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  • posted a message on MOCS Championship Spoilers Complete
    With cycling clearly being themed in the set, I wonder if the Onslaught cycling lands (e.g. Lonely Sandbar), or Ash Barrens will be printed into Modern?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Name and Number Crunch
    Based on the cards previewed, they aren’t separating new cards from
    reprints. New cards and reprints are ordered together.

    Yeah I noticed that with Prohibit
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Spec/Predictions/hopes
    Quote from krishnath »
    Quote from ironwit »
    huh apparently this set ships in like five weeks? trying to imagine having enough money for this AND War of the Spark

    casually it'd be fun to see the geothermal crevice cycle of lands reprinted plus I remember it being the basis for a weirdo balance deck, and people have been looking at restore balance again recently...


    If they are doing lands among the reprints there are three cycles I would like to see.

    The Mirage Fetchlands as an uncommon cycle (Bad River and friends).
    The Tempest Painlands as an uncommon cycle (Pine Barrens and friends).
    The Homelands tri-lands as a common cycle just to see peoples head explode (Castle Sengir and friends).

    I could see the Invasion block lairs (Rith's Grove and friends) as a cycle of uncommon tri-lands, but I doubt it is going to happen.


    I would rather see a functional reprint of Rith's Grove in standard instead of the typical tap lands. Even if they knock it down to just a dual land that requires a land bounce or sacrifice it. Either way, the Lair's would be nice in Modern and but really hope the Mirage lands make an appearance for pure budget reasons.

    Today I was thinking how this set will age and what risks are present for future reprints in coming sets, because it's the first direct-to-Modern set. First, a set like this is likely to come once a year if it was received well (I have no doubt there are more in the pipeline). It is not priced like a Standard set from what we can tell, so any playable rare or mythic (new-to-Modern or new-to-game) should maintain a high value because the baseprice started high and was injected into a format it was not present in, so demand could bring all copies up in price. Second, the likelihood that a powerful direct-to-Modern card would then go back into a Standard set is low (except for Commons and Uncommons I guess) so EV of the set and playable cards would go up over time. Third, if there is a story to the set (to fill Lore gaps or tangents i.e. Raven Man) you can jump all around time and planes if you really wanted to reprint certain plane specific cards like fetchlands or pay homage to dead characters, oh hello Serra the Benevolent. The story element could be a huge success or flop, but it could temper people's expectations of reprints if say they were not on Zendikar.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Masterpieces
    Maybe they need some sort of digital line to wait in while the person(s) in front complete the purchase. I have done stuff like that for pre-season MLB tickets for a very big Northeast franchise. I would literally refresh every second until I could enter the line. Once there I'm in line and then allowed in once it was my turn to make my purchase.

    They just made a Black Friday sale (big sales day for US companies to cash in on the beginning of Christmas sales right after US Thanksgiving) that more than 12k wanted and they trampled over eBay. They need to funnel the people into the store orderly to avoid overloading the server.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Narset Lock
    Yeah, I fully understand the clock is slow for the two card "lock", hence this would be a low tier deck if it amount to anything. Only defense against early burn spells are counter spells or Leyline of Sanctity in opening hand. Bouncing a land on turn 2 could throw off some decks to get the lock in place. Blue discard would be Piracy Charm, and originally I imagined this deck being UB but felt for the few discard spells I reverted to mono-Blue.

    Howling Mine was originally included but I favored putting a full set of Thing in the Ice for creature defense and a future bounce payoff on the transform. Would consider to back it down to 2 each.
    Gigadrowse could have potential to help stall and cheap spell to remove ice counter. I should put more 1CMC spells to respond when I'm most vulnerable.

    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Narset Lock
    I really digging the uncommon planeswalkers in WAR. I think a couple will see Modern use, especially when I saw Narset, Parter of Veils. Yes it's Modern Leovold, Emissary of Trest. I'm not saying it will be seeing tourney play but throwing out a deck build to lock out the opponent's hand/library. The key combo here is with Teferi's Puzzle Box coming down turn 4, burying the opponent's hand with no cards in hand the next turn.

    The rundown is to play control for the first 2 turns while you set up Narset and Puzzle Box.



    The Rack is a win-con and you can always beat them with Delver if you're able to bounce their creatures back to their hand to be buried. I put Thing in the Ice in here mainly for the transform ability Awoken Horror to bounce all non-horror creatures. This would likely be flipped later in the game once the Puzzle Box has been played.

    T1: land, (Rack, Delver, Spell Pierce, or Serum Visions)
    T2: land, (Thing in the Ice against creature heavy decks, or hold for counter)
    T3: land, Narset
    T4: land, Puzzle Box
    Opponent's hand gets dumped into the library and can't draw any cards since they drew once already from their draw step. Only cards in play are the issue.
    T5: land, bounce, draw, use cycling on Censor if needed. Basically clear way for creature damage or rack damage.

    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Finale of Promise
    If I resolved Doublecast, followed by Finale of Promise targeting Lightning Bolt and Lava spike...that is 12 damage with 5 mana. Or would I need to pick different targets with the copied Finale?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Two Ob Nixilis cards
    Ob Nixilis's Cruelty will likely find a place in my mono-black deck. Great card!
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  • posted a message on No afflict or eternalize
    Quote from Elostirion »
    Does Maro have any credibility? I dont play very often anymore so I dont hear a lot of other opinions but every.single.thing he says is "Ooh, look, we did awesome". Nevermind the fact that what he says we like/dislike does not match anything I've heard, and nevermind that his ratings do not make any sense in context with the criteria he says adds up to them. example: Colored artifacts- these are good, there are no problems, theyre flexible, they can go anywhere and not dominate the meta: storm scale 2. Compared to: vehicles- these are problematic, if theyre good enough to use they dominate the meta. we had to ban some of these. they only work well part of the time, and story wise, theyre kinda pigeonholed. : storm scale 2. (wtf?)

    TL:DR, does everyone else treat Maro like russian news tv? what he actually says is all BS but it gives hints as to the direction the government is moving whether we like it or not?


    Maybe Smile
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  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    I was wondering the same. The video announcement did not mention that, only that they are all new to Modern expect for basics. Are people getting the 50 from what they did in Conspiracy and Battlebond?
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  • posted a message on War of The Spark Trailer
    When would spoilers start approximately for WAR? I see pre-release is April 27/28, so would it be 1st or 2nd week of April? PAX East is March 30th, so I assume a few cards will come out then.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    I'm not expecting uncommon Planeswalkers to be very substantial other than being used thematically for the story and something unique in Limited. Just look at Dominaria's uncommon Legends, they were fine for Limited and outside of that they were consigned to the bulk bin. I expect the same will happen with the uncommon Planeswalkers.

    Except then are are just basically creatures with modal ETB's. Where's the interesting new mechanic there? I really hope it's not just that.


    The real novelty would be it's a Planeswalker turning back into a normal Joe, and not the other way which has been done. I just used a simple mechanic that still fits the story and would not be difficult for a brand new player to understand. You can still interact with them and Shock or ping poor Tibalt preventing him from flipping. Planeswalkers are losing spark and/or dying (however you want to interpret the trailer). Maybe there is another card in the set that will interact with Planeswalkers losing their spark (e.g. flipping). Like an Artifact that gains spark counters for every Planeswalker you flip for some ultimate? That sounds like a gimmick they would try.

    Overall, the Planeswalkers are the marketing gimmick for the set and maybe there will be 1 or 2 constructed gem in the 36.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Every booster will have a planeswalker in WAR
    I don’t think we will see the typical style planeswalker + - abilities for all. I gather the uncommon and maybe rares will work like Sagas but still having loyalty counters that are removed until they lose their spark and turn into just legendary creatures.

    Uncommon Tibalt 1R
    When ~ comes into play and at the beginning of combat, remove a loyalty counter. Deal 1 damage to any target. Loyalty 2. When 0, transform into a 2/1 legendary creature with haste.

    Something like "Fading" from Nemesis so there is a clock on Planeswalkers so they don’t linger very long on the board. It would be flavorful. Flipping or create a token of themselves, what ever is cheaper for WotC I suppose.
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  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    Quote from krishnath »
    There are plenty of nonrare and downshiftable rares from pre-8th edition that are either utility cards or good cards for not just limited, but also constructed. Such as Deep Analysis (which I don't think will appear, it's a wee bit to powerful for modern), Werebear (much more likely), and Exile (also fairly likely), just to name a few.

    I fully expect the commons and uncommons to contain a number of much needed reprints for pauper that would not warp modern, such as Oubliette. I also expect that a few of the commons and uncommons have been culled from the Portal sets, a few of those creatures and sorceries are quite powerful for their cost, and some of them could help certain constructed strategies to reach a higher tier and thus provide for a more varied constructed environment. There are a lot of potential from the early sets of magic for the lower rarities, there are several of the Mirage charms I would not mind seeing again.


    Thats a good point to make. There is likely a handful of impactful Legacy Commons and potential downshifts to common from the early sets that will be welcomed for Pauper, but nothing is coming to my mind that may make a huge impact in Modern (other than Hymn to Tourach which was last seen at Uncommon). I like what Oubliette does and wonder if this will find it's way in a devotion deck in Modern? Rather than what old prints will impact Modern, it's really what downshifts will impact Pauper from this set. I'm sure there are many junk uncommon and rares from pre-8th, that if shifted to common would be playable in Pauper.
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  • posted a message on Modern Horizons (Updated)
    Oh that would indeed be cool, I mean it is clear that there will be not fetch land reprints, but they could really introduce more budget fetches in general.


    Yeah, at this point I'll take any Uncommon cycle to help mana fix multicolor budget Modern whether a Mirage fetch or wedge color from Planeshift. There is always a possibility they create a new land cycle.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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