No, seriously. KAMIGAWA. We did get Tamiyo after all, and she played some major role not to long ago. And last time kamigawa was set in distant past, return would have to be in modern times.
For most active players, Champions of kamigawa looks like some ancient set. Some weren't even born Only few old players like me and, maybe some users of mtgsalvations remember these times. When most powerful equipment was printed in starter deck... Cranial extraction, kokusho, jitta, meloku, SDT, Gifts, and notably Heartbeat combo. Good times.
Really? And that "mistake" was legal as long as it was selling boosters... Business today is merciless. And make no mistake, magic IS Wizards business. If there is a profit in printing dual lands, we WILL get dual lands, Reserved List or not. Thats how real life works. They don't want to back on their word? Fine. Lets print something thats even better. Shocklands were just a first step, checklands second (and they suck) but the market was tested. Now they can print even better duals, that are much more similar to originals, or even better. It WILL happen.
There is, of course a future where we will be flooded by "Proxy" duals in mint conditions ;). Each new print of these so colled proxies is better than last one. They pass even rip test these days. HOW long Wizards can maintain trust in value of their original product? Two years? Three?
Last thing: we all need to remember that Reserved List may have some real life consequences under US law, but thats it. US laws do not apply in MEXICO or European Union or Russia or China etc. Sure, there are some acts that most countries use to protect customers interests, but you must remember that if someone is registered in US and pays taxes in US and is called HASBRO, then it doesnt mean its the same company as HASBRO in Spain or Deutchland. For sure, they are part of a large group called HASBRO, but they not necessarly may be considered as the same company.
My point is: HASBRO can print and sell cards from reserved list everywhere where its legal. And if they can, then they will.
Another thing is spirit of RL. If that would be the case, all dual lands would break that so called "spirit". And after brief search i see Canopy Vista. Where is spirit of RL? If they can print cards that are strictly worse than cards on reserved list, then they can print cards that are strictly better.
But dual lands with basic land types, that have no chance of coming into play tapped, are unlikely.
Yeah, my point exactly. Sure, untapped duals are hard to imagine riggt now, but so was lightning bolt in modern. Or tarmogoyf or jace, the mind sculptor. These cards are waaaay over curve in terms of power, and yet they were printed and legal for a long time.
Just to be clear
With new mana symbol added to game,
Dual land with:
T:add 1 colorless mana.
Is considered as violating RL or not? Technicly, before change in mana symbols all lands gave this generic mana.
Did wizards said anything about something like this?
What i think: its not violating, because its different from underground river, but since i recently returned to game just to find out i missed such a big change maybe im wrong. Can someone help me in this matter?
This violates the silly "spirit of RL" thing, but even if it didn't, it will have a 0% chance of seeing print. Printing this will remove all design space around dual lands, ever, in addition to obsoleting just about all existing dual lands.
I disagree with your statement. If Land like that would be printed in non modern legal set, it would be perfectly fine. Its not removing design space, because we already have ABUR duals. Its just complementary stuff. Its better than original duals obviously, but does it break RL policy? I dont think so. They could add other abilities that would interact with other things like planeswalkers etc. There is a LOT of design space here, but printing it with colorless mana is probably the best we could get.
Another thing is spirit of RL. If that would be the case, all dual lands would break that so called "spirit". And after brief search i see Canopy Vista. Where is spirit of RL? If they can print cards that are strictly worse than cards on reserved list, then they can print cards that are strictly better.
No, they didn't. There is nothing in the game that will add generic mana to your mana pool. There is a distinction between generic mana (part of a cost) and colorless mana (added to your pool, or occasionally part of a cost in OGW), and that distinction has existed since Alpha, even if the terminology has shifted. The only thing novel about OGW in this area was assigning a distinct mana symbol to colorless mana (when generic costs and colorless mana previously shared the same symbol), and creating a few cards which require colorless mana to be spent on them.
Sorry, it was my wrong use of words. But since they decided to retroactively change how colorless mana is represent, AND add cards that specifically use it, then there is now a possibility to print cards that works just like these on that bad list.
Just to be clear
With new mana symbol added to game,
Dual land with:
T:add 1 colorless mana.
Is considered as violating RL or not? Technicly, before change in mana symbols all lands gave this generic mana.
Did wizards said anything about something like this?
What i think: its not violating, because its different from underground river, but since i recently returned to game just to find out i missed such a big change maybe im wrong. Can someone help me in this matter?
I think the thing that eludes you is the reason it hasn't seen a massive amount of play in Modern. What enchantment would be a fantastic win AND not be dead in-hand.
Are you talking about Gods? Indestructible enchantment + creature after devotion activation?
Deathpact Angel seems like a total waste of a Mythic Rare slot.
I think we are going to get some other spell/creature that can interact with it: be it getting it from the library into play (not too powerful if done at sorcery speed and could indicate why it does not have haste); maybe an enchantment called Deathpact?
What do you guys think? Honestly I am a bit incredulous that there isn't something more to this angel; I understand design concerns itself with limited a whole lot, and while I agree that not all Mythics should be contructed playable this mythic is limited exclusive and not even that impressive.
Or maybe I am missing something?
You are missing the fact that this angel is virtually immortal. And immortality is a totally mythic material. Mythic doesn't mean that it must be strong or playable outside of limited.
For most active players, Champions of kamigawa looks like some ancient set. Some weren't even born
Fatal Pushor Faerie Macabre.Really? And that "mistake" was legal as long as it was selling boosters... Business today is merciless. And make no mistake, magic IS Wizards business. If there is a profit in printing dual lands, we WILL get dual lands, Reserved List or not. Thats how real life works. They don't want to back on their word? Fine. Lets print something thats even better. Shocklands were just a first step, checklands second (and they suck) but the market was tested. Now they can print even better duals, that are much more similar to originals, or even better. It WILL happen.
There is, of course a future where we will be flooded by "Proxy" duals in mint conditions ;). Each new print of these so colled proxies is better than last one. They pass even rip test these days. HOW long Wizards can maintain trust in value of their original product? Two years? Three?
Last thing: we all need to remember that Reserved List may have some real life consequences under US law, but thats it. US laws do not apply in MEXICO or European Union or Russia or China etc. Sure, there are some acts that most countries use to protect customers interests, but you must remember that if someone is registered in US and pays taxes in US and is called HASBRO, then it doesnt mean its the same company as HASBRO in Spain or Deutchland. For sure, they are part of a large group called HASBRO, but they not necessarly may be considered as the same company.
My point is: HASBRO can print and sell cards from reserved list everywhere where its legal. And if they can, then they will.
Yeah, my point exactly. Sure, untapped duals are hard to imagine riggt now, but so was lightning bolt in modern. Or tarmogoyf or jace, the mind sculptor. These cards are waaaay over curve in terms of power, and yet they were printed and legal for a long time.
I disagree with your statement. If Land like that would be printed in non modern legal set, it would be perfectly fine. Its not removing design space, because we already have ABUR duals. Its just complementary stuff. Its better than original duals obviously, but does it break RL policy? I dont think so. They could add other abilities that would interact with other things like planeswalkers etc. There is a LOT of design space here, but printing it with colorless mana is probably the best we could get.
Another thing is spirit of RL. If that would be the case, all dual lands would break that so called "spirit". And after brief search i see Canopy Vista. Where is spirit of RL? If they can print cards that are strictly worse than cards on reserved list, then they can print cards that are strictly better.
Sorry, it was my wrong use of words. But since they decided to retroactively change how colorless mana is represent, AND add cards that specifically use it, then there is now a possibility to print cards that works just like these on that bad list.
With new mana symbol added to game,
Dual land with:
T:add 1 colorless mana.
Is considered as violating RL or not? Technicly, before change in mana symbols all lands gave this generic mana.
Did wizards said anything about something like this?
What i think: its not violating, because its different from underground river, but since i recently returned to game just to find out i missed such a big change maybe im wrong. Can someone help me in this matter?
Are you talking about Gods? Indestructible enchantment + creature after devotion activation?
Shields. Alied colors need shields, and grant different abilities.
1.Force of will
2.Cabal Therapy
3.Life from the loam
4...14 crappy slots
15. Preview card.
You are missing the fact that this angel is virtually immortal. And immortality is a totally mythic material. Mythic doesn't mean that it must be strong or playable outside of limited.