Bats have given as more reason to trust him then dagger has. Out of the short list presented to us, dagger so far is the only one who has openly lied about this allignment and currently confirmed bulletproof. Which means we can't really let him live through the night if he can kill.
Been waiting for what exactly? I having absolutely no hand in yesterday's mislynch. Me still being alive, even after it was fairly clear that the scum had bigger fish to fry and that neither of the vigs thought I was a problem?
Sgt and bats are right, that we need to clear up the burboy's lynch ability, seeing as his aparent inability to vig puts him in a different light despite his earlier play decisions.
With the loss of our cop and, if memory serves, no more vig shots, we kinda need to review the vanillas and then the power roles.
And I am painfully aware of that the fact most of you think I'm scum, but I'm urging you to look somewhere else.
-I'm with passislisk on banned comments and I've been reading the thread fairly consistently (even if my posting habits remain inconsistent)
-kpaca right. While Mason's are traditionally pro-town role, it is within the realm of reason that one of pair is scum. Admittidly if this is the case, I'd like to believe Muffin's the scum of the pair, since nacho has been fairly pro-town in my eyes.
My bias is apparent, and my judgement may not be the greatest, but Castle's been playin' nice the entire game, and my apprehensions from dagger never left me, and even if I can't properly justify it, I'll stand by my earlier conviction.
... Both seratonin and yourself are, on the face of it, better targets. As such, I see no reason to put up with hopelessly vague trust-by-gut nonsense from anyone here.
Hey, the only real strikes against me is a general sense of inexperience and a slightly off putting attack on Dagger, which while by no means right, wasn't wrong (entirely) either.
Given what we know and in conjucture with bat's chart, zin's right that we do need to establish some order to go through suspect, seeing as we probably outnumber scum 5:1 or 11:1, depending on how many are left.
And I suppose it goes without saying that the vanilla roles are the ones likely to be lying and the ones we need to pursue first.
Personally, I think castle or chubbz is as good as place as any to start, so long as we don't want waste a lynch on dagger, because at the moment, his fastest route to victory is our, the town's, method. But right now, we got two masons, two possible vigs, a magician, an apparent pick pocket, six supposedly vanilla townies. It's a lot of information to process.
Oh, and Unvote
chubbz has been cooperating as of late, and since the air is indescive, best to let my vote float.
And secondary question, I'm still unsure why items are so critical to the full claim. A person's flavor, name, and abilities, should be able to stand on their own, espeically since the items seem to be fairly neutral.
Finally, the last two that need to full claim haven't been around for a while, but I'm sure they'll come around. Well, I'm sure nacho will.
Yeah, I'm more likely to trust burboy, who has the flavor justification for his PR and role, plus has been pro town rather than someone who's an admitted lurker.
Unvote Vote Sgt Chubbz
And it's the necronomicon. That's kinda something you mention.
[quote=bateleur;/comments/10686514]We'll want Sgt_Chubbz's replacement to check in and the voting on the massclaim to finish, plus if the massclaim does happen there will likely be a lot of discussion.
That said, nacho wizard has unvoted, so there's no reason for you to wait before voting.
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Doing a massclaim would only supply so much information considering people lie. Yes, they are benefits to solidifying the statistics behind it, but at the same time it could also be a headache.
But I ain't got nothing to hide, thus impartial.
@Bats: Just you give me the signal, I'd be more than happy to set you up to hammer (though I assume you'd want to wait a bit longer too).
Honestly, if Dagger is neutral, we can keep him around, since he'll swing votes in town favor (what I should have said before). And if he is a bullet proof scum, we can proceed to lynch him tomorrow. Although, he's teetering on the edge. I've been silent because day 2, but i'm up for it.
Vote Dagger
Sgt and bats are right, that we need to clear up the burboy's lynch ability, seeing as his aparent inability to vig puts him in a different light despite his earlier play decisions.
With the loss of our cop and, if memory serves, no more vig shots, we kinda need to review the vanillas and then the power roles.
And I am painfully aware of that the fact most of you think I'm scum, but I'm urging you to look somewhere else.
-kpaca right. While Mason's are traditionally pro-town role, it is within the realm of reason that one of pair is scum. Admittidly if this is the case, I'd like to believe Muffin's the scum of the pair, since nacho has been fairly pro-town in my eyes.
My bias is apparent, and my judgement may not be the greatest, but Castle's been playin' nice the entire game, and my apprehensions from dagger never left me, and even if I can't properly justify it, I'll stand by my earlier conviction.
Hey, the only real strikes against me is a general sense of inexperience and a slightly off putting attack on Dagger, which while by no means right, wasn't wrong (entirely) either.
And I suppose it goes without saying that the vanilla roles are the ones likely to be lying and the ones we need to pursue first.
Personally, I think castle or chubbz is as good as place as any to start, so long as we don't want waste a lynch on dagger, because at the moment, his fastest route to victory is our, the town's, method. But right now, we got two masons, two possible vigs, a magician, an apparent pick pocket, six supposedly vanilla townies. It's a lot of information to process.
Oh, and Unvote
chubbz has been cooperating as of late, and since the air is indescive, best to let my vote float.
And secondary question, I'm still unsure why items are so critical to the full claim. A person's flavor, name, and abilities, should be able to stand on their own, espeically since the items seem to be fairly neutral.
Finally, the last two that need to full claim haven't been around for a while, but I'm sure they'll come around. Well, I'm sure nacho will.
And on the off chance that it doesn't, the name's Duke Ellington, Town Vanilla Composer.
Unvote
Vote Sgt Chubbz
And it's the necronomicon. That's kinda something you mention.
Yay (5) - Dagger, zindabad, The_Muffin_Man, AsianInvasion, nacho wizard, seratonin
Nay (4) - bateleur, kpaca, passislisk, Fenris
Undecided (4) - burboy, Chubbz, Castle
When I said impartial, I honestly did mean that. But I got nothing to hide and if it helps expedite the day.
That said, nacho wizard has unvoted, so there's no reason for you to wait before voting.
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Fair enough.
Vote Dagger
Yay (2) - Dagger, zindabad, muffin
Nay (1) - bateleur, kpaca
Impartial (1)-seratonin
Doing a massclaim would only supply so much information considering people lie. Yes, they are benefits to solidifying the statistics behind it, but at the same time it could also be a headache.
But I ain't got nothing to hide, thus impartial.
@Bats: Just you give me the signal, I'd be more than happy to set you up to hammer (though I assume you'd want to wait a bit longer too).
My vote is burboy, bat, or kpaca hammer
You've guys done the vision of Aegea proud.
and GM: I think Doda, meant through Workstation, which is how most of us did the original playtesting for Aegis.