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  • posted a message on Secret lair has something else in it
    Really cool bonus.
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  • posted a message on 2019 Holiday Card: Decorated Knight
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    Hey it's Shahrazad's long lost cousin.


    'buster


    I still crack up thinking about how Shahrazad turned up in Loading Ready Run's draft for Unstable. Laughing
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  • posted a message on 11/18/19 Big Bannings
    I feel like this is confirmation that the higher ups at WotC had no faith in this set's ability to sell based off of a combination of its themes, setting and lack of a Jacetice League member, so they relied on the tried and true method of adding a couple pushed cards to the set to ensure it sold well. Play Design had been doing such a great job, this is really the only reason I can think of for why this set has experienced so many problems.

    I mean everyone immediately knew Oko was going to be oppressively good. There is no way Play Design missed that, or let it slip through the cracks.
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  • posted a message on 'Mystery Booster' product
    I am in love with this set! It is great!
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  • posted a message on 'Mystery Booster' product
    That Golgari card seems familiar. Think we've heard of that in the past.

    I wonder what other crazy ideas wizards...

    ...

    Throat wolf, Throat wolf, please God Throat wolf!


    How about an Eldrazi Sliver?



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  • posted a message on 'Mystery Booster' product
    I want Generated Horizons to be a real card! WOW!!!!
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  • posted a message on 'Mystery Booster' product
    CHAOS DRAFT CONFIRMED! Smile
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  • posted a message on 'Mystery Booster' product
    We will know more at 12 PM Pacific.
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  • posted a message on Pioneer Banned List Speculation
    I imagine we will see more things banned going forward.
    Posted in: Pioneer
  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    I do not think the only issue with fetches is the searching. The other problem is that every multi-colored deck basically needs to run fetches and the fetches feed a lot of graveyard strategies.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
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    While I can see where you're coming from in regards to rotating formats, I would counter with two points:

    1. The longest reach that any rotating format has ever had was 4 years with extended. If we reach out to the apparent trouble-zone of ten years, a player might get their first pack of cards as a high school freshman and have those cards still be legal when they leave the game as a college senior. That type of longevity in a rotating format is all but unheard of.


    Nope, when extended was introduced (1999) it was up to 7 years of cards and it rotated every 3 years.The first rotation was in 2002 and ice age, fallen empires, homelands were dropped, next roration was on 2005 and tempest, urza's and masques block went out. At some point they cut extended to 4 years.


    The three block rotation was always awkward and clunky.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
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    Extended never really went away. It is always going to be necessary to have a format for players to realistically graduate into after a rotation or two, but if it is boundless eventually that effect will be diluted. They will make Pioneer last as long as they can until it isn't filling that role any more, then they will make a new format and Pioneer will fall to the side. By not calling it extended, players will feel comfortable investing in the format and when it "rotates", it will be when the majority of players will be ready for a new format anyway.

    In the meanwhile, Modern is likely to be "eternal 2.0". They can augment the power level and balance of the format with Modern Horizons style supplemental products and have an "eternal" format without the mar of the reserved list.


    Yeah I very much see Modern becoming the new Legacy/Vintage. When Post-Pioneer comes out, I think Modern's fate will be 50/50. Modern will need a slew of reprints for the format's price of entry to remain where it is at today (very expensive) and not to devolve into Legacy/Vintage territory (waaaaay too expensive). If WotC can maintain where it is at today (or even a lower) then Modern will be fine. If they cannot, then I imagine Modern going by the wayside and Pioneer becoming Legacy 3.0 once Post-Pioneer comes out.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    Personally, what I think we ultimately need is some sort of "extended+" rotating format that holds a full 10 years worth of cards.

    The creation of modern 10 years into MTG, followed by Pioneer 10 years later, kind of shows that we run into accessibility issues (at least with Wizards' current business model) at about the 10 year mark. Giving cards a 10 year shelf-life wouldn't make cards a horrible investment for players who actively play, would give investors a decent window to speculate on cards, and gives Wizards more time to print out reprints (such as shock-lands or premium kill spells) if they want to keep cards in the format.

    While Modern plays an admirable role as "eternal format without reserved list", pioneer can't be expected to act as the "huge but accessible format where newly rotated cards can still be played" in the long term unless all unbalanced cards that slip past Play Design eventually trickle out to keep people brewing.


    Modern did not come about 10 years into MTG's life, it came in nearly 18 years into Magic's life (although the set WotC chose to lead Modern off with (8th Edition) was released 10 years into Magic's life).

    I do not think the accessibility issue with Modern is due to the age of the sets because some of the most expensive cards are from Innistrad (the block that came out before RtR (which is the block that starts Pioneer)). The accessibility issue really has everything to do with WotC's refusal to meaningfully reprint modern staples.

    Extended+ is a quality answer to the problem but it would never take hold because people *hate* rotating formats.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    [quote from="Shadow345 »" url="/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/814748-the-pioneer-format?comment=55"]Why Wizards of the Coast doesn't feel the need to officially discontinue Modern in favor of Pioneer is anyone's guess.


    For the same reason they did not discontinue Vintage when Legacy came about, or discontinue Legacy & Vintage when Modern came about. You do not need to discontinue formats.
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