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The Magic Market Index for Feb 9, 2018
  • posted a message on From The Vaults Discontinued
    Quote from Colt47 »
    This product seems pretty bad, they could've at least made all the card foil and just used their latest set foiling process....No on gives a ***** about their horrible glossy looking "premium" foiling.

    I really hope this isn't a $3 foil planeswalker and a bunch of crap commons, uncommons and 1 extra rare like Jace's mindseeker.


    I'm going to be frank here: Every other TCG does foiling better than WoTC. This company just doesn't care enough to do anything and their new foiling process is more of a money saving operation than a quality improvement. If someone wants to see what a good foil looks like from WoTC look at the foils from before modern era. Also look at the foils from Force of Will or other Bushi-road titles.


    I am continually shocked at how simple the foiling is with Magic (and I have been playing for 15 years). Games like Pokemon and Yugioh have a variety of really stunning foiling. Its a shame Magic is so incredibly basic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Murder
    Quote from Serberus_08 »
    They should print Golgari Grave-Troll for the Ravnica card, and then un-un-unban it to watch the collective tilt from moderners...


    I remember when people wouldn't even touch that card back in Ravnica Standard.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Tezzeret & Nicol Bolas new arts for M19
    Quote from aka1nas »
    I am bummed this won't be Magic Origins but for Villains. Frown


    You just blew my mind, also bummed now. Two-color DFC enemy walkers would be awesome.


    People were suggesting it yesterday. Had me pumped until WotC wagged their finger and dashed our collective hopes.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Dealing with Bogles
    Thank you for the excellent suggestions! Grin
    Posted in: Paper Pauper and Peasant
  • posted a message on WoTC breaks its 56-card shackles for Commander, Legacy & Vintage - With new "Battlebond" set
    Quote from Shea_0 »
    Quote from Shea_0 »
    Doesn't Battlebound have the same problem Commander products did? The cards will be serving multiple masters and may not satisfy all of them.


    So with Commander those 56 new cards were designed *for* Commander and as also legal in Legacy & Vintage as a side note.

    With Battlebond, these 85 new cards are not released for the targeting of any one format but can be (and hopefully will be) an area of card design with great variability - in the sense that the 85 cards are not released in a format-specific product. While these 85 cards are being shared among three formats, the cards don't have the caveat of them being designed for any one format specifically. Some individual cards may have a more "Commander" feel for sure, especially the cards with multiplayer-centric mechanics, but as a whole the pool of 85 cards could potentially be what ever these 3 formats are needing.

    Think of it this way: the power level of these 85 cards is going to be well beyond what could justifiably be printed directly into Modern and Standard within a single calendar year. Commander needs powerful cards, and justifiably so in a multiplayer environment, but now there is no compulsion to "put a lid" on the quantity of cards at this kind of power level and these cards may very well be spectacular by also being within the power level for Legacy and Vintage play.

    Going the route of making products that have new card printings whose set-legality places them directly into some formats and bypassing others lets WoTC avoid the complications and avoid the conceptual filters that arise when placing cards with crossover demand into Standard-legal products. For the sake of all formats, this kind of move allows for Standard and Modern products to better focus on their specific range of design and alleviates the burden of stuffing crossover card printings into every set. Conceptually this is huge for the development of each format and allows them to stand on their own better.


    I think you are making a lot of assumptions here. Pretty sure this is just going to be a fun set like Conspiracy and Unhinged. Some cards might find homes elsewhere but I don't think this is going to be the magic bullet you are looking for.



    I guess I'm pretty darn excited, maybe that's got me too hopeful for what this Battlebond set may hold. I can't deny that. However I do feel that I'm also putting a lot of emphasis on the importance of the concept of printing cards directly into formats by bypassing others. This is no small thing and this concept just expanded. This is the big deal I'm excited about.


    I agree, bypassing Standard is the best way to make new Legacy/Vintage and Modern cards but I am not entirely sure stuffing those into a draft set is the best way to go about it (the same way I was never sold on doing the same thing with Commander sets). Still, I am hopeful a few of the cards will be playable in other formats. Even if they aren't, 2HG drafting sounds like fun.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Tezzeret & Nicol Bolas new arts for M19
    I am bummed this won't be Magic Origins but for Villains. Frown
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on What does Wizards of the Coast need to do to improve magic the gathering?
    Quote from Colt47 »
    The price may have gone up on paper, but the company is also spending a lot more money designing completely new cards than they used to. Originally they just had standard sets to worry about and filled the blank spaces with core sets composed mostly of reprint cards. When I came back to this game they expanded their card development to include sets like conspiracy and commander at a regular basis. Even more recently, they've started ramping up their new set releases so they have single large sets instead of blocks and they brought core sets back largely because they've stretched themselves as far as they can go on R&D.


    Core Sets have returned because WotC realized it was too difficult to include lots of reprints/functional-reprints/Basic Cards that Standard needs to thrive while also giving each non-Core Set expansion its own identity.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Singles
    Card Kingdom, Star City, Channel Fireball and eBay
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Murder
    Quote from doc.brown »
    Quote from TBuzzsaw »
    Well there goes Thragtusk representing M13. Looks like I lost $5 on this bet. arms crossed

    there should be more than one card per set.

    btw, do we know when official spoilers start? I'm really pumped for this! hopefully we get some nice rarity downshift for pauper :p



    Every set gets 1 card. After that, it is up in the air.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Binders?
    I would suggest UltraPro's 9 sleeve binders. They are cheap and effective. Plus, you can buy 1 per set and the outer cover will be themed for that set. Smile

    https://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=4684&osCsid=a158b455mvmqfg34dubrfeu9g5
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on WoTC breaks its 56-card shackles for Commander, Legacy & Vintage - With new "Battlebond" set
    Quote from Shea_0 »
    Doesn't Battlebound have the same problem Commander products did? The cards will be serving multiple masters and may not satisfy all of them.


    So with Commander those 56 new cards were designed *for* Commander and as also legal in Legacy & Vintage as a side note.

    With Battlebond, these 85 new cards are not released for the targeting of any one format but can be (and hopefully will be) an area of card design with great variability - in the sense that the 85 cards are not released in a format-specific product. While these 85 cards are being shared among three formats, the cards don't have the caveat of them being designed for any one format specifically. Some individual cards may have a more "Commander" feel for sure, especially the cards with multiplayer-centric mechanics, but as a whole the pool of 85 cards could potentially be what ever these 3 formats are needing.

    Think of it this way: the power level of these 85 cards is going to be well beyond what could justifiably be printed directly into Modern and Standard within a single calendar year. Commander needs powerful cards, and justifiably so in a multiplayer environment, but now there is no compulsion to "put a lid" on the quantity of cards at this kind of power level and these cards may very well be spectacular by also being within the power level for Legacy and Vintage play.

    Going the route of making products that have new card printings whose set-legality places them directly into some formats and bypassing others lets WoTC avoid the complications and avoid the conceptual filters that arise when placing cards with crossover demand into Standard-legal products. For the sake of all formats, this kind of move allows for Standard and Modern products to better focus on their specific range of design and alleviates the burden of stuffing crossover card printings into every set. Conceptually this is huge for the development of each format and allows them to stand on their own better.


    I think you are making a lot of assumptions here. Pretty sure this is just going to be a fun set like Conspiracy and Unhinged. Some cards might find homes elsewhere but I don't think this is going to be the magic bullet you are looking for.

    Quote from SavannahLion »
    Doesn't Battlebound have the same problem Commander products did? The cards will be serving multiple masters and may not satisfy all of them.


    I concur. I thought Battlebond was intended for 2HG? Did misread that somehow?




    From the announcement: "For Limited, you can play Battlebond in either Sealed Deck or Booster Draft. Like Conspiracy, it's a mix of reprint cards and new cards. There are 254 unique cards in total, and 85 of those cards are brand new, all of which will immediately be legal in Commander, Legacy, and Vintage! The rest are all reprints, some of which even have spiffy new artwork. (And many of them I think you'll be quite excited for)."
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on WoTC breaks its 56-card shackles for Commander, Legacy & Vintage - With new "Battlebond" set
    Doesn't Battlebound have the same problem Commander products did? The cards will be serving multiple masters and may not satisfy all of them.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Mini Announcment day


    This product might be a test product to see if it sells better in China. If so, Wizards will likely design a Chinese-themed expansion in the future.


    I am sure a Chinese setting has been on the short list for years.


    I don't think Wizards will release an entire Chinese themed set globally. The low sales numbers of the Kamigawa block are too deep of a wound for this to happen. But of course they want a piece of the huge potential Chinese market and apparently have decided they need products that are more accesible to chinese customers. I think this deck is an attempt to create a gateway drug to Magic for Chinese players that might not have the same evocative connection to Magic's fantasy themes as an average Western customer.


    The success of Khans and Amonkhet counters your point completely. Kamigawa did not sell well because it was poorly designed (mechanically) and was sandwiched between two incredibly popular blocks (Mirrodin and Ravnica). The failures of Kamigawa taught WotC a lot of hard lessons, which they have taken to heart, for the most part.


    Fair enough, I withdraw that point. I still think the Chinese planeswalker deck is primarily an attempt to expand their market in China, and only secondarily aimed towards customers in other countries.


    Totally agree. The middle class in CHina is as large as the whole US population. Tapping into that market is important for the long term success of Magic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Murder
    That is going to be popular in Pauper.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on What does Wizards of the Coast need to do to improve magic the gathering?
    Quote from Melkor »
    The first thing they need to do is improve the quality of the physical cards. it's stupid that it has to be said, when that is what your company does, you have to do it well. In 10 years, it is entirely possible that you will be unable to find sleeve-legal copies of Amonkhet cards. I'm in Florida, the newest cards are warping in days. There are a lot of other things, but it doesn't matter how good the card text is or how playable the sets are if you need to double sleeve every single card within minutes of cracking the pack. Tarmogoyf at rare in Standard won't actually help if general use destroys all of those copies.


    The head of WotC already said the cost of paper has gone up. They could either lower quality or raise prices. They chose lower quality.

    Also, I live in Nevada and the Amonkhet cards are warped. Its pretty bad.
    Posted in: Magic General
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