Syrenz I like as townie other than the stretchiness of the Terry-Fox-being-dead thing. He is doing his pokey question thing, which is his usual townie MO. And I can definitely check the flavor anyways, so it seems like sketchy flavor cases should be left until tomorrow. I agree about the PM differences being suspect, however.
IMHO, there has to be a scum somewhere in the interdiction roles (SB, RafK, Shibui, lrd [obv not lrd]). People forget that the watcher/tracker duo is usually comparable in power to a traditional cop, so giving a game that much power is simply wrong.
On the other hand, if Zebi is scum, then all bets are off and multiple protective roles is much more likely.
On the discussion about Zebi being scum, I do find the lack of protest about the watcher being a tracker somewhat fishy. If his role does work as claimed (which I would like a better explanation on), Buranri being another tracker should have prompted a counterclaim, or at least pushback.
I fail to follow the reasoning on bman being not scum tho. He voted for clearer reasons, which does show more mental consistency than Zebi's record, but I'm not sure there's anything particularly townie about it.
Ok, harm past, I'm basically a flavor cop. I target someone at night and am told their name. Flavor is something about a vast knowledge of Canada and legislative powers.
Buranri is indeed Maple Syrup and RafK is indeed Snow, although I don't know their official titles. I just get the name.
I find both Stormblind's claim and lack of action improbable, and still find the double doctor/NK immune situation difficult to believe, especially with an (apparent) full suite of investigative roles and no NKs to date.
I would like a better explanation of Zebi's ability, but where there is a watcher, there is usually a tracker.
Buranri makes sense as a protect and as a scum NK target. It's strange that you wouldn't be roleblocked though, because if you are a real doc scum knows this and it would be stupid to target Buranri knowing he's an obv protection choice without blocking you. It's also weird that we would have 2 full doctors and a NK immune person, especially in a game like this where there has been no kills at all and there's no sign of a vig or SK. This is confusing. I shall meditate on this.
/barn, except I don't have too much problem saying that I find 2 docs highly implausible.
Fine with massclaim, not that an objection would halt it.
I have role-related reasons for preferring to go later in the claim, but I'm fine claiming now if a majority wills. It likely invalidates my ability, however.
Played against the Cutthroat at the pre-re, and it really is an absolute beating. Easily the pick here, although Vendetta is awesome in this format as well.
FTR, I don't think I've ever actually heard a townie say anything about proving his townieness. And I do actually think that's a big enough tell to seriously revise my opinion of jobo. It does nothing to change the fact that gleng is the correct lynch today, but I would not be opposed to having him shot.
Eeeeh, I fail to be convinced on AK. You do realize tunnel vision is much more common to townies than to scum, don't you?
IMHO you shouldn't vig anybody, but should you do so, I advocate knocking out one of the non-entities who is impossible to get a read on, but will never be shot (I'm thinking gleng, on that one) or AE, who I absolutely can't help but read as scum.
FTR Buranri already claimed. We don't really have a whole lot more to do, and the case is quite strong, compounded with the PM wording differences drawn out earlier.
I find TACKY's claim and kill highly probable.
Fine with voting Buranri once we decide to move on.
I know what's he's getting at, but it really doesn't matter. Charm did make it pretty clear, although it amuses me that he just cut-and-pasted from somebody else's stuff earlier.
IMHO Jobo is a huge distraction, and I would actually strongly prefer if you would shut up a bit with the spammy little posts and stop dominating the conversation.
I need to re-read some, but I strongly dislike AE at the moment.
I have no reason to believe that a smart individual like lrd would out himself on day 1 for a single possible mislynch. It's day 1, mislynches are common anyways.
I would much prefer a Buranri lynch over a Lrd lynch.
Did you read LOTR II?
I've toyed with a couple roles which would make lrd 100% sure that Buranri is lying, and short of him being another watcher, I haven't come up with anything which would give me that much surety. At this point, I want him to claim.
Or we can just lynch NA for being opportunistic in every way possible and let this sort itself out as we go.
Am more than slightly confused with the current situation, and I'm personally not excited about lynching Buranri without lrd actually claiming. How 100% is your 100%, and does it hinge on Buranri being an actual watcher instead of a mistaken tracker?
Still strongly dislike the fact that RafK is resisting claiming. It's going to happen eventually, and I see no compelling reason we should wait for lrd to resolve it.
IMHO, there has to be a scum somewhere in the interdiction roles (SB, RafK, Shibui, lrd [obv not lrd]). People forget that the watcher/tracker duo is usually comparable in power to a traditional cop, so giving a game that much power is simply wrong.
On the other hand, if Zebi is scum, then all bets are off and multiple protective roles is much more likely.
On the discussion about Zebi being scum, I do find the lack of protest about the watcher being a tracker somewhat fishy. If his role does work as claimed (which I would like a better explanation on), Buranri being another tracker should have prompted a counterclaim, or at least pushback.
I fail to follow the reasoning on bman being not scum tho. He voted for clearer reasons, which does show more mental consistency than Zebi's record, but I'm not sure there's anything particularly townie about it.
Buranri is indeed Maple Syrup and RafK is indeed Snow, although I don't know their official titles. I just get the name.
I find both Stormblind's claim and lack of action improbable, and still find the double doctor/NK immune situation difficult to believe, especially with an (apparent) full suite of investigative roles and no NKs to date.
I would like a better explanation of Zebi's ability, but where there is a watcher, there is usually a tracker.
/barn, except I don't have too much problem saying that I find 2 docs highly implausible.
Fine with massclaim, not that an objection would halt it.
I have role-related reasons for preferring to go later in the claim, but I'm fine claiming now if a majority wills. It likely invalidates my ability, however.
Again, fine lynching whenever.
And yes, that looks a lot like a scum just claiming his role. I laughed more than a little.
Fine voting whenever we want to move on.
IMHO you shouldn't vig anybody, but should you do so, I advocate knocking out one of the non-entities who is impossible to get a read on, but will never be shot (I'm thinking gleng, on that one) or AE, who I absolutely can't help but read as scum.
I find TACKY's claim and kill highly probable.
Fine with voting Buranri once we decide to move on.
Self-protecting doc is trash claim, that alone is lynch-worthy.
@RafK - You're dumb if you think it's not in the town's best interest to lynch SK's.
IMHO Jobo is a huge distraction, and I would actually strongly prefer if you would shut up a bit with the spammy little posts and stop dominating the conversation.
I need to re-read some, but I strongly dislike AE at the moment.
Did you read LOTR II?
I've toyed with a couple roles which would make lrd 100% sure that Buranri is lying, and short of him being another watcher, I haven't come up with anything which would give me that much surety. At this point, I want him to claim.
Or we can just lynch NA for being opportunistic in every way possible and let this sort itself out as we go.
And I am very near being persuaded that blue is actually a better lynch than Buranri. At the very least, I would be interested in pushing for a claim.
Accordingly Vote: blue_ghost