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Quote from Vaimes »I don’t know what the votecount is at but with that Cantrip popin, the Day is pretty much over. Unvote, vote KK
Quote from Cantripmancer »At the ER because my wife's appendix just ruptured.
Quote from tomsloger »Quote from Lastwhisper »@Silver [0-1 in [tom, Emiko] (probably 0)] explain this? this whole case on Tom, and one little micro read changes everything? in a world where Tom is a wolf, and KK is not a hit, what else would he be doing? to answer that, there are many things honestly but either way it doesnt mattter, KK always needs to die here from the way hes playingi mean i can answer that. Because it should absolutely be 0 in [me/emiko] in the scumcantrip/townkk&megs world hes talking about so really thats still him scumreading me ridiculously imo
Quote from Lastwhisper »@Silver [0-1 in [tom, Emiko] (probably 0)] explain this? this whole case on Tom, and one little micro read changes everything? in a world where Tom is a wolf, and KK is not a hit, what else would he be doing? to answer that, there are many things honestly but either way it doesnt mattter, KK always needs to die here from the way hes playing
Quote from Silvercrys3467 »Quote from unofficial vote count »KoolKoal (6): vezokpiraka, Rhand, KittyCupCake, Lastwhisper, KoolKoal, Megiddo Megiddo (3): Cantripmancer, Killjoy, Vaimes Cantripmancer (2): tomsloger, EmikoYuriemoto tomsloger (1): Silvercrys3467 Not Voting (0)
Quote from unofficial vote count »KoolKoal (6): vezokpiraka, Rhand, KittyCupCake, Lastwhisper, KoolKoal, Megiddo Megiddo (3): Cantripmancer, Killjoy, Vaimes Cantripmancer (2): tomsloger, EmikoYuriemoto tomsloger (1): Silvercrys3467 Not Voting (0)
Quote from Cantripmancer »Quote from shadowlancerx »@Silver: it doesn’t feel like a walk back, but I’ll grant there’s not really much there to say either way.Popping in to add that I would probably expect scum, when asked to clarify that question, would be more likely to go "1, maybe more" rather than "1, possibly 0". Barring multiple buddies in Vaimes/Silver/KCC, I guess, but I agree with Shadow that it's a townie response and I like Emiko for it. Unvote More tomorrow.
Quote from shadowlancerx »@Silver: it doesn’t feel like a walk back, but I’ll grant there’s not really much there to say either way.
Quote from Killjoy »Quote from shadowlancerx »Quote from Silvercrys3467 »@shadow: why is that post by Emiko townie?Because instead of saying exactly one, and locking that group down, he’s saying up to one, which has an entirely different connotation. Exactly one is super useful for false clearing/chain lynching/whatever, whereas up to one reads more like someone making a genuine situation read. @KCC: technically Vaimes did participate, just didn’t vote, is that something you specifically think comes from a scum mindset more often/do you assess it based on player? I feel like this is a bit premature, actually. It's possible that 'exactly one' just didn't occur to him. I make this point because I'm getting newb vibes from him, so it's certainly more possible than not that he didn't think it through when he answered that. I therefore think that this is not a good reason to townread him at this stage. @Cantrip: You can weigh in here too since you made the same point.
Quote from shadowlancerx »Quote from Silvercrys3467 »@shadow: why is that post by Emiko townie?Because instead of saying exactly one, and locking that group down, he’s saying up to one, which has an entirely different connotation. Exactly one is super useful for false clearing/chain lynching/whatever, whereas up to one reads more like someone making a genuine situation read. @KCC: technically Vaimes did participate, just didn’t vote, is that something you specifically think comes from a scum mindset more often/do you assess it based on player?
Quote from Silvercrys3467 »@shadow: why is that post by Emiko townie?
Quote from Cantripmancer »Killjoy, Emiko mentioned their experience, didn't sound like a complete noob. Even as a noob, though, I wouldn't expect inexperienced scum to put forth a "1 in x/y/z" and then upon cross-examination go "or could be zero". Newer scum from what I've observed are more likely to amp up the possibilities of others being scummy than not unless they're receiving flak. Not a guaranteed read for me, but Emiko's continuing to make ok-ish-to-good posts.
Quote from Cantripmancer »Quote from Megiddo »"up to one" - I haven't put any thought into it, no. But somebody's logic is off. shadow's or yours maybe, where you say that "exactly one" would be scummy, because it encourages chain lynching, but "up to one" doesn't—despite there not really being any less chain lynching potential there. I can't ask Shadow but I can ask you: why is "up to one" NOT a scum response? (side note that silver asked a good question about it being a walkback) ((side note that i don't think anybody asked WHY emiko had that opinion))I didn't say that saying "exactly one" would be scummy. I said that I would expect scum to be more likely to say "1, maybe more" rather than "1, possibly 0". The former response pushes the likelihood that at least one is scum (hence, on at least a subconscious level, encouraging lunching all three to find the scum among them), while the latter does absolutely nothing (afaict) to further a scum agenda. Show me how "1, possibly 0" furthers Emiko's agenda as scum and I'll reconsider. (Yes, it could have been a walkback, but I didn't get that impression.)
Quote from Megiddo »"up to one" - I haven't put any thought into it, no. But somebody's logic is off. shadow's or yours maybe, where you say that "exactly one" would be scummy, because it encourages chain lynching, but "up to one" doesn't—despite there not really being any less chain lynching potential there. I can't ask Shadow but I can ask you: why is "up to one" NOT a scum response? (side note that silver asked a good question about it being a walkback) ((side note that i don't think anybody asked WHY emiko had that opinion))
Quote from tomsloger »Ok lets try again Cantrip admits its NAI if theres 1 scum in the 3. That doesnt come up at all while he uses it to call emiko town or attack megs. Thus, its a read of convenience rather than a thing hes considering. Further theory: if cantrip is, in fact, scum this may have been caused by TMI. As stated (quite clearly in 975 i thought which is why that being your question is strange) that isn't why hes scum its a conclusion
Quote from tomsloger »Oh wait i understand now. Confusing sentence.I'd feel less like one of the two perspectives would be more likely. Ok i currently think youre scum which would make silver likely town vote cantrip
I'd feel less like one of the two perspectives would be more likely.