Not sure what to cut though, maybe some ghor clans and commune? I find commune is the worst card in the deck, it's my first cut almost every boarded game.
I agree. I also don't like the memnites^^ The problem of the Deck is to find Vengevines. Once they are in grave there is no problem to "activate" them. Memnite just seems super weak.
For the mirror I put in graveyard hate, extraction and kambal, maybe also direfleet daredevil and EE if you play one. I put out maybe some thoughtseize, a dreadbore/terminate (dependin on how many you play). But I am the guy that boards more in than out, ending with a 62 card deck then maybe
For those of you running Hazoret, how easy is it for you to cast her on curve? My biggest issue with the deck currently is hitting the 3rd land (playing 20 lands/ 1 Manamorphose). Looting on turn 1 solves this problem most of the time, but without it I often stumble with my mana.
There are games where I am stuck on 1 or 2 lands but these games are different than our normal games anyway. In a "normal" game 4 lands are very common (escpecially when you already casted a reveler).
In games where I am under pressure and I have to defend myself all the time, hazoret can't help me every time. She shines in grindy games that go very looooong and in those cases, you often have the 4 lands.
The card has so much reach for us, and it’s escalation is great. What are you thinking of filling that two spot with? I don’t know what your 75 looks like, but I couldn’t imagine replacing them with helix, or a card with a higher cmc.
Also, I have a flex spot and I’m not sure if I want to run Hazoret or Lily the last hope at this 1k this weekend. Anyone have some input?
Never tried lili but I play 1 Hazoret main and she never disappointed me.
So what’s the consensus of blood moon and manamorphose in the main?
Currently I have 2 Blood moon in a main. I know there are some matchups the card just offers us a free win against, but there are also plenty of times we either have to discard it, or play around it ourselves quite a bit, making it not the best turn 3 drop, which I imagine is the best time to drop it.
A lot of list I’ve seen doing well run at least 1 manamorphose, I’m thinking about cutting 1 of my 3 dreadbores for one.
Thoughts on these cards?
I always dislike bloodmoon when I draw it... But yesterday I played against boogles online. A very horrible matchup in general (pre board at the very least). He played t1 boogle, t2 his carddraw creature (forgot the name) and t3 auras on the boogle, I played t3 bloodmoon and he was completely out of the game. He couldn't cast any spells and his 3/3 boogle was easy to handle... Those situations are lucky and rare but they exist . Nontheless I will try lists without bloodmoon and with 2 manamorphose in the future :)Since UW is also attacking opponents manabases People play more basics nowadays.
I guess you only need black basics for bloodmoon and thus, Marshflats are better imo. I had some situations where I wanted to play bloodmoon but couldnt fetch for a swamp with my arid mesa, so I changed them to Marshflats.
Played some matches online with the "usual" RBw deck against the 4 color deck. In the mirror, they are favored because traverse is really gas but in general I agree with you: I don't like to splash the fourth color.
I agree. I also don't like the memnites^^ The problem of the Deck is to find Vengevines. Once they are in grave there is no problem to "activate" them. Memnite just seems super weak.
There are games where I am stuck on 1 or 2 lands but these games are different than our normal games anyway. In a "normal" game 4 lands are very common (escpecially when you already casted a reveler).
In games where I am under pressure and I have to defend myself all the time, hazoret can't help me every time. She shines in grindy games that go very looooong and in those cases, you often have the 4 lands.
Never tried lili but I play 1 Hazoret main and she never disappointed me.
I always dislike bloodmoon when I draw it... But yesterday I played against boogles online. A very horrible matchup in general (pre board at the very least). He played t1 boogle, t2 his carddraw creature (forgot the name) and t3 auras on the boogle, I played t3 bloodmoon and he was completely out of the game. He couldn't cast any spells and his 3/3 boogle was easy to handle... Those situations are lucky and rare but they exist . Nontheless I will try lists without bloodmoon and with 2 manamorphose in the future :)Since UW is also attacking opponents manabases People play more basics nowadays.
You can put it in if you play the green variant of this deck with traverse and mishras bauble I guess
I guess it's because with DFD you see 100% what you get.
Abbot looks really nice in theory but he is not that good in the early turns, he doesn't make reveler cheaper and he doesn't trigger pyromancer...
Bigger? Yes! More? I dont know...^^