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  • posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Quote from Ph03niX »
    I wonder if some of those 36 PW will have "Can be played as your commander" clause...


    MaRo has said that they will avoid adding clauses like that for cards released in standard sets, to avoid confusing people who do not play Commander.
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  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Quote from mapccu »
    SCG preordering the UR deck for $40 USD and the mono white deck for $25. I get they have families to feed but seeing vendor price variance on these products is highly irritating to me. Those numbers are based SOLELY on the fact that the UR deck had higher secondary market values at the time of the spoiler.


    MSRP does not exist any more, so stores can charge whatever they think they can for all of the products.

    The Red Deck will sell better than the White Deck. Stores are forced to buy boxes with an equal number of decks in them. The best way to efficiently sell everything is to charge less for the less popular decks and charge more for the more popular decks.


    Ever since that announcement I've been noticing people seem to have a great misunderstanding of what MSRP was and did. It was never a limit on price. Stores could always charge whatever they wanted for a product - MSRP was just there to set an expectation for the consumer, not a guarantee, and certainly not something that was in any way enforceable.

    If SCG presells that deck for $25, there will be a run on that deck since that $25 will be less than the cost of buying those cards singly, and as a result the value of those cards would plummet almost immediately. By setting their price at $40, that process is slowed somewhat. The price drop for those cards will still happen, this will just make it gradual over time instead of right now. The best way to combat this is simply not to buy that deck at that price from SCG (or whoever else).

    This happens with a lot of products WotC puts out that contain reprints. I imagine SCG's preorder price for the Selesnya Guild Kit was higher than the others as well. MSRP doesn't stop that, that's not what it's there for.

    Incidentally, this also stops people from buying a bunch of those decks all at once and flipping them on eBay right away, which is what would also happen if the price was set at $25 instead of $40. It may still happen at $40 but probably not as badly. The board game Scythc was another example of this type of thing - we set our price higher to avoid people coming in and buying them all only to resell them online.

    MSRP going away isn't going to have much effect on retailers that know what they're doing. Their prices are likely still going to keep the same profit margins they always did (50% typically). It's not going to magically allow stores to "gouge" because they always could anyhow.


    MSRP is a guiding light that empowers consumers with knowledge of what the manufacturer suggests the price should be. Stores can charge more or less but we are armed with the ideal price and thus can assess if something is under or over priced. Without MSRP, we do not have that guiding light, which makes the process of deducing if something is fairly priced or not more difficult. It means we the consumer must do research before we purchase a product to know if we are getting ripped off or not.

    The lack of MSRP also hurts stores who are not as heavily versed in the arcane ways of Magic. Instead being able to simply put an item up and sell if for the listed price, they too need to do research and determine what a fair price is for something. Charge too much and no one will buy from you, charge too little and you are missing out on profits.

    And the lack of MSRP does not affect us much right now but going forward, WotC will likely obfuscate what the price of a product is to the consumer by offering new and different products. I remember when Heroclix first came out with their really big miniatures (action figure-sized miniatures). They did not have an MSRP and they were a completely new product. No one had any real context on how much the boxes should cost. Some stores charged a lot, some stores charged a little. It was all over the place. The market eventually found an equilibrium but not before some people wound up paying vastly more than others (I was one of those who was over charged. My FLGS owner actually gave me store credit when he found out how much more he charged me than his competitors).


    I do not worry about the loss of MSRP that much but to say it has little bearing on the market going forward is a little silly.
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  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from mapccu »
    SCG preordering the UR deck for $40 USD and the mono white deck for $25. I get they have families to feed but seeing vendor price variance on these products is highly irritating to me. Those numbers are based SOLELY on the fact that the UR deck had higher secondary market values at the time of the spoiler.


    MSRP does not exist any more, so stores can charge whatever they think they can for all of the products.

    The Red Deck will sell better than the White Deck. Stores are forced to buy boxes with an equal number of decks in them. The best way to efficiently sell everything is to charge less for the less popular decks and charge more for the more popular decks.
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  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from Crazy Pierre »
    These can be built on Arena, and played to your heart's content in the limited time they'll still be playable. It's just not worth to buy and spend more money on upgrading them to full power, IMO.


    This is pretty much it. I think Wizards is missing the mark on this product. It should be released mid-Standard or early Standard, to give people an alternative route to get the singles and decks they need. For the white weenie deck, you'd need to get the Loxodons and maybe the Azorious lands if you want to splash those.
    These are not terrible value by any means, but it's just a little late in the game for some of them.


    But it is very difficult to predict what the meta will become after 4 sets rotate out and a new set rotates in.

    It takes them five months to go from designing the decks to the decks being printed. Which means if you want this product released in, say, December, they need to finalize the product in July, which is before 4 sets rotate out of Standard and at the same time that a new Core Set is being released.

    What might be better is to make a product like this that is Arena-only. They could design the product and release it on Arena with out much hassle or delay (as opposed to a print product).
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  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    You still get some decent value out of those decks:


    That right there warrants a purchase of one or two at least.

    'buster


    The deck with Arclight Phoneix is a good one to grab because Arclight will remain legal in Standard for another year.
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  • posted a message on Challenger Decks 2019
    We will definitely be getting some kind of UW deck, since Teferi will be rotating and WotC will want to capitalize on him once last time before he leave standard.


    Apparently, I was 100% wrong.
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  • posted a message on Challenger decklists for this year!
    Wow. Such a downgrade from last year.
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  • posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    Quote from redcodekevin »
    I believe sealed can be balanced by introducing a mechanic similar to Ascend. Soemthing granting you The Spark, and PWs with abilities that have a rider "you may play this ability only if you have the spark". Didn't go through 6 pages of the thread so not sure if anyone suggested something similar already.


    The idea has been floated in other threads as well. Smile

    The Planeswalkers could all be Creatures who have to either earn the "ascension" (ability to flip into a Walker) or acquire it "monarch-style" by attacking an ascended walker (thus letting the attacker flip and forcing the walker to turn back into a creature).

    Other people have floated the idea that when the walkers ultimate, they flip them into normal creatures.

    Other people have proposed that the (lower rarity) walkers will function more like Sagas, in that they have simpler/more-predictable effects.

    Other people have proposed the (lower rarity) walkers will have fewer abilities or may not even have an ult.
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  • posted a message on [WAR] War of the Spark facts by Greg Weisman
    Quote from Simto »
    Am I the only one who finds it a bit annoying that the Chandra comic takes place after the war? Kinda like there's already a trailer out for a new spiderman movie taking place after End Game. other than it already spoiling the outcome, it kinda diminishes some of the stakes and build up knowing at least some of who survive.


    There are 36 Planeswalkers in this set. We know that two of them for sure survive. So you still have 34 others that could die, not to mention untold numbers of non-planeswalkers.

    Beyond that, we already know Bolas will lose. This is his ultimate story and he cannot win. The good guys will be victorious, thus saving Ravnica and the greater multiverse. The mystery is this - when Bolas' final plan is revealed and he stands on the cusp of ultimate victory - on which side will the planeswalkers stand? Will they be for Bolas or for the Gatewatch? Which planeswalkers will die and which will survive? For those who survive, what must they sacrifice in order to to defeat Bolas?
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  • posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Quote from Simto »
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Depending on how the storyline goes, Bolas could possibly be 5-color.


    Or a 5 colour Jace-Guildpact-Super-Sayin-Bolas-Slayer.


    The word you are looking for is Captain Mana!



    Fixed it for you Smile

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  • posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Gideon is probably the one who will die but I could see Lillianna sacrificing herself in some way to save Gideon.
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  • posted a message on War of the Spark: Foil Planeswalker in Every Prerelease Pack
    Quote from Simto »
    Quote from Mishotem »
    Depending on how the storyline goes, Bolas could possibly be 5-color.


    Or a 5 colour Jace-Guildpact-Super-Sayin-Bolas-Slayer.


    The word you are looking for is Captain Mana!

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  • posted a message on MtG MMO
    Depends on what kind of MMO it is and what kind of mechanics it has. If it is a WoW clone, I will likely pass.
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  • posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    Quote from Xeruh »
    I find it utterly baffling anyone would think Bolas had a ghosts of a chance winning. The question has never been “Will Bolas lose”, you hav to add a How/Why to the front of that. Even without the Gatewatch Bolas wouldn’t win, villains don’t have overwhelming victories like that.


    Hour of Devastation and New Phyrexia would like a word with you.


    New Phyrexia was a set up story to bring the faction back into the fold so they could be set up as a future enemy. Hour of Devastation was just a piece of an overarching story. The heroes had to lose, otherwise there would be no drama in them confronting Bolas in the final act of that overarching story.
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  • posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/183394440698/will-there-be-new-oaths-in-war-of-the-spark

    *facepalm*

    Does mark even realize he may have accidentally revealed bolas lost

    This likely confirms more oaths (likely regardless) the oaths in the story’s next to always happen after the fight

    After ulamog and kozilek died gatewatch begins

    After emrakul got trapped liliana oath

    After Belzenlok death Teferi oath

    I don’t know when ajanis oath was during or after Kaladesh fight.


    So... You thought Bolas would win? Come one, man. This is the final act. He has to lose, otherwise all future sets are just Bolas conquering a plane, which would be boring.
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