We still have about one more day, and the evidence against him is slightly overwhelming (unless he suddenly makes a return that explains everything).
pass has been in my eyes, a townie, and has never (technically) lied to us before, but the fact that his and kpaca's stories have minor conflict worries me.
So, yes, I'm on board with a burboy lynch, but I'm concerned with the nature of the Necro tome, where it is now, and who we should trust with the responsibility of lynching someone who was at one point a great advocate for us.
After we discern a little through that, I'll gladly vote
To be fair, it had already been three days since you posted.
But that's a relatively minor issue since burboy still hasn't posted and considering alot of actions will be contingent on what he has to say, we can't do anything (though, with kpaca denying the kill, I'm forced to speculate whether or not pass is trying to pull a bats)
Alright, I see your point. There was enough uncertainty regarding the issue so there's that. I don't want to see you lynched, either today or tomorrow, because I do think you have the town's best interest at heart, but the fact there's a very poor vig record right now and the threat of the serial killer means that you're probably not the best target (despite zin's logic)
I agreed with you then, and voted for dagger, but the thing is I would have voted for him with an equal amount of conviction even if you didn't claim watcher.
I don't know, I guess I don't see the precise gain of sacrificing yourself to stop a neutral (though Dagger would have flipped on the town this stage of the game, where the ratio is dangerous.)
Alright, so if kpaca is telling the truth, then pass's information would be slightly off. Even taking that into consideration, we do need to figure out what we need in a fairly short time frame, and while I'm not particularly fond of pushing someone who may already be insane over the edge, we're past the time for caution.
With the mafia at about 1 or 2 members and a potential serial killer, forgive me if I state the obvious, but we can't afford any screw ups.
What I want to know right now is
-Bat's motivation for killing Dagger
-kpaca's reasoning for sitting on his kill
-burboy's reasoning for whatever action he did
-pass's theory on how the mafia kill was stymied given we lost our doctor along whiles back.
-And where Chubbz is.
As much as I would love to take pass' information for word, after Bats' failed information, gambit, I'm taking it with a grain of salt. He put forth a great amount of detail in his flavor and his argument is in line with my own speculation (it's pretty clear kpaca killed Muffin, and burboy going insane and becoming a sk is definitely within the realm of possiblity.)
Now, with only two kills, there are main two cases in my mind
A) burboy is a sk
B) burboy isn't a sk, and the mafia just took out someone
Though the last one isn't in line with new information.
I'll give my opinions on what course of action we should take, but it's all irrelevent till more people check in
Well, you didn't lie to us, so that's something. Everything you say is in line with the events that occurred and there is some logic behind it.
Burboy easily could have started a townie, but when his sanity dropped (vigging or book, slightly irrelevent), a robotic serial killer definitely isn't out of the question. Kpaca is clearly behind muffin, as documented by several priors (which I can dredge up if needed), and zin was part of a contingent who was speculating serial killers.
If pass is right (which I'm inclined to believe, seeing as we just saw a failed infomation role gambit), we need to lynch burboy then Bats.
Though, this does present an interesting situation, seeing as the Mafia didn't kill someone and the fact that bats did lie to us. (My thinking behind the lack of a mafia kill is that burboy and kpaca probably stole the kill.)
Speculation leads me to believe that kpaca shot Muffin do the animosity between the two. To be honest though, muffin didn't really help himself in that department. But that doesn't explain why Burboy didn't shoot anyone.
I really wishing you were telling the truth bats. *sigh*
Tbh, I feel that Dagger is just trying to turn this on Bats because he's correct.
-The pronoun 'he' in this sentence is ambigious, which is why I 'misinterpreted' this as you siding with dagger, especially considering the following transaction
1) You voted for me, unvoted, and then voted for me again when dagger suggested I was the sixth mafia. Note the timeline
2) By not voting for bats or dagger you are detracting form the town's goal
3) If bats is right, dagger is one of the one of the last remaining scum and his suscpicion of me is lessened
4) if bats is wrong, it likely that Bats is scum, and Dagger is who is say he is and the suscpicion surrounding me remains more or less the same
5) Voting for me creates an unneccessary third option, when it's fairly clear one of the two is lying.
6) Voting for dagger or bats, allows us to figure out who is lying and thus creates a better game plan for tomorrow.
Conclusion: If you really do beleive bats is telling the truth, the best move would be to vote for dagger.
That's probably due to ambigous pronoun usage more than anything, but the point stands, voting for me, only after dagger says it is poor timing and refusing to side with bats on a much important issue speaks even louder
I was waiting because Seratonin was my target from a day or two ago, and nobody was willing to go after him.
Buuuutttt then we have this new development with Dagger.
Unvote
Weaselly?
I'm sorry, but you and Dagger are just fighting for the sake of fighting.
If you weren't Nacho's mason, this really wouldn't reflect well on you. First you for vote me for no particular reason. Then, after realizing no one is going along with you, you unvote.
You then sided with Dagger, without any real justification, and trying to prove that point, vote for me, again only after Dagger's prompting.
So, here's the thing. Dagger and bats are currently the only two that have put themselves out there are risking something. Siding with one of them is the easiest way to get to someone else right now, because if bats is right, anyone siding with dagger looks bad and if Dagger is right, well bats nor I will be making much further.
We weren't waiting for confirmation from you, so much as your opinion on the Dagger v. Bats debate going on. We're waiting to see if anything happened to burboy and how that lines up with dagger's story
Bats claimed he saw nothing earlier, so I'm not sure where that puts him.
But we're just waiting for Chubbz to throw his two cents in, before we march on with any course of action.
The fact of the matter is, that a situation where Bat is scum is much easier to deal with than if dagger is, and everyone is aware of my misgivings with him (however, misguided they were at the time).
pass has been in my eyes, a townie, and has never (technically) lied to us before, but the fact that his and kpaca's stories have minor conflict worries me.
So, yes, I'm on board with a burboy lynch, but I'm concerned with the nature of the Necro tome, where it is now, and who we should trust with the responsibility of lynching someone who was at one point a great advocate for us.
After we discern a little through that, I'll gladly vote
But that's a relatively minor issue since burboy still hasn't posted and considering alot of actions will be contingent on what he has to say, we can't do anything (though, with kpaca denying the kill, I'm forced to speculate whether or not pass is trying to pull a bats)
I don't know, I guess I don't see the precise gain of sacrificing yourself to stop a neutral (though Dagger would have flipped on the town this stage of the game, where the ratio is dangerous.)
With the mafia at about 1 or 2 members and a potential serial killer, forgive me if I state the obvious, but we can't afford any screw ups.
What I want to know right now is
-Bat's motivation for killing Dagger
-kpaca's reasoning for sitting on his kill
-burboy's reasoning for whatever action he did
-pass's theory on how the mafia kill was stymied given we lost our doctor along whiles back.
-And where Chubbz is.
Now, with only two kills, there are main two cases in my mind
A) burboy is a sk
B) burboy isn't a sk, and the mafia just took out someone
Though the last one isn't in line with new information.
I'll give my opinions on what course of action we should take, but it's all irrelevent till more people check in
Burboy easily could have started a townie, but when his sanity dropped (vigging or book, slightly irrelevent), a robotic serial killer definitely isn't out of the question. Kpaca is clearly behind muffin, as documented by several priors (which I can dredge up if needed), and zin was part of a contingent who was speculating serial killers.
If pass is right (which I'm inclined to believe, seeing as we just saw a failed infomation role gambit), we need to lynch burboy then Bats.
Though, this does present an interesting situation, seeing as the Mafia didn't kill someone and the fact that bats did lie to us. (My thinking behind the lack of a mafia kill is that burboy and kpaca probably stole the kill.)
I really wishing you were telling the truth bats. *sigh*
Again, if Nacho wasn't your mason, they'd be a decent case against you
-Town, under this scenrio, also dead
2. What alignment is Dagger?
-Scum
3. Who are your top two choices for town?
-pass and burboy (excluding bats, for sake of the scenrio)
4. There are 9 players left alive. How many are mafia and how many are neutral?
-Likely to be two scum, netural less than or equal to two
5. Assume we no lynch today. You are a one-shot vig. Disregarding bateleur and Dagger, who do you shoot, if anyone?
I'd go with Chubbz
-The pronoun 'he' in this sentence is ambigious, which is why I 'misinterpreted' this as you siding with dagger, especially considering the following transaction
1) You voted for me, unvoted, and then voted for me again when dagger suggested I was the sixth mafia. Note the timeline
2) By not voting for bats or dagger you are detracting form the town's goal
3) If bats is right, dagger is one of the one of the last remaining scum and his suscpicion of me is lessened
4) if bats is wrong, it likely that Bats is scum, and Dagger is who is say he is and the suscpicion surrounding me remains more or less the same
5) Voting for me creates an unneccessary third option, when it's fairly clear one of the two is lying.
6) Voting for dagger or bats, allows us to figure out who is lying and thus creates a better game plan for tomorrow.
Conclusion: If you really do beleive bats is telling the truth, the best move would be to vote for dagger.
If you weren't Nacho's mason, this really wouldn't reflect well on you. First you for vote me for no particular reason. Then, after realizing no one is going along with you, you unvote.
You then sided with Dagger, without any real justification, and trying to prove that point, vote for me, again only after Dagger's prompting.
So, here's the thing. Dagger and bats are currently the only two that have put themselves out there are risking something. Siding with one of them is the easiest way to get to someone else right now, because if bats is right, anyone siding with dagger looks bad and if Dagger is right, well bats nor I will be making much further.
Bats claimed he saw nothing earlier, so I'm not sure where that puts him.
But we're just waiting for Chubbz to throw his two cents in, before we march on with any course of action.
The fact of the matter is, that a situation where Bat is scum is much easier to deal with than if dagger is, and everyone is aware of my misgivings with him (however, misguided they were at the time).
I'm siding with Bats on this one.