto 3 auras in your hand waiting for a relevant creature to play them onto.
You just have to be wary of high risk. high reward as well with creature auras. Putting an Ancestral Mask on a Cold-Eyed Selkie can either take over a game, or just as likely get removed for a two-for-one.
That's why the most popular commanders for auras are the hexproof ones Sigarda, Host of Herons and Uril, the Miststalker.
I personally think that if you're looking to beef up creatures with auras, then you could take out the pillow fort and look to be protecting yourself (if necessary) with creatures. This will allow you to have enough creatures to make sure you have targets for your auras.
-OR-
You don't play creature themed auras at all, and simply go for control with pillow fort.
But my suggestion is that because you've said "play group wont allow or require me to build and ultra competitive deck.", I would try and get the creatures with auras as a theme, because you'll get more respect from the play group if you're looking to also win via combat. If your build is just stax and pillow fort, then you might find that you're the arch-enemy before games even start when you turn up in subsequent weeks. You have to understand that commander as a multiplayer game, is a lot about politics and perception. If you're the guy that just drags games out to over half an hour longer each time, then you'll be first to be picked on.
You should definitely included a Stony Silence, you can pick up a Modern Masters version for $8.
Just watch out that with Enchanted Evening making lands enchantments and Starfield of Nyx making enchantments creatures, that your lands will be instantly be removed as they are 0/0.
With the The Chain Veil you can can get infinite activation's if you put an Aura on The Chain Veil with Estrid [-1] and then you also are able to get at least 4 from other cards which have Auras on them, so realistically lands with enchantments on them like Wild Growth, etc.
Now it must be noted that, sure you can get infinite loyalty on Estrid, but actually this might not do anything as far as winning on the spot. It obviously sets you up nicely as you can ultimate her many times during the game to get back all your enchantments if they are removed.
Plus unless opponents have specific removal for planeswalker, they won't be able to kill her via attacking with creatures for as long as you have done that combo.
If you were able to produce more than 4 mana off untapping enchanted sources, then you can get infinite mana, which will potentially lead to a victory at the time.
The other obvious thing you might want to do if looking for some sort of The Chain Veil win, is to actually play more planeswalkers. So you can build them up to powerful ultimates in the same turn you are using Estrid to go infinite.
There are a lot of premium planeswalkers in Bant, but I'll list some of the ones that would fit your deck best I think, and they are maily based off their ultimates being able to close the game; Dovin Baan - the [-7] fits your theme perfectly Narset Transcendent - the [-9] normally makes opponents concede on the spot. Venser, the Sojourner - the [-8] is hard for your opponents to beat if the game goes much longer.
Thank you for your insight, Darrin! So, fetchlands are super important. Good to know. I assume that includes cards like Terramorphic Expanse or Evolving Wilds?
Umm, I personally don't play them, just because they are limited by basics and into play tapped. You might play them in a budgeted landfall deck, or a budgeted top of library matters, but otherwise they are not very good.
I should have made it clearer, I'm not comparing decks, or the abilities of the colors themselves, just the commanders ability in a vacuum.
Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker's ability is even greater in a vacuum I think. With a simple set up, Shirei gives you a ton of resources each turn (i.e. a sac outlet gives you all your etb/leave the battlefield triggers from creatures with 1 power or less every turn), while Teshar doubles your spells (by bringing something back if it was historic).
The reason why Teshar is the best is that it's an ability that can be triggered any number of times in a turn, from many to infinite. Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker and Marchesa, the Black Rose, although are excellent because they are able to stretch out value on each players turns, are still limited that they can only trigger once each time.
So putting aside anything to do with how the engines work i.e. "+1/+1 counters" or "creatures with power 1" or "creatures with converted cost 3 or less", it's simply based on the ability to string the triggers together, which Teshar has unlimited potential.
I wanted to make a specialized Aminatou, the Fateshifter "top cards of library" focused build. I also put some stipulations on myself as well.
I wanted to make sure that people wouldn't just think that it was better to run Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign as the commander for the particular build I ended up with, or for that matter Narset, Enlightened Master.
In the end I've constructed quite the spicy build.
The idea is to transform your "cheap to cast" spells into some of the best creatures ever to be printed in Magic. The deck is designed to have only a select number of non-top end creatures, but mostly it has a lot of non-creature ways of producing token creatures. These are mainly with planeswalker abilities.
The token creatures can be used to setup a big Synthetic Destiny or Mass Polymorph.
Planeswalkers also leading to some synergies with Aminatou as well, which you can read in my other primers.
There is also Divine Visitation to make any token creatures into 4/4 Angels instead. Make sure to spot the easter-eggs in the picture below to the original Divine Visitation art
There are a number of different cards and methods that look to put your top-end cards into play without paying their mana cost and I am happy to explain them in the card choices section below.
Right so the main theme is to try and "cheat" as many permanents into play, mostly from working off the top of your library.
There are cards that allow you to do this with; Proteus Staff, Jalira, Master Polymorphist, Synthetic Destiny, Mass Polymorph.
Because these cards require creatures to already be in play, we are using a lot of non-creature cards that generate creatures, so that we can avoid having to play too many small-to-mid sized creatures, so that the effectiveness of these cards is a lot better.
There are also a number of manifest cards, that you can use to setup your top of library so that you can use Aminatou [-1] on the manifested card to return to play face-up.
These are; Soul Summons, Reality Shift, Mastery of the Unseen, Primordial Mist.
Manifesting cards is also another way of producing creatures from non-creature sources, so you can still use the transform cards on them, if you've not setup something relevant to turn face-up in the first place.
Divine Visitation can be used to make all the token creatures you generate into much more solid bodies in 4/4 flying Angels. Normally the tokens are like between 1/1 and 2/2 ground creatures, so the upgrade is perfect for protecting your planeswalkers as well as producing an army of threats.
There are some "mid-range" creatures, but these have a lot of synergy with the deck. Kaho, Minamo Historian gives you access to a number of manipulation cards, you can Synthetic Destiny, which is an instant. You can also get Vampiric Tutor to specially setup the top of your library with whatever card you want.
Zur the Enchanter can get a number of key enchantments, token generators, manifest in Mastery of the Unseen, and even Necromancy in case you wanted to return one of your premium creatures back from graveyard.
With Aminatou [+1] you can put cards back ontop of your library that you are looking to get into play for no cost. Often drawing large mana costing creatures early on before you have mana is bad in decks, but this deck is designed to reward you for drawing your bug creatures early, in that you can use a number of cards to get them into play.
The deck plays a lot of top of library manipulation that you can see in my other builds, as this is important to your overall goal.
I have moved on from this deck to something 4 color and hopefully that can make even more use out of the Sanctum we shall see, it seems rather devious and needed R to truly get off the ground.
If Jeskai is part of your color pie then I recommend Wild Research as a spicy enchantment fuel card. If you can back this up with Starfield of Nyx, then you get to search for any enchantment and actually hope it gets discarded.
Why would nissa be a marquee reanimation commander? Surely you mean chainer or karador or Alesha or teneb...
Reanimation is the wrong term I used, I mean graveyard as a resource (I edited the post to reflect this). Glissa (you had me confused with the Nissa :P) is another commander that can return specifically artifacts. Teshar is great to combine with artifacts because of Salvage Scout and Restoration Specialist, along with the other creatures that with converted mana cost 3 or less that return artifacts from graveyard.
The reason Alesha, Karador, Teneb are nowhere near as potent as Teshar, is that they are restricted to one activation a turn, even if they do different things. Chainer, Dementia Master is basically restricted by mana needed, where as Teshar can trigger for much cheaper interaction.
I have absolutely no problem in claiming Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle reins supreme in being able to use your graveyard as a resource, just because you get to trigger it multiple times in a turn, if not infinite.
I feel like you are blinded by a recent deck if you actually feel Teshar reins supreme at this, I wouldn't pick out Alesha or Karador myself either but I would pick out those colors before I would pick out a Mono-W deck.
Because the important part about GY stuff is not the actual engine you choose because there are so many of them it is how you get the cards there in the first place and Mono-W is by far the most inefficient at doing that.
I should have made it clearer, I'm not comparing decks, or the abilities of the colors themselves, just the commanders ability in a vacuum.
So I'm not saying that a Karador deck is worse than a Teshar deck or vice versa. At the end of the day, Karador has access to Survival of the Fittest and Living Death, etc.
I'm just saying comparing abilities of Teshar to any other graveyard a resource commander, Teshar is the best.
The Paradox Engine combo is pretty nice, 4 from artifacts and you should be able to cast all the instants and sorcery in opponents decks, however you are likely to hit a number of board wipes. It is a "may", so you just need to make sure you have a backup spell yourself to keep the engine going.
Also runs into the problem of hitting a counterspell effect which if nothing is on the stack, then you won;t be able to cast it.
I guess the trick is to keep using it when you get to untap and the spells are still on the stack, just to make sure there are more options available for certain cards. Things like copying spells, etc.
I think I'd prefer it in a deck that has some ability to search through your opponents library to scope out what is going on. Things like Thada Adel, Acquisitor, Rootwater Thief, Sphinx Ambassador, Bribery, Acquire, Knowledge Exploitation.
But I get that you're trying to mitigate discarding cards in some way. I'm pretty sure I can come up with an infinite for this if they return to hand when discarded..
So it's not unreasonable at all to be talking about it and discussing good designs to make it fit within the white framework and mold.
Post your list sometime if you get time.
It's a pretty complicated topic, and one probably left for it's own thread. But Marchesa does have 'dethrone' built into all your creatures, so you have a natural way of getting +1/+1 counters. Also the most notable feature of Marchesa is that board wipes are ineffective against you as the trigger of returning will happen regardless of Marchesa being in play or not, where as Shirei has to be in play still. This means that you can have Marchesa go to the graveyard as well and they will all return at end of turn.
You don't even need infinite for this just a big mana and draw for a turn or two.
The other way is making all your enchantments creatures via Starfield of Nyx.
I've used Shalai, Voice of Plenty not only with infinite mana, but actually just with large amounts of mana to build up quite a formidable force with the +1/+1 counters.
Basically the deck just has inevitability once you are setup with draw and lock pieces.
Pretty much the reason that you're so many cards over, is exactly what you've said you are trying to do too many things unfortunately. Trying to split your build between pillow fort AND stax AND creatures with auras AND draw good stuff AND control removal AND combo.
The hardest part about playing creature auras is making sure you consistently have targets for them, otherwise they become stuck in your hand.
Playing them on your entrantresses is pretty mediocre, as you're not really looking to attack with them as they are 0/2 type creatures to start with.
So you need to make sure you have a good threshold of creature targets. Sure you have Sun Titan and Bruna, Light of Alabaster, but actually getting Auras onto them would be much later in the game, so you might just be holding onto 3 auras in your hand waiting for a relevant creature to play them onto.
You just have to be wary of high risk. high reward as well with creature auras. Putting an Ancestral Mask on a Cold-Eyed Selkie can either take over a game, or just as likely get removed for a two-for-one.
That's why the most popular commanders for auras are the hexproof ones Sigarda, Host of Herons and Uril, the Miststalker.
I personally think that if you're looking to beef up creatures with auras, then you could take out the pillow fort and look to be protecting yourself (if necessary) with creatures. This will allow you to have enough creatures to make sure you have targets for your auras.
-OR-
You don't play creature themed auras at all, and simply go for control with pillow fort.
But my suggestion is that because you've said "play group wont allow or require me to build and ultra competitive deck.", I would try and get the creatures with auras as a theme, because you'll get more respect from the play group if you're looking to also win via combat. If your build is just stax and pillow fort, then you might find that you're the arch-enemy before games even start when you turn up in subsequent weeks. You have to understand that commander as a multiplayer game, is a lot about politics and perception. If you're the guy that just drags games out to over half an hour longer each time, then you'll be first to be picked on.
You should definitely included a Stony Silence, you can pick up a Modern Masters version for $8.
Just watch out that with Enchanted Evening making lands enchantments and Starfield of Nyx making enchantments creatures, that your lands will be instantly be removed as they are 0/0.
With the The Chain Veil you can can get infinite activation's if you put an Aura on The Chain Veil with Estrid [-1] and then you also are able to get at least 4 from other cards which have Auras on them, so realistically lands with enchantments on them like Wild Growth, etc.
Now it must be noted that, sure you can get infinite loyalty on Estrid, but actually this might not do anything as far as winning on the spot. It obviously sets you up nicely as you can ultimate her many times during the game to get back all your enchantments if they are removed.
Plus unless opponents have specific removal for planeswalker, they won't be able to kill her via attacking with creatures for as long as you have done that combo.
If you were able to produce more than 4 mana off untapping enchanted sources, then you can get infinite mana, which will potentially lead to a victory at the time.
The other obvious thing you might want to do if looking for some sort of The Chain Veil win, is to actually play more planeswalkers. So you can build them up to powerful ultimates in the same turn you are using Estrid to go infinite.
There are a lot of premium planeswalkers in Bant, but I'll list some of the ones that would fit your deck best I think, and they are maily based off their ultimates being able to close the game;
Dovin Baan - the [-7] fits your theme perfectly
Narset Transcendent - the [-9] normally makes opponents concede on the spot.
Venser, the Sojourner - the [-8] is hard for your opponents to beat if the game goes much longer.
So putting aside anything to do with how the engines work i.e. "+1/+1 counters" or "creatures with power 1" or "creatures with converted cost 3 or less", it's simply based on the ability to string the triggers together, which Teshar has unlimited potential.
Muldrotha, the Gravetide is a beast, but often I'll win games before they can setup properly.
Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is another interesting "unlimited" graveyard recursion commander.
I wanted to make sure that people wouldn't just think that it was better to run Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign as the commander for the particular build I ended up with, or for that matter Narset, Enlightened Master.
In the end I've constructed quite the spicy build.
As I was researching cards, a couple really stood out to me as fun to build around; Synthetic Destiny and Mass Polymorph.
The idea is to transform your "cheap to cast" spells into some of the best creatures ever to be printed in Magic. The deck is designed to have only a select number of non-top end creatures, but mostly it has a lot of non-creature ways of producing token creatures. These are mainly with planeswalker abilities.
The token creatures can be used to setup a big Synthetic Destiny or Mass Polymorph.
Planeswalkers also leading to some synergies with Aminatou as well, which you can read in my other primers.
There is also Divine Visitation to make any token creatures into 4/4 Angels instead. Make sure to spot the easter-eggs in the picture below to the original Divine Visitation art
There are a number of different cards and methods that look to put your top-end cards into play without paying their mana cost and I am happy to explain them in the card choices section below.
Right so the main theme is to try and "cheat" as many permanents into play, mostly from working off the top of your library.
There are cards that allow you to do this with; Proteus Staff, Jalira, Master Polymorphist, Synthetic Destiny, Mass Polymorph.
Because these cards require creatures to already be in play, we are using a lot of non-creature cards that generate creatures, so that we can avoid having to play too many small-to-mid sized creatures, so that the effectiveness of these cards is a lot better.
Most of the token creature generators are in the form of planeswalkers; Jace, Cunning Castaway, Karn, Scion of Urza, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Sorin, Solemn Visitor, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Elspeth Tirel, Elspeth, Sun's Champion.
There is also some other enchantments and creatures that do this with; Bitterblossom, Hidden Stockpile, Oath of Gideon, Sacred Mesa, Faerie Artisans.
There are also a number of manifest cards, that you can use to setup your top of library so that you can use Aminatou [-1] on the manifested card to return to play face-up.
These are; Soul Summons, Reality Shift, Mastery of the Unseen, Primordial Mist.
Manifesting cards is also another way of producing creatures from non-creature sources, so you can still use the transform cards on them, if you've not setup something relevant to turn face-up in the first place.
Divine Visitation can be used to make all the token creatures you generate into much more solid bodies in 4/4 flying Angels. Normally the tokens are like between 1/1 and 2/2 ground creatures, so the upgrade is perfect for protecting your planeswalkers as well as producing an army of threats.
The creatures in the deck represent some of the best that have ever been printed for sheer power; Doom Whisperer, Sun Titan, Consecrated Sphinx, Medomai the Ageless, Emeria Shepherd, Ashen Rider, Tidespout Tyrant, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur.
There are some "mid-range" creatures, but these have a lot of synergy with the deck.
Kaho, Minamo Historian gives you access to a number of manipulation cards, you can Synthetic Destiny, which is an instant. You can also get Vampiric Tutor to specially setup the top of your library with whatever card you want.
Zur the Enchanter can get a number of key enchantments, token generators, manifest in Mastery of the Unseen, and even Necromancy in case you wanted to return one of your premium creatures back from graveyard.
With Aminatou [+1] you can put cards back ontop of your library that you are looking to get into play for no cost. Often drawing large mana costing creatures early on before you have mana is bad in decks, but this deck is designed to reward you for drawing your bug creatures early, in that you can use a number of cards to get them into play.
The deck plays a lot of top of library manipulation that you can see in my other builds, as this is important to your overall goal.
There are still some infinite's you can get through Felidar Guardian, Oath of Teferi and The Chain Veil, but this deck has a lot less focus on these, and looks to overwhelm your opponents with hay makers, like Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Tidespout Tyrant, and a bevvy of other game warping creatures.
1 Aminatou, the Fateshifter
Creatures
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Kaho, Minamo Historian
1 Zur the Enchanter
1 Felidar Guardian
1 Doom Whisperer
1 Sun Titan
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Medomai the Ageless
1 Emeria Shepherd
1 Ashen Rider
1 Tidespout Tyrant
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded
1 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
Flash Combo
1 Flash
1 Academy Rector
1 Arena Rector
Planeswalkers
1 Jace, Cunning Castaway
1 Karn, Scion of Urza
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Liliana, Death's Majesty
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Liliana Vess
Token generators
1 Bitterblossom
1 Hidden Stockpile
1 Oath of Gideon
1 Sacred Mesa
1 Faerie Artisans
1 Proteus Staff
1 Jalira, Master Polymorphist
1 Djinn of Wishes
1 Synthetic Destiny
1 Mass Polymorph
Manifest
1 Soul Summons
1 Reality Shift
1 Mastery of the Unseen
1 Primordial Mist
Enchantments
(other)
1 Necromancy
1 Oath of Jace
1 Oath of Teferi
1 Divine Visitation
1 Omniscience
Artifacts
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 The Chain Veil
Instant and Sorcery
(other)
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Brainstorm
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Swan Song
1 Arcane Denial
1 Negate
1 Mana Drain
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Cyclonic Rift
1 Terminus
1 Temporal Mastery
1 Command Tower
1 Tundra
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Irrigated Farmland
1 Prairie Stream
1 Sea of Clouds
1 Mystic Gate
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Underground Sea
1 Watery Grave
1 Morphic Pool
1 Sunken Ruins
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Scrubland
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple of Silence
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Arid Mesa
1 Flooded Strand
1 Marsh Flats
1 Windswept Heath
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Skyline Cascade
1 Bojuka Bog
2 Plains
2 Island
1 Swamp
1 Phyrexian Tower
So I'm not saying that a Karador deck is worse than a Teshar deck or vice versa. At the end of the day, Karador has access to Survival of the Fittest and Living Death, etc.
I'm just saying comparing abilities of Teshar to any other graveyard a resource commander, Teshar is the best.