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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    I know it is not too likely because of R&D's dislike of counterspells but the fact Trophy was printed as is will hopefully indicate that they are at least willing to explore the paradigm of pushed cost with heavy drawback even if it doesn't make it to print soon.

    I don't know what they'd think is drawback enough for 2 mana unconditional counter.

    You lose life equal to the cmc of the countered spell?
    Ramp them like Trophy?
    Enemy draws a card? 2?
    You discard a card? 2?
    Lands used to cast it don't untap next turn? Lands don't untap, period?

    Possibilities are endless. Hooray for BG, here's hoping the other color pairs get good toys too.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Assassin's Trophy
    Lavinia for new Azorius leader! Do it WotC, she's my favorite Ravnican!

    ... or on second thought, don't do it because then Bolas will murder her too ;_;
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from idSurge »
    Quote from javert »
    Back in the day, Extended was the way people would get extra mileage of Standard favorites. It was mostly a "season" format but still awesome.

    They could revive the format so existing Standard players don't get burned out of having their cards rendered useless. Modern-Extended-Standard should be the sanctioned competitive formats while dumping Legacy once and for all. As a still rotating format, Extended doesn't compete with Modern so it would be a far better idea than the damned Frontier proposal from MTGoldfish.


    I dont believe it was Goldfishes idea. I think it was driven by a major vendor in Japan...but whatever.

    Extended would be fine I suppose, but I have to assume that those who are into the Standard churn, like it. Extended may cast a wider net and keep people in for a bit longer if they are the types to drop out of Standard, but I would question how large the 'non-modern, current standard but would only stick for Extended' percentage would be.


    This is true. Frontier originated in Japan through Hareruya, and it works (or worked, haven't kept track) there because of the unique market circumstances of the country - modern stuff is/was extremely scarce, so the new format was conceived both to boost its sales of now-out-of-Standard cards and to give people a more viable/playable alternative to Modern, not to spite Modern but because the country's circumstances were such that going into it wasn't really an option for as much people as would be desirable.

    MTG Goldfish caught wind of it and started to keep track of that and publicize it outside of Japan, but it was not their idea.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from tronix »
    i dont think baleful strix being an colored artifact creature is what holds it back from being printed in a standard set.


    Don't have a source on me right now but as I recall, it's been stated as being too efficient and good at stalling to make it into Standard.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    2-mana creature-type-specific Torpor Orb?
    1 mana?

    Engineered plague seems like the kind of card that would never even enter Standard. It destroys the kind of playstyle that WotC encourages for their flagship format.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Let's Talk About Skalla, Baby!
    I'm going to assume the Gatewatch does not approve of eradicating all civilization from the Multiverse (which naturally includes wiping out most of Ravnica), so we may have a new monogreen antagonist.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on M19 Suncleanser: Did Wizards Goof?
    He also mentioned on Blogatog that poison counters being impossible to remove is at the core of making them feel and be different than just another life total, or something along those lines. Don't have a link to the post right now, but yes, he confirmed (either there or on his column) that he did indeed stop this from targetting yourself specifically to keep it from interacting with your own poison counters.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    Last I remember Price being suggested, people declared it would make Burn Tier 0 and vehemently refused...
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Core Set 2019 Spoiler Discussion Thread
    So, will Alpine Moon finally be enough to counter Tron?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Alpine Moon Mana deprived spoiler
    The hate is strong with this one.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Cheeri0s - Puresteel Equipment Storm
    Quote from Aremihc »
    ATTENTION: The Bird is broken. That is all.



    In all seriousness, T2 wins are EASY with T1 Bird... WOW.


    Could you elaborate a little?
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    Whatever arguments there may be for Force in Modern, it getting into Standard first borders on impossible. MaRo is on the record somewhere in Blogatog specifically stating the scenario that tapping out for your Planeswalker and still being able to protect it through Force is too much for Standard. This means that at minimum any new variant of it would have to be unable to counter spells targeting permanents you control - would people still want and play that?

    Speaking of drawbacks, how far would people be willing to go? 3 life is already cited as too much when referring to Anguished Unmaking
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Full Buy-a-Box information (early delivery, and BAB Promo)
    While certainly possible, it may also be that they specifically did not want this ability to be able to target planeswalkers.

    I'm honestly more annoyed at the fact that they swore off of unique promo cards being unobtainable except for specific events like this after the Nalathni Dragon fiasco, and yet here we are.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 10/02/18)
    (For reference, I'm using MaRo's article on color pie mechanics)

    Let us look at the defining 2-drops of three of the colors in the format, and what they offer that makes them good
    Blue - Snaps - Flash is primary, spells out of graveyard is secondary. - Card Advantage, beats
    Black - Bob - "Devil's Deal" (power at a cost, on permanents - in this case, life for cards) is primary. - Card Advantage, beats
    Green - 'Goyf - "Lhurgoyf" creatures is primary - Ultra-efficient beats

    Let's compare with what we theoretically have for the others
    White - Original Thalia - "Taxing" and First Strike are primary - Beats (I don't know if taxing can be considered card advantage. Mana advantage?)
    Red - Pyro - "Friendly to instants and sorceries" and token generation, are secondary - Beats, Card advantage? (I suppose the token generation counts for that, right?)

    And specifically, the currently banned champion that's more or less accepted as the premier 2-drop of its color
    White - SFM - Tutor for artifacts, and putting artifacts from hand to field, are secondary - Card Avantage (could also list indirect beats)

    Interestingly, two of the three accepted premier 2-drops are primary in their color pie slice, and although his main ability is secondary, a good amount of Snapcaster's power comes from being able to flash him in (would anybody play him without Flash, I wonder?)

    Meanwhile, the red contender for the title is secondary in both abilities just like the accepted-but-for-now-banned white champ... but the white contender, Thalia, is actually primary in her color pie slice. I wonder if there's any truth to be gleaned from all this. I would venture a few comments...

    Due to how Wizards seems to regard SFM, perhaps the answer to "something better than Thalia" will have to come in the form of a new white 2-drop rather than SFM's unbanning.. Going by the currently accepted 3, we should look to what is primary in White to anticipate whether such a thing can exist.

    Just looking through the list, most of what primary white has going for it is very conditional/situational, with "Taxing", "Preventing Action" and "Rules-Setting" appearing to be the ones most likely to be strong on their own. From the secondary in white list (excluding what SFM already had), bouncing directly to library seems to be a good candidate for something really strong, but I can't imagine Wizards ever deciding to put that ability on a 2 cost creature.

    Interestingly, token generation is primary in white but "friendly to instants" isn't even tertiary, so at this point a colorshifted young pyro isn't doable; and even if it were, would anybody play that?

    For what it's worth, the defining element of two of the premier 2-drops currently available (and the banned white one) is card advantage of some sort, which poses an inherent problem since White isn't supposed to get it (perhaps that's part of the reason SFM is so good, and part of the reason why Thalia isn't quite there). A premier 2-drop in white, different from Thalia, would have to do card advantage to become a good contender, and barring color pie breaks or getting creative with the rest of white's colorpie, it feels very unlikely and does not bode well. The other path is for Wizards to print an ultra-efficient beater in White. Something stacked with keywords? I don't know. I suppose we can hold out hope for a colorshifted-Goyf, since the "Lhurgoyf" clause *is* tertiary in white...

    Not gonna go for stuff regarding Red right now. With that said, MaRo is on the record somewhere in saying that if Snapcaster were printed today, it'd be Red. Just imagine the possibilities!
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Phyrexian Scriptures .:. The Look of Sagas
    MaRo is on the record on Blogatog that while it was considered, gameplay with the Sagas was better without them being Legendary.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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