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Discard Troll, Dredge 6, Draw a card, Draw two, Discard Grave Troll and Imp.
If you go T1 Looting/T2 Neonate, your draws look like:
Draw two, discard Grave Troll and Imp, Dredge 6, Discard Grave Troll, Dredge 6, Imp in GY T3.
The first option is only better if there is a dredge card in the first six cards in library or if there is a Narcomoeba and Prized Amalgam in your top 6.
I won't run the numbers (on mobile atm), but the second option presents greater consistency while the first one risks stranding you with no dredgers for your turn 2 draw with a chance of flipping almost a third of your library before your T3 (if your first Dredge 6 flips three Trolls or Imps).
But yeah, I don't think you're close anymore. I did say you were at L-3 but I got ninja'd by Proph., so you might have 4 now, not two, if I made a mistake just now but was right earlier.
Last official vote count was
Ghosting (5): Brinatoo, Prophylaxis, not_a_gimmick, Bloscovi, Silvercrys3467
Then I moved to Seppel, Proph Unvoted, imabusinessman got on.
So now it should be
Ghosting (4): Brinatoo, not_a_gimmick, Bloscovi, imabusinessman
I guess. So L-4.
Rest up, we'll be here when you get back.
@Mod/Iso: Is Matowar77 on V/LA? If not, can you prod him? Last post was ~9 PM on the 12th
As for the whole "didn't counter claim Kraj" thing, I would have bought that you didn't counter claim him because you didn't notice he had the same name as you, or something like that. This thing about you looking into the flavor and deciding there might be two Siberian Guards reeks of scum trying to play off getting caught using the same fake claim. Although the whole "I didn't want to lose my cover by admitting I false claimed" is a thing, you ended up admitting it anyway while under the same amount of pressure as you were when you false claimed in the first place! Actually, even less pressure because the vig already shot.
And like imabusinessman said, there's no guarantee that there even is a Doctor this game. Especially if Seppel and Hunger are both town (somehow), they can pass their items and act as a psuedo Doctor that way.
So, yeah. Sorry if you're town, man, but really.
@TappingStones:
I'm fine with Seppel or Ghosting today. Ghosting made his own bed here, and there will never be a better case than the one on him right now unless someone he's been buddying with flips scum or something. I think asking to confirm Seppel's claim is fair, and I won't hold you responsible for Ghosting if he flips scum.
Unvote
Vote: Seppel
I will strongly consider hammering Ghosting if he gets enough votes because it will help me confirm Atog's alignment on top of everything else, so don't run him up to L-1 unless you want him dead (He's currently at L-3).
I mean, there's a chance he's fooled me if scum got fake claims or something, but we won't know that unless we lynch Ghosting. If Ghosting flips scum he tried to use the same fake claim as Kraj and got caught red handed. I'll have to reevaluate Atog at that point because Iso might be screwing with me.
With Bloscovi, it's just a feeling I got from the back-and-forths we've had since I replaced in. His case on Ghosting doesn't meet your approval, I know, but I think it's town-on-town at worst. I don't think he was hard bussing him.
Proph is a bit... I don't know. I've been waffling on moving him to lean town or null, but ultimately he just doesn't seem scummy to me. I mean, he seems like less likely scum than the players I have lean town or null. I could be wrong! I absolutely could be. Could be wrong on Blos as well.
So, yeah. I don't have a solid town tell on either of them. I suppose I could do PBPAs on them to show you what I think their mindset is at each point, but ultimately neither of them are in danger of being lynched at the moment and I don't see the point in exerting that much effort when I've already made up my mind to not vote them at the moment. I'll be rechecking all alignments D2 after the lynch + night kills for interactions if that makes you feel better.
Ultimately the only people I'm dead set against lynching are Atog and Mindreaver. Everyone else is fair game based on interactions and behavior.
If Blos and Proph have been playing scummy, feel free to make a case. To this point it is extremely scattered (I just went through the most recent half of your iso to see if you ever laid it out) and sometimes you waffle on Proph and wonder what it means for Blos's alignment if Ghosting flips scum, stuff like that. If you want Blos to be the lynch, tell us why his play is scummy, don't just point out that it is. Maybe you're seeing things no one else is. But I think we have two wagons already and you'll probably have a hard time making him the lynch over Ghosting or Seppel.
From my POV, anyway.
You might want to unvote and revote, Ghosting, last vote count has you on Atog still.
If he's the doctor, it's unfortunate but he did it to himself by false claiming.
Or he scum slipped and IMAB caught him admitting the scum got fake claims.
There's also the little thing where everyone else with power roles has claimed a character name. Nothing about any of his claims lines up except that he's claiming whatever he can to get out of the lynch.
But I'll lynch either of them, the cases are both good. At this point, I think they're scum together, and Seppel was one of the people town clearing Ghosting based on meta.
I would still support the Seppel wagon today but Ghosting has botched every claim he's made this game. It's incredibly difficult to figure out what's going on when we're catching him in something new every other page. I'd rather just... not deal with it. If he's the doctor, he shouldn't have gambited.
Ultimately, I'd lynch either of them. My vote's on Ghosting right now, partly because Seppel is V/LA so my vote puts no pressure on him.
Is there a chance the town wagons are split on scum and the scum are on Atog since he seemed like an easy lynch?
I mean, obviously there is a chance, but is it likely?
Problem with coordinating with Seppel is one, he's probably pissed at us and two, he's V/LA until the deadline. I'd be willing to let him live to pass (on probably N2), I guess, but I don't know who to lynch in the mean time. Maybe Brinatoo if Ghosting flips town, but I can't honestly say I blame him.
@Ghosting:
Seppel can wait until tomorrow. Your very existence is a pain in the ass because we'll never know if we can trust you until you're dead.
I hope you're scum, but I don't actually care at this point.
Unvote
Vote: Ghosting