This does not belong here.
Wizards and any affiliated companies, organizations, stores etc need to stay out of politics. What one gamer does is not the business of a franchise and their product has nothing to do with the behavior of single people.
Wizards getting involved, this website getting involved and others continuously commenting on this and getting involved is what is destroying not just this society but even the American one with the larger more political events.
There will always be sexism and racism what people need to do is stop being hyper sensitive and stop coddling wounds and focusing on the predators. Christine Sprankle lost when she stepped out of the community. Rather than just stick up for herself publicly or take it to court and use out judicial process available she simply gave up and whined about it.
This is a far deeper issue in not just this community but society. She expects us to do things for her, defend her, and react to her "sorrow"
This is the problem. People need to learn to grow a thick skin and defend themselves appropriately.
And wizards apologizing for things like the garruk and lili art coddles this childish behavior.
We cant even have our FU**ing game bc people are too sensitive. The hyper sensitivity and need to coddle those with these ideals seeps not only inot our game but into star wars and now marvel comics with their female iron man and captain america.
Its frustrating to see these companies getting involved in these ideals rather than staying true to their fans and the game/story.
This is the same for this website. We dont care about opinions anymore. State your opinions ONCE and move on. STOP lingering on emotions and the same thing and move on. Jeremy is so guilty of this i mean his videos are 20 minutes long because he rattles on about the same shi*.
He is out of hand and offending ppl unnecessarily but on the flipside others need to stop being offended and move on. And we must all recognize that he does have a point on the leftist philosophies seeping into our games and hobbies and that is very frustrating.
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Possibly Splinter twin? Preordain?
Maybe artifact lands?
Banning veil of summer would be nice too.
wouldnt be too crazy to see a tron piece go too.
player A: dislikes liberal views and viewpoints thus believes anything that can be seen as virtue signaling is an attempt to pander and gets very annoyed.
Player B: says “this product isnt for you”
on the other side
Player A: dislikes conservatives views and viewpoints thus believes anyone associated with those views are mean or hateful and shouldnt be associated with the game.
Player B: Says “that artists product isnt for you”
Or how about
Player A: dislikes the patronizing direction the game has taken thus complains about it
Player B: says “this game isnt for everyone.”
on the flipside
Player A: is of a minority group and whines about no representation
Player B: says “this game isnt for everyone”
now please, where is false equivalence? Its very true that you guys only defend your political viewpoints and are only inclusive to those who you deem worthy. Thats all im saying.
God forbid we say
“I hope theres a secret lair with male characters only”
Or we are incels, or sexists or whatever. Its just severely hypocritical of you all to do that.
“Not all products are for all players!”
“You dont have to buy it!”
“This product isnt for everyone!”
Where were you guys when Therese Nielson was getting shat on? Did anyone of you say her art’s not for everyone? Or did you at least support her and tell people to just ignore her art or any of that? Or that she was entitled to her opinion? I didnt see any of you support her right to her opinion in the discussions of it. None of you had the sentiment of “its not for everyone” but how come you do now?
did any of you tell that girl that cried about garruk beat up liliana that this games isnt for everyone? Or that that card isnt for everyone?
what about when ppl start crying about not being included? Did you tell them that the game is not for everyone?
You see the very clear bias here. This game had none of that and many of you cried about it not being as inclusive enough years back. You cried about too many white males and the women were “objectified” etc etc well why didnt you realize then that this game wasnt for you? Or that you didnt have to buy the product? No, you kept complaining pushing and pushing until finally the game changed to include you.
But now that you’ve gotten your way you have the verve to tell players who have played for 15+ years that the product isnt for everyone, how can say with a straight face “this isnt for everyone” when others have complaints.
Well im here to tell you we’re going to keep complaining and we are all going to keep seeing the game decline just as it did last year as they pushed all sorts of crap out their doors and continued to show us incompetency of the highest order as well as shallow and patronizing inclusivity that really made you all froth at the mouth.
California is a mess. I have alot of family there and its very clear what these types of politics has done to that state yet many seem to vehemently defend this push instead of stepping back and recognizing that all this empathy has lead to alot of poor decision making. I agree many people do need help that is for sure. Someone always needs help and that will be a fact for as long as humanity exists.
And im not thinking youre insinuating anything you just said it yourself. You believe the kids or that system deserves more money because they are in a bad position. So theres that but again that money would go to making a MEASURABLE difference IE school performance, school funding etc etc. I think its interesting you put in details such as "no fault of their own" bc its very important for you that i feel some type of way or that it be known that "theyre unfortunate and its not their fault". Well yea. Things are indeed unfair, life is unfair and no amount of equity work or little card board drawings are going to change that no matter how much you believe that it will. Ill tell you this though its more likely the kids parents faults than the fault of that white privileged guy across town who you want to tax for that extra money though.
To further show how this whole "equity" concept doesnt apply here is that very famous or infamous illustration of equity where the 3 individuals are watching a baseball game and two cannot see over the fence thus they are given boxes to ensure they can. We've all seen it. The reason that doesnt apply here is very simple and goes back to what I said. measurability.
How many "boxes" will women have to recieve until they can see over the fence? Who determines when women have been empowered enough in the game? You? Then who decides what group will need empowerment next? This is why this whole idea doesnt work. You have warped what actual equity means which in real life circumstances are measurable due to the environmental/external circumstances that allow for the measurement to take place. In the illustration that would be the fence line. In kindergarten that would be something like reading level and to reach equity you give the slow readers extra attention/lessons until the whole class is brought up to a specific reading level. So i ask again at what point will the pandering stop? And at what point will men get the same attention? When do women have enough "boxes" under their feet to see over the "fenceline". What about the LGBT community? how many "boxes" do they have or will they get? And the black community? what about hispanics? and native americans?
This is where this whole idea crumbles in my opinion. Why? because you cant please everyone especially the ones inundated with "empathy". That is why you tell me "its not for everyone" when I complain about a product. Well that is definitely the case and ive known that for years and years. MTG is not for is definitely not for everyone and in their mission to make it so they have warped it into the mess it has become and this leads to my next point.
They are mutually exclusive when one is purposefully sacrificed for the other if you need examples of this I can happily provide them.
Back to normal would be focus on the game, focus on the product with a sound plan not a money making scheme or lack of discipline/patience. Focus on building a team based on competency not on reaching some type of "woke" quota. Focus on story line that is composed of quality material not filled with pandering fluff. Focus on character building void of irrelevant clearly political fluff to build "inclusivity". This whole "equity" thing is unreasonable and very obviously flawed. Equity has no end game, there is no measurable amount of "equity" that is sufficient to the "woke" crowd that has taken over this game and you know it. What you mean by equity is advantage or special treatment so dont disguise what youre really asking for. I dont need to be empathetic to anyone. I respect everyone and thats enough. You all are too empathetic, youre drunk with it that no matter what happens youll never be happy with the level on "inclusivity" presented to you and we see this over and over and over especially here in this game. How many more years of this do you need until you say okay thats enough equity? Would it be best if all white males just got erased from the game? Would that be the point where the equity has quelled your empathy?
virtue signaling has its appropriate time and place and WoTC thinks that time is every 4 hours and place is every other set. I dont mind them doing it but like i said they have done so much of it that now even things that are likely innocent is seen as another political pandering ploy especially when they have a very obvious and serious political bias.
Lastly, you have to be somewhat oblivious if you think magic hasnt been suffering in terms of quality for some time now so saying im being "inconspicuously selfish" is being purposefully ignorant of the fact that the game suffers because the focus of the company is where it shouldnt be.
Virtue signaling is a thing though.. everyone likes women, in fact no one had a problem with liliana, nissa, chandra etc etc they were beloved by the fanbase. But its been so long that WOTC has been pandering hard that now any innocent thing is seen as pandering bc people just want the regular game back to normal without all the pandering. And the fact that they have never released a legendary male characters product kind of points to this being another pandering job. If i didnt like women id say it. There's no thin veil here its just getting old at this point.