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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    He's claiming he has a repeatable kill but can't win unless he personally kills or participates in the execution of at least three of his five targets

    If they die but he didn't help it doesn't count.

    Unless I misunderstood
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I mean

    Five target hitman is almost always like, 1/5 or 2/5 wolves

    But if you don't know their flavor names I question the purpose of the role at all

    reviewed by DV and Osieorb
    Ah yeah okay that checks out dot dot dot
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    So you're a hitman with an unknown target list?

    .....
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Gonna be really bummed if Az tried to come back and rolled wolf for a third game in a row and that's why he hasn't posted

    Whisper should claim his wincon on threat of being the default exile, on the presumption that he's actually just a serial killer
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Rhand »
    Dropping the gimmick for now because it keeps me from posting when I have little time to post and that’s not productive.
    I also felt like GJ / Wisp was theatre. That’s why I first called them out. But I came back from that and thought it’s scum!Wisp interacting with town!GJ. That unvote from Wisp to vote Highroller for no reason though... yuck and might point to him being done with the distancing. I might have cleared GJ too quickly.
    The interaction between Wisp and Chad also feels off.

    baseline is that I am pretty much sold on Wisp and his interactions might point to Chad and GJ but those aren’t worth pushing until Wisp flips.
    Hum
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Wouldn't that require the mindset of "would Wisp/GJ make these posts as a wolf"?
    "Would" versus "could" is pretty similar to the distinction I was making before, actually

    "Could they be partners" is almost always trivially yes, "would they post those to each other as wolves" invites you to think about how often they are (or aren't) partners and what might make them post like that as various alignments, how the posts might be different, etc.

    I think my "how often is that wolf theater" framing has a similar effect but your mileage may vary, I suppose
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Vaimes »
    I made a couple posts about it, and so did Cuth.

    Do you have a useful opinion on Bur?
    I'll go back and look for those later, I probably missed them while skimming

    I don't even have a not-useful opinion on Bur at the moment
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Hi Vaimes

    I'm sure you've talked about it but you could you tell me about your cantrip read

    I have ~no opinion on him
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    There is a certain irony to claiming not to care about meta but appealing to meta as a defense, I think

    Maybe you could quote the posts you think you never make to him if you're partners and I can tell you why I disagree

    Or we could agree to status quo ante, I'll keep grilling Chad about why he felt like mentioning I exist but wasn't interested enough to ask me a question or comment on my posts and you can keep on eye on my "coasting" or whatever
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Because I just did and there isn't nearly enough "die scum!" for johnny to be claiming they're never partners here, imo
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Someone relatively neutral iso johnny and wisp for me and tell me whether you think that's always, sometimes, often, or never wolf theater
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck

    I often find "is X capable of making this/these post/s as a wolf" to be not just unhelpful but misleading

    Generally, anyone is capable of making any particular post as any alignment, at least in a vacuum

    The question, therefore, shouldn't be "could Killjoy make these posts as a wolf?" but rather "is Killjoy a wolf who is making these posts?"

    A subtle but important distinction; I'm leaning towards "no" at the present moment


    He was actually a serial killer that game, so incredibly misleading. I swore he was mafia, but that was Bur.

    Also, lol at thinking of all the people I could push, I as a wolf would try to push someone being almost universally town read as a potential wolf read. Blah Blah WIFOM, I know.
    I have seen wolves push against the grain precisely so they could make this argument later, yes

    Particularly near the beginning of a phase when wagons are far from settled and your vote matters less because you don't "need" to secure a mis-exile or use it to kill a partner for towncred or whatever

    I'm not saying I'm locked into you being a wolf but like, do you really not see where I'm coming from at all here?
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  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    I often find "is X capable of making this/these post/s as a wolf" to be not just unhelpful but misleading

    Generally, anyone is capable of making any particular post as any alignment, at least in a vacuum

    The question, therefore, shouldn't be "could Killjoy make these posts as a wolf?" but rather "is Killjoy a wolf who is making these posts?"

    A subtle but important distinction; I'm leaning towards "no" at the present moment
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Slothful »
    Wisp and Johnny are wolf partners
    How do you see a partnership here?
    You said 'kids gloves' but I don't know what you mean by that. (I know what the term means, I just don't see how it translates here.)
    Shrugs

    I agree with Tammy that their interaction felt weird; I think it would explain the weirdness if they're fighting each other without actually trying to get the other killed
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Realm of the Elderlings Mafia: Day 1 - Murmurs through Buck
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    vote: chadmd
    I endorse this vote
    You could come with me

    You'll learn things you never knew you never knew
    Posted in: Mafia
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