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    posted a message on Why aren't there more games like Saints Row 4?
    I think you're in the beginnings of a cresting wave of dissatisfaction with video games that's been showing up as of late. NPR was recently (and may still be) doing a story regarding people who hopped ship from console games (which are mostly AAA titles) to computer games. Many people are becoming disgruntled with Call of Duty and Battlefield and Madden for lacking innovation in their gameplay and being the same thing year after year.

    Personal theory: this generation in video games (xbox 360, ps3, wii) was when video games became a big hit amongst the major populace. It was no longer just a 'geek' thing. Many companies have been searching for exactly what sells, and then sticking to just that formula. And for a couple of years there, many consumers wanted realism, sometimes grimdark realism. See the recent reboot of Batman that went for a more realistic Batman versus the cartoony versions from before.

    It's my opinion that, for a while, we WANTED realism, and so we got it. Compare Grand Theft Auto IV versus GTA San Andreas/Vice City. Compare Final Fantasy XII and XIII versus, say, IX or X. Perfect Dark Zero versus Perfect Dark. More realism in some cases, deeper stories in some cases, better graphics. But it's very hard to combine 'realism' with 'fantasy'. It's hard to be 'real' (Forza) with 'fantasy' (Burnout & Split/Second).

    At this point, it seems like many gamers, specifically those that spend a lot of time gaming, are seeing the trend of games going more towards reality and less towards that fantasy and escapism. Many are getting upset, and the trend's going to change. Sales pick up on a new type of title, developers go in that way, and a new type of title will happen.

    In my (woefully uneducated) opinion here, it's very similar to vampires and zombies in popular culture lately. Vampires were a huge deal for a while following the success of Twilight. They've kind of faded, and then Zombies became huge with Call of Duty zombies, Dead Rising, Walking Dead, etc. Those are kind of fading and a new fad will just start up.

    Problem with video games is that these big games like Call of Duty are directly backed by the fattest cats in the video game business. While those games still sell, there'll be a lot of pressure on the developers working with said companies to continue to make like items. Occasionally you'll get the self-made companies like Rockstar that do their own thing, or a company like Gearbox that retains autonomy (even with recent failures), but many are going with the money. Which, sadly, is hurting the industry as they're milking each idea for all it has, wringing blood from the stone, before finding the next big thing.

    I think we're going to head in a direction where indie titles are going to become bigger and bigger. With more and more direct downloads going on with companies like Steam and Desura, with Sony embracing indie gaming with PS4 and not requiring a publisher to help (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), with big support from exposure from Youtube, sales from Humble Bundle and other bundles focused on indie games, those big publishers are gradually going to have less and less sway on the industry. Crowdsourced funding like Kickstarter is going to help (but sadly not eliminate) the need for big investments from the larger companies, and better games will kick off the ground.

    Probably a bit too idealistic, and I think that we're going to see the typical stuff from AAA titles for the most part. Nobody wants to risk AAA money in a game that's hit or miss like, say, Risk of Rain. AAA money's for sure-hits. Which basically means playing to the masses. But hopefully we'll start seeing A or AA-level titles coming out of the smaller publishers, like Wondeful 101, Payday 2, Minecraft, Terraria, etc.

    And, remember, it doesn't have to be graphically impressive to be a damn good game. It's a nice bonus for sure. But I know a number of games $10 and under that I've spent more time on than countless numbers of $60 games simply because they were more fun, had more longevity, and better playability overall. FTL: Faster Than Light, Risk of Rain, Binding of Isaac, Reus, among others. I find that, as I sink into the games, my imagination makes up the rest.

    Conclusion? Money wants friends, so a AAA titles are likely to be the same rehashed thing they had before because they're looking to make more money. There are exceptions to the rule (I don't think you're being fair to GTA V, personally), of course. Look to the smaller games for those innovations, vote with your wallet on the games that are worth playing, and eventually those making the decisions will listen. That which sells gets made.
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    posted a message on Recent CI Bans
    Quote from euknemarchon
    Thank you for posting Nai. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think Condoms's tone rose to a level that justifies a CI mask, especially given the context. He was largely responding to mods—parinoid and skies—either nitpicking or generally being unwilling to give any real space to rezombied's complaint.


    I have to disagree with you here. Let me show you why:

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    Or even if they can't justify it!

    Sooooo, does this mean we can now be imfracted for trolling not jst users, but corporations/companies? That's crazygonuts.


    This post didn't respond to anyone. He was building off of Macius' post, but in such a way that vilifies the mod staff.

    Construction-wise, he makes a statement that reads as an accusation (even if it wasn't, and it may not have been intentionally) that the staff will ban you even if they can't justify it. Then he asks us to respond to a hypothetical, assumes the answer we're going to give, and criticizes an answer we haven't even given yet. This automatically puts the staff on the back foot, makes us defensive, and we respond badly. It isn't helpful to the conversation and actually hurts us.

    Quote from Condoms
    That's pretty accurate.


    Rezombied gives an example of an issue he's seeing, in the thread about that very issue. The staff is trying to respond to it, and Condoms essentially just +1s the issue and says 'yeah, that's what I see'. Again, not constructive.

    Mind, the way I'm reading it, I see him respond to "It means you can be suspended for using accurate terms that mods have deemed unsavory" with "That's pretty accurate". I may be reading it wrong.

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    So, no one answered my question. We can now be infracted for "trolling" companies, groups, and other non tangible entities such as but not limited to political parties, interest groups, etc? That's insane. What about all the posts in entertainment criticizing those in the entertainment industry or sports world?

    Wow.



    Less than 12 hours after he makes his initial post, he lambasts the mods for not responding to his question. Keep in mind, not only was the initial question posted at 12am CST (GMT -7), a time when most mods are sleeping, only one staff member has actually had a chance to respond to the thread at this point. Only one staff member COULD have answered his question, and they weren't in a position to do so.

    Once again, he also assumes the answer the staff is going to give will be bad, and responds accordingly. Once more this makes the conversation hostile.

    It's like talking to someone about (insert hotbed issue here). Let's assume something like gay marriage. One person defends gay marriage, the other responds with "So you're disagreeing with the Bible concerning the sanctity of marriage? That's insane." You may believe everything the Bible says about the sanctity of marriage, but they've automatically vilified your position.

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    Wow. This is an Internet forum. Infracting people for strongly criticizing the things I listed is beyond ridiculous. Beyond it.

    I assume the entertainment subs should soon be littered with retroactive infractions under this new wonderful interpretation of the rules then?


    Once more, before a staff member can even respond, he continues to put words in the staff's mouth about how we act, and then continues to vilify.

    And the last one I'll discuss:

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    Basically all I'm getting at this point is "well infract as we see fit based on if we agree with your opinion and no you won't know if what you are posting is okay"

    I guess everyone should never say anything negative about anything?

    Hooray special snowflakes!


    Still, no staff member response between his posts. Further words put in the staff's mouth, further vilification and begging the question, etc.

    Now, I may be wrong about all of this. I completely accept that possibility. But that's the problem. I, the staff member who has to work on this and try to help the community, feel as if I'm being vilified before I've even opened my mouth. I feel as if I'm walking into a shark tank (proverbially, since I need to respond to an upset user and try to help them and fully expect to have them bite at me) and someone's just thrown offal at me. I expect the environment and atmosphere to get even worse and charged due to these posts.

    As I said, I may be completely off-base. But that's how it feels to me, and I wasn't even involved in the thread. This is why I feel that there was a problem with his posting. I may be entirely wrong, and I need to be able to play devil's advocate with someone so we can go over both sides.
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    posted a message on Announcing the MTGS Beta!
    @Premium: It's also for their actual product, the Curse mod-thing for various games like WoW. Friends told me that it holds mods so you can activate them easily, I guess?
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    posted a message on The Adderall Thread
    Folks, if you can't calm it down in here, cards will start having to be applied and the thread will be closed. Keep it civil.
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