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    posted a message on [WAR} Official War of the Spark Trailer!


    LINK!

    So goooood! I love that WotC has moved to fully animated trailers! This trailer has me so PUMPED for WAR!
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    posted a message on No DFC in War of the Spark
    Dang, there goes the theory that the Walkers will flip into creatures to represent them losing their sparks. Dang.
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    posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Quote from mapccu »
    SCG preordering the UR deck for $40 USD and the mono white deck for $25. I get they have families to feed but seeing vendor price variance on these products is highly irritating to me. Those numbers are based SOLELY on the fact that the UR deck had higher secondary market values at the time of the spoiler.


    MSRP does not exist any more, so stores can charge whatever they think they can for all of the products.

    The Red Deck will sell better than the White Deck. Stores are forced to buy boxes with an equal number of decks in them. The best way to efficiently sell everything is to charge less for the less popular decks and charge more for the more popular decks.


    Ever since that announcement I've been noticing people seem to have a great misunderstanding of what MSRP was and did. It was never a limit on price. Stores could always charge whatever they wanted for a product - MSRP was just there to set an expectation for the consumer, not a guarantee, and certainly not something that was in any way enforceable.

    If SCG presells that deck for $25, there will be a run on that deck since that $25 will be less than the cost of buying those cards singly, and as a result the value of those cards would plummet almost immediately. By setting their price at $40, that process is slowed somewhat. The price drop for those cards will still happen, this will just make it gradual over time instead of right now. The best way to combat this is simply not to buy that deck at that price from SCG (or whoever else).

    This happens with a lot of products WotC puts out that contain reprints. I imagine SCG's preorder price for the Selesnya Guild Kit was higher than the others as well. MSRP doesn't stop that, that's not what it's there for.

    Incidentally, this also stops people from buying a bunch of those decks all at once and flipping them on eBay right away, which is what would also happen if the price was set at $25 instead of $40. It may still happen at $40 but probably not as badly. The board game Scythc was another example of this type of thing - we set our price higher to avoid people coming in and buying them all only to resell them online.

    MSRP going away isn't going to have much effect on retailers that know what they're doing. Their prices are likely still going to keep the same profit margins they always did (50% typically). It's not going to magically allow stores to "gouge" because they always could anyhow.


    MSRP is a guiding light that empowers consumers with knowledge of what the manufacturer suggests the price should be. Stores can charge more or less but we are armed with the ideal price and thus can assess if something is under or over priced. Without MSRP, we do not have that guiding light, which makes the process of deducing if something is fairly priced or not more difficult. It means we the consumer must do research before we purchase a product to know if we are getting ripped off or not.

    The lack of MSRP also hurts stores who are not as heavily versed in the arcane ways of Magic. Instead being able to simply put an item up and sell if for the listed price, they too need to do research and determine what a fair price is for something. Charge too much and no one will buy from you, charge too little and you are missing out on profits.

    And the lack of MSRP does not affect us much right now but going forward, WotC will likely obfuscate what the price of a product is to the consumer by offering new and different products. I remember when Heroclix first came out with their really big miniatures (action figure-sized miniatures). They did not have an MSRP and they were a completely new product. No one had any real context on how much the boxes should cost. Some stores charged a lot, some stores charged a little. It was all over the place. The market eventually found an equilibrium but not before some people wound up paying vastly more than others (I was one of those who was over charged. My FLGS owner actually gave me store credit when he found out how much more he charged me than his competitors).


    I do not worry about the loss of MSRP that much but to say it has little bearing on the market going forward is a little silly.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from mapccu »
    SCG preordering the UR deck for $40 USD and the mono white deck for $25. I get they have families to feed but seeing vendor price variance on these products is highly irritating to me. Those numbers are based SOLELY on the fact that the UR deck had higher secondary market values at the time of the spoiler.


    MSRP does not exist any more, so stores can charge whatever they think they can for all of the products.

    The Red Deck will sell better than the White Deck. Stores are forced to buy boxes with an equal number of decks in them. The best way to efficiently sell everything is to charge less for the less popular decks and charge more for the more popular decks.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Wow. Such a downgrade from last year.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Quote from Simto »
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Depending on how the storyline goes, Bolas could possibly be 5-color.


    Or a 5 colour Jace-Guildpact-Super-Sayin-Bolas-Slayer.


    The word you are looking for is Captain Mana!



    Fixed it for you Smile

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Quote from Simto »
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Depending on how the storyline goes, Bolas could possibly be 5-color.


    Or a 5 colour Jace-Guildpact-Super-Sayin-Bolas-Slayer.


    The word you are looking for is Captain Mana!

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    From WotC: "What's more, each of these 36 Planeswalkers will have a planeswalker card in War of the Spark. (The card art will be different, though—in fact, these stained-glass versions aren't appearing on cards at all!) You'll have to wait for War of the Spark previews in April to see the new cards, but each booster pack will contain a planeswalker so you should have no trouble getting your hands on them when the set is released."

    Why though? Why not make these the cool time stamped Planeswalker cards from WAR's Pre-Release?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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    posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    I don't find TNN to be really interesting to play against.
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    posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    Actually Snow Lands ARE basic lands and we do NEED more Snow Lands...
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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