To be clear, Staff decided that Mafia would no longer be part of their community and this was not something that was negotiated with us beforehand. We would have been more than happy to join everyone else on Nexus if we had a space to move our community to.
No hard feelings of course, wish you guys the best at the new place.
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I do prefer the MU vote counter/history features but I do without them here and at DLP where I've played occasionally (I... actually have a spreadsheet rigged to give me basically the same info, I can just keep using that tbh)
I guess my thing is, what do we suppose the fraction of each player base interested in long phase games is that isn't already playing here? Even if it's lopsided like 10% of MC and 1% of MU we'd get more players on MU just from the sheer size of it; and given the amount of crossover and cross-recruiting that goes on between us and MC I have a feeling there aren't many MC regulars who haven't at least heard of us
The community is obviously also a consideration, MU I wouldn't say is unfriendly but it is more of a loose amalgamation of players passing through than a tight knit group of players who all play together a lot
I think the only thing better about Xenforo is the reduced script load (not nothing!)
As far as actual forum features I think Curse is preferable (except on mobile where it barely even works if you try to do anything other than quick reply)
I'm not sure that actually posting sign ups and moving MtGS games there would be welcomed by them or advisable even if it was, tbh
I've spectated and played with a handful of CFC players, if they're posting signups in their own forum again (even if it's just in Partnered Communities on MU) it might be worth reaching out to them (I've no idea what their current game style is like though)
I think Cuthalion is from there (or theOrg, my memory is a bit fuzzy in the subject)
I just meant we could all decide to play somewhere else and start playing/designing games there not take it over, if that's more clear
He uh, overexerted himself playing wolf in a mash a while ago and is semi-retired now
Similarly, SmashBoards I'm only vaguely aware of as a place Osie has hosted games before because he asked me to replace into a game a while back
I was mainly just listing examples of places we haven't specifically been invited to but that we could just all decide to start playing games at, in theory lol
He's also, you know, actually a mod there
We were invited by a few other sites when it appeared the site closure was imminent, but uh. I've not made it a secret I don't really like Mafia451's software, for example. I've used too harsh words for it in the past, their site is excellent overall and the admins are friendly enough it's just not my cup of tea personally (or most of yours, I'd imagine; the site is set up more like a discord server with real time posts and branching discussion threads than a traditional forum)
We could theoretically just show up en mass to SmashBoards or MafiaScum or GiantITP "uninvited" and submit our games through their regular queues or something if we wished, I suppose
But, we're losing players by staying here, as well, whether it's new players who can't stand the software limitations we have or old players dropping out for years at a time
Meaning we'd be bringing ~20 players year over year to the site
That isn't nothing, to be sure, just being clear lol
Also, in the interests of full disclosure, I personally prefer the MU vote counter/autohost to the MC tally counter having had a chance to use both; the tally counter isn't a deal breaker or anything, but the autohost keeps track of the full vote history and has a lot of powerful built in vote analysis tools that I either couldn't find or don't exist on MC.
Any continuation of our own separate yearly awards and such would have to be specifically for the partner community subforum, though, and any privileged council communication would have to occur on Discord or via PM since we wouldn't have a hidden subforum any more
Eta: it may also be too taxing on our game hosts to host both long phase games on the main forum and games in our partner subforum
Edit2: the queue manager position for the long phase subforum and any council position in the Salvation Mafia subforum would also likely diverge with time
They will set up a new subforum called "long phase games" where one cycle is 5/2 minimum
The queue for that subforum will be managed by one of us, and games we currently have queued will be placed into the queue in whatever order we wish and will run first
We may be permitted to place someone from the Mafia Council on the MU moderation team
The "council" as such will be dissolved/have no official power as far as that subforum is concerned; the queue manager position will be subordinate to the regular MU hierarchy just like the others are
This was almost three years ago now and I haven't spoken directly to anyone in the MU administration team about it recently though
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Separately, there is a Partner Communities subforum where we can run things basically however we want and keep the council, etc. if we want to do that unrelated to the Long Phase subforum.
The big problem with that is games there aren't advertised and sign ups spread only by word of mouth, but it would also allow us to keep things basically as they are with a smaller community, etc.
He made the form
Link to the google form for voting
Thanks again for participating!
If there are any questions please let me know!