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  • posted a message on oubliette is. Coming soon in a set
    Quote from user_938036 »

    That said I don't expect it in Jump Start.


    I think the Commander Draft set is way more likely but it is the card could be in Jumpstart. If we are going to be technical, the card COULD be in M21 or Ikoria as well, given that how enchantment heavy Theros Beyond Death was but... That seems less likely than the aforementioned supplemental sets.
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  • posted a message on oubliette is. Coming soon in a set
    Quote from grokh »
    This is clearly either going to be in Jump Start or the Commander Draft set.


    I don't think it will be in Jump start as it's depicted being tribal themes and build 1 deck with 2 boosters.

    Oubliette is not in a tribal theme and the card is way too complicated for building a deck with it with 2 boosters ...




    As WotC said in their article, some themes are tribal (cats, pirates, eldrazi) but some themes are not tribal but more thematically linked (Garruk, Doctor, Phyrexian, etc.).
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  • posted a message on oubliette is. Coming soon in a set
    This is clearly either going to be in Jump Start or the Commander Draft set.

    Quote from Lord Void »
    Still utterly fails to explain why it wasn't in Modern Horizons like tons of people were asking for but ok.

    A better question would be to ask why anybody though Modern Horizons would be such a natural fit for it in the first place. The damn thing is near unprintable. For one, it's a relic. Not only does it predate the modern color pie, getting an effect normally reserved for white, it does so with a massive wall of text. The 2-part Oblivion Ring template has been dead for years, so there's no way something with it was going to end up in a product that was supposed to represent the future. All of that text exists to serve a weird aura/counter preservation mechanic that, respectively, results in a wall of text or has been written much more elegantly the few times it has appeared since Oubliette's printing. All told, the sheer number of reasons to not reprint it is damning. It would probably just be forgotten if it wasn't printed at common.

    Folks should be happy that Wizards is thinking at all about how to reprint the unreprintable, not get mad about not jamming cards where they obviously don't belong.


    WotC did not want it in Modern.
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  • posted a message on Introducing Jumpstart
    Since the booster packs for this product are only going to contain 1 basic land each, why not just go the Duel Masters / Kaijudo route and allow mono colored cards to be treated as basic lands but played upside down? If you have multi colored cards why not treat them like ABU duals without the drawback from Shocklands?


    It is not 1 basic land. It is one new/cool basic land. MaRo has stated that each pack has enough land in it to make the deck viable. So likely half of each pack are just going to be lands.
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  • posted a message on 2/14 Secret Lairs: Theros Stargazing
    At 40 bucks, only one of them is cheaper than simply buying the existing cards. I think this product would have been a huge hit at 30 bucks a pop.
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  • posted a message on 5 New Secret Lairs to be announced on Feb 14
    Quote from Kryptnyt »
    There's a lot of things WOTC is doing that I'm not happy about, but selling singles when they could be selling more gambling boosters is perhaps a step in the right direction for the physical game. The secrecy around the cards is a predatory tactic, however, giving consumers the least amount of time to make a decision. You can just hear the people in the WOTC offices saying "FOMO" repeatedly in their board meetings.


    If you offer people unlimited time to purchase a premium product, they are less likely to actually purchase the item because they will put off actually spending the money indefinitely.

    If you put a time limit on the sale of the premium item, sales spike because people are forced to "buy now or never have the chance to buy it again". Loads of companies use this marketing gimmick. Funko sells con-exclusive Pops. Games Workshop makes limited edition versions of their newest rule books. Forge World (and GW) come out with sales of out of production models that will be made to order but only available for purchase over the course of a single weekend.
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  • posted a message on 5 New Secret Lairs to be announced on Feb 14
    Playing cards are not the same as TCG cards. You do not buy 15 card booster packs of playing cards with some of the cards artificially made more scarce by rarity.

    It sounds like you do not liek Secret Lairs or Booster Packs. If true, I highly suggest other games, like the new Legend of the Five Rings card game.

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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    The amount of flack that MaRo is receiving for this product and the lands on Twitter is really surprising.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    Quote from migrena »
    Quote from DanzBorin »
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    Quote from leslak »


    I think he mean "on any product" cause full art lands were a big factor on the huge sales from Unglued, Unhinged, Zendikar(original) and Worldwake, Battle for Zendikar and Oath, etc (from a casual stand point(people that buy 10 boosters each set, more or less)) Now, since Battle for zendikar we had them in Amonkhet and hour, Unstable, the judge ones and other promos, Snow fullart, Nyx fullart. Maybe he is in a fatigue for fullart lands.

    Fullart lands are always welcome but ye they are really pushing theirs sales with fullart lands now (Theros collector's boosters and normal boosters, this, etc )

    Also, just for people to be aware: Every pack with the 5 30 cards decks comes with 5 fullart foil (1 for each basic land) and 5 non foil fullart (1 for each type) the lands inside the decks looks to be normal lands.


    For a normal set sure but who thought they wouldn't do full art lands for this? Unsets are where the idea first came from.


    The only legal cards (in sanctioned formats) are the lands (and one of the whys casuals bought it in the first place). As a casual it is the seccond product with fullart lands he is getting this year. (assuming he is a casual)

    Un sets are fun and all, but it's a pet project for Wizards that gets people to buy in with fancy lands. When you have a just released set with fancy lands and now this back to back, it's too much.

    Just like everything else Wizards did in the last year and continues to do... People thought the lottery cards were bad. That was mild compared to all of this other stuff.
    invention/expedition/whatever-those-were-called lottery was not inherently bad. if you treated those as a nice bonus to what you get in pack it was actually good. they were problematic when you take into account that people can have gambling problems. the fact that this is preconstructed product that contains limited number of those lands speaks a lot of how confident wotc is with the product. by which i mean not at all and feel the need to boost sales by making parts of it artificially scarce.

    full art lands are always welcome but they lost all novelty for me. including this we have four products with full art lands in 12 months span. it's just not interesting anymore.

    /edit
    i have just noticed holostamp on those. why do they have it?


    Which 12 month span had 4 full art land releases?

    We have only had so many full art lands:

    February 2020 - Unsanctioned
    January 2020 - Theros Beyond Death
    June 2019 - Modern Horizons (although technically these are Snow-covered full arts)
    December 2017 - Unstable
    July 2017 - Hour of Devastation
    April 2017 - Amonkhet
    Jan 2016 - Oath of the Gatewatch

    Also, I am not really sure full art lands are boring. Each one of the above sets had wildly different art, composition and theme. It is not like we were given a bunch of generic looking islands.

    The Amonket full art lands showed the plane at Bolas' height of power, while the Hours ones featured the same scene but at sunset with the destroyed/crumbling architecture.

    The unstable lands had no borders.

    Theros Nyx lands do not feature terrain at all.

    Unsanctioned lands have a unique frame.

    Modern Horizons has snow-covered lands.

    If anything, the only "generic" ones are the Battle for Zendikar ones (and even they still have Hedrons and floating rocks and junk).
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  • posted a message on [UND] All 16 new cards and the decklists.
    Quote from FunkyDragon »
    This lack of MSRP is really annoying. I want to know how much the set is to save up money but can't find a price.

    As for the cards, there's definitely some fun stuff that will have to go in my Un-Cube. Don't need the reprints, but several of the new cards are slam dunks. And did I see Giant Teddy Bear tokens for Water Gun Balloon Game? I was planning to make custom ones but might not need to now.


    Looks like 50.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    Quote from DanzBorin »
    Ahh... Wizards pushing sales of product with lands is getting bad. It used to be once every few years, now it's multiple times a year. Enough already.


    Does it really matter? We still get normal looking lands in all standard-legal sets, if that is your jam.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    I really like how unique these lands look!

    I am disappointed that you only get 2 of each land type per box (one foil and one normal). Huge let down because that means one would have to buy a ton of the exact same product to get all of the lands one wants/needs. At least with the booster pack model, I could draft the format and have fun multiple times. :/
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - Year of the Rat
    I'm legitimately not happy with this. I don't make a whole lot of money, but I saved up and bought a foil Marrow Gnawer for Christmas. And now this gets annouced and will surely tank the price of the original.


    The Kamigawa art for Marrow-Gnawer is stunning. Really captures the look and feel of the Nezumi (from L5R). Marrow-Gnawer from the Secret Drop looks like a Hamtaro. You have nothing to worry about in regards to your foil Marrow-Gnawer. Guaranteed.
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - Year of the Rat
    Quote from DanzBorin »
    Had no idea Marrow-Gnawer had gotten that expensive. I was about to blast it for low value then I saw that had shot up. I'm sure price will come down big time after release though.


    Marrow-Gnawer is the third most popular mono-black commander on EDH-Rec. I remember trying to build a Rat deck around when Dominaria came out (to capitalize on Rat Colony) but by the time I got around to it, Marrow-Gnawer had spiked in value.
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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - Year of the Rat
    The rat cards look great!

    My friends are fawning over this set and are talking about making rat-themed commander decks.

    Meanwhile, I am over here quietly chortling with my Hungry Lynx Halo

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