To be clear, Staff decided that Mafia would no longer be part of their community and this was not something that was negotiated with us beforehand. We would have been more than happy to join everyone else on Nexus if we had a space to move our community to.
No hard feelings of course, wish you guys the best at the new place.
The point is, I want at least a reads list from him whether he's scum or not.
If he's scum I don't want him to self hammer and end the day early.
If he's town I don't want scum to hammer him and end the day early.
Also, no, I don't think shadow is scum.
And but I'm basically the only person fighting it, everyone else is either hard scumreading him or hasn't said much about him.
You could've stayed on him.
Like. That's why I unvoted.
If you want to lynch him go ahead.
I'd just rather not have him at L-1 until he says some stuff.
Otherwise he could self-hammer or something.
unvote
I don't want him at L-1. He owes us a reads list at least.
unvote
vote: Mindreaver
I just wanted to lynch tom and he was off wagon with Seppel on the AG lynch so I stopped there.
re: zen I wasn't really scum reading him, he was just kind of in the PoE by default.
I'm not really town reading him but he's not really scummy either?
Like, if it's only one of them it's probably Mindreaver.
He just looks worse in iso.
But they could be scum/scum if it's not both of tom/Seppel.
Or the third could be someone else I'm townreading like Rodemy.
I don't know.
But I do know there's almost no chance that whole wagon is town and one of them is probably scum.
And since Mindreaver looks worse I'm fine with starting there.
You're right, I don't think that entire shock wagon is town.
If it must be between shadow and Mindreaver I lynch Mindreaver.
Because I'm like 99% on shadow being town and Mindreaver hasn't done much of anything yet.
But outside of that, it ~could be Zen.
It's really between him and Mindreaver for me.
Though after rereading Zen's iso, I guess I'd rather lynch Mindreaver than him too.
Alright. I goofed.
But you're right.
It's probably Mindreaver.
I think he's at L-2 or I'd move my vote.
@Mindreaver:
If you're scum, I'm gonna be a little upset with myself.
Could I get a reads list, and whatever other thoughts you have on the game?
At your earliest convenience.
@Shadow:
Talk to me about your zen scum read.
Because, well, I don't really see it myself.
Is it a hard scum read?
Is it just because he's being difficult? What makes that scummy as opposed to NAI?
Vaimes has confirmed that it's outside his scum meta, especially on a new site. Does that affect your read at all?
I admit he's rubbed me the wrong way a bit but I don't think it's necessarily scummy.
And I just made a kind of big post about mindreaver.
If you have any questions feel free.
But basically any thought I've ever had about a player in the game is in one of my posts.
I don't have much else to say.
On another note, I did receive a partial ability list from Seppel.
Will do wagons closer to end of night when I get some time.
I don't see that changing regardless of shadow's flip.
But lynching shadow is terrible idea.
I can't stop you, but I'm saying it again.
Like, I get it. You have conviction in your reads. But you're wrong. I don't know how else to tell you that. It's written everywhere in the thread for you to see. I literally don't know what else I can do or how else I can say it. If this was bussing there would be conviction. At least fake conviction. Because I would know he was scum. I don't, so I have no conviction in the read. Like, tom and Vaimes are assuming I'm pro scum, and you're assuming I'm terrible scum. It's not even entered any of your minds that you might be wrong.
Sorry, but you are.