Quote from FuneralofGod »My problem with LOTV in this deck (and metagame) is just like you said: when she's bad, she's awful. She's near useless against Spirits, Affinity, Tron, and barely a Tribute to Hunger against Burn. She's only ok against Humans but mostly if you're on the offensive. I've played 1-2 copies in quite a few competitive events and I was disappointed to see 90% of the time. I dropped her when I started running manamorphose and haven't looked back. It gives the deck more of a "Exarch Twin" feel than an "Aggressive Jund" feel. It streamlines the approach: disrupt, fatty, protect, lethal
So I've been thinking about this since I have GDS and Goyfs from the old Suicide version, but no LoTV and have been curious if the 4C lists are viable without LoTV? Can I see your list?