Hello fellow Shifters, I'm going to Charlotte and this is the basic "help my SB" post. I'm playing a classic build with no omens/chandras and in those 3 flex slots playing 2 Khalni heart and 1 Acidic slime. My current SB is:
2 anger (w 2 main)
2 baloth
2 beast within
1 ruric thar (dudes a house)
1 rec sage
1 crumble to dust
1 pulse or murasa (maybe this should be baloth #3)
1 ancient grudge
1 relic of progenitus
1 Graf cage
1 natural state
1 fracturing gust.
So my main thought on my SB flex is the gust and the 4th anger, possibly try to get my hands on thrun/gaeas revenge as a 1 of to help with the blue control matchups and a nature's claim as another way to deal with affinity/lantern/blood moons? Any ideas are apriciated.
For all those asking about how to deal with control, I have a ruric thar in my board as a 1 of and whenever I've landed him against control/storm I've never lost. By far my favorite card in my sb. Could just be my meta, ymmv.
First time caller long time listener. Yesterday I played two 4 round events at My lgs for the first time with RG scapeshift. I am interested in the Jund list but decided to keep it tried and true before making any changes with the exception of adding 1 blood crypt instead of the 7th basic mountain with two slaughter games in the board bc combo runs rampant at my store. Yeah so my sideboard is not optimized bc I don't have baloths, it was 2 relic, 2 dismember, 2 crumble, 2 slaughter games, 2 ancient grudge, 2 reclamation sage, 1 acidic slime, 1 primal command, 1krosan grip.
R1 I play against a chord deck, I never saw the chord but I saw 3 voice of resurgence that we're chump blocked by Steve until I scapshifted for the win.
G2 he does more of the same but I go off and he chords in response getting a spellskite redirecting two triggers putting him at 1 and he has lethal on the crackback.
G3 I have the complete nuts, t1 stf, t2 2xstf, t3 anger his board, t4 get the kill.
R2 against my friend that I have been playtesting with and he's on abzan, we've tested this match up about 10 times I've won 8 out of 10. I'm feeling good. He's on the play I have a hand of half ramp half land, t4 win if I draw a scapshift, I keep, he goes t1 birds, I go t1 suspend sft, he goes t2 liliana, plus....I try to make land drops and he finds a large goyf and ults. I try to rebuild and cant. I know he's going to bring in extra guys from the board to replace his non path removal. I side 2 dismember 2 relics, take out 2 angers and 2 khe. G2 I'm on the play and suspend sft, he lives the dream with t1 discard, t2 flayer, t3 lili pitching lingering souls, t4 flash them back and then plays ethersworn connonist making the summoners pact in my hand dead, I draw hoping to top deck a scapeshift and wiff.
R3 I play against mardu midrange with a lot of discard and nahiri things. I win g1 off of a top decked summoners pact for titan after already having a valakut on the field with 5 mountains in play and he had taken a lot of damage from fetch shocking and thought seizing,
G2 he hits me with blightning (so spicy I love it) which strips my whole hand putting scapeshift in the yard and he proceeds to extripate the shifts. I endup getting two titans and then with volcano triggers and trample beats get there.
R4 I play against my friend on mono u tron. We are both fighting for the 3-1 to get some modern masters packs. G1 he counters all my ramp and then gets the mindslaver lock on me. G2 I side in like 9 cards everything that says destroy X I bring it in after siding out the bolts, angers, khe, and 1 titan. G2 I manage go get off a scapeshift after he tapped out to cast a wurmcoil. G3 we both fighting hard, he counters some spells I get to blowup a early expedition map. He eot gifts ungiven for a negate, a tron piece, a remand, a expidtion map. I have 7 lands, scape shift, krosan grip, I give him remand and the map, he plays the map, I (bc I'm dumb) cast to krosan grip targeting the map, he says..bro..I haven't passed priority... then proceeds to crack it. I derped, he goes gets the missing tron piece but now only has one blue and a mine up, so I can pay for a condescend but not the remand, I top deck a forest and then cast scapeshift. He looks at his hand for a minute then shakes mine.
I go get some dinner and before the next event
R1 against a buddy who borrowed my Ad Neasuem deck. I know I'm pretty much SOL in this match up he gets g1 on curve, G2 I keep a hand with slaughter games and a krosan grip. He doesn't keep a hand with leyline and I t3 slaughter the namesake and then win, G3 I keep a hand with slaughter but no enchantment removal.. probably a little to sketchy, he t0 leyline and then suspends 2 lotus blooms, I proceed to just ramp and he isn't doing much, at one point he hard cast another leyline which was wise bc I tip decked a summoners pact and got a reck sage to kill one of them. He proceeds to go off the next turn. I'm not happy I lost but I'm glad one of my decks got there lol.
R2 I'm playing against a guy who's just been playing table top magic and thought that a land that taps for colorless taps for any color.... 2-0 in about 10 min, spent the rest of the round helping him try to trim his 100 card deck down to 60.
R3 I'm playing against a guy on abzan life from the loam smallpox shinanigins. G1 I combo faster than he can loam trying to find ghost quarters, G2 he hits me hard with smallpox and lingering souls, he also siphoned spirit me he also played aven mindcensor in response to me casting scapeshift This guy has the best brews.
G3 I get a early slaughter games naming life from the loam and grind out some advantage about to cast titan but he small pox so I'm a land short, I don't draw a land but do draw another games and name smallpox, then get the Titan out and it goes like clockwork.
R4 I split for store credit but we play it out. I'm against GRTron. G1 I have the nuts and he doesn't get the tron online in time and I kill him G2 I stumble bc I have a slaughter games for his Karns but not enough ramp, he natural karn kill a land, followed by next turn the 5/7 that kills a land. G3 I t3 crumble his towers, he looks at his and and says that he glad we split.
Overall 6-2 not that bad I think the lack of obstinate baloths in the sb hindered my first R1 game against abzan. I'm going to test out the Jund list (4 push 2 abrupt decay, 1 overgrown tomb, 1 swamp, over the 4 bolt, 2 anger , 1 forest, 1 fetch (most lists cut another basic mountain but I like my nountians)) this coming week getting ready for a gpt next weekend in SC.
Thanks to this group for play tips and sb guides and sequencing tips. I probably wasn't 100% on point with all the interactions but for the first time out with the deck I have a lot of faith in it moving forward.
So I just tested out gearhulk in my sb as a two of mainly for the elves matchup (there 4 people in my meta with it built but two play it regularly) however, I brought it in against my living end opponent (I didn't see it when it would have helped) but I cast him on an empty board and won that way with good ol 4/5 vigilance beats.
I'm currently on mono white and have been going 3-1 consistently with a 4-0 last night.
I just had two infect decks show up at my lgs one ug and a bg. Has anyone tested out celestial flare for ths matchup or in general?
@joshb thanks for the list after I get a few more cards I'll take it for a test drive and post some results.
I just picked up a set of Giest of St.Traft and was wondering if anyone has had any success with U/W taxes. In my head meddling mage and reflector mage seem broken with eldrazi displacer. Thanks in advance.
I appreciate the feedback. My meta has alot of bring to light and chord decks so I like to max out the search hate but I'll test out the finks. I think if I can get my hands on a Mutavault I would swap my vents for one and the 4th cave. I'll have to ask around to see who has extras. Earlier someone asked about how Displacer was working and I've had nothing but great success with it. I've bounced Etched champion with it after my opponent sac'ed a ravager to give it lethal. He was a little salty.
@mackiefloyd in regards to the marsh flats, I havent had an issue with them although I do understand what your saying. I think currently besides the mutalvault change if i can get one i'll stick with this until the flats end up being an issue.
Hello all, long time lurker, Mono white D&T was my first modern deck and I played it poorly for a few months before being given some splinter twins. That being said I've always had a love for the creatue control deck style and I have been back in the saddle messing with the BW version of the deck. So without further adue -
(This is my latest itteration following the last few local modern FNM's)
This is whats been working in my meta. I've been going 3-1 the last couple of weeks so I'm happy with it. The only issues I ever have are when I get stuck on 2 lands with a handfull of 3 drops but thems the breaks. I think the SB might change if I end up going to a large event.
Long time lurker first time poster. In my meta hallowed moonlight and dawn charm have been allstars for me. With moonlight I've blown out multiple ccompany as well as tooth and nail. Dawn charm has been there to stop infect and against control to save a dude.
2 anger (w 2 main)
2 baloth
2 beast within
1 ruric thar (dudes a house)
1 rec sage
1 crumble to dust
1 pulse or murasa (maybe this should be baloth #3)
1 ancient grudge
1 relic of progenitus
1 Graf cage
1 natural state
1 fracturing gust.
So my main thought on my SB flex is the gust and the 4th anger, possibly try to get my hands on thrun/gaeas revenge as a 1 of to help with the blue control matchups and a nature's claim as another way to deal with affinity/lantern/blood moons? Any ideas are apriciated.
R1 I play against a chord deck, I never saw the chord but I saw 3 voice of resurgence that we're chump blocked by Steve until I scapshifted for the win.
G2 he does more of the same but I go off and he chords in response getting a spellskite redirecting two triggers putting him at 1 and he has lethal on the crackback.
G3 I have the complete nuts, t1 stf, t2 2xstf, t3 anger his board, t4 get the kill.
R2 against my friend that I have been playtesting with and he's on abzan, we've tested this match up about 10 times I've won 8 out of 10. I'm feeling good. He's on the play I have a hand of half ramp half land, t4 win if I draw a scapshift, I keep, he goes t1 birds, I go t1 suspend sft, he goes t2 liliana, plus....I try to make land drops and he finds a large goyf and ults. I try to rebuild and cant. I know he's going to bring in extra guys from the board to replace his non path removal. I side 2 dismember 2 relics, take out 2 angers and 2 khe. G2 I'm on the play and suspend sft, he lives the dream with t1 discard, t2 flayer, t3 lili pitching lingering souls, t4 flash them back and then plays ethersworn connonist making the summoners pact in my hand dead, I draw hoping to top deck a scapeshift and wiff.
R3 I play against mardu midrange with a lot of discard and nahiri things. I win g1 off of a top decked summoners pact for titan after already having a valakut on the field with 5 mountains in play and he had taken a lot of damage from fetch shocking and thought seizing,
G2 he hits me with blightning (so spicy I love it) which strips my whole hand putting scapeshift in the yard and he proceeds to extripate the shifts. I endup getting two titans and then with volcano triggers and trample beats get there.
R4 I play against my friend on mono u tron. We are both fighting for the 3-1 to get some modern masters packs. G1 he counters all my ramp and then gets the mindslaver lock on me. G2 I side in like 9 cards everything that says destroy X I bring it in after siding out the bolts, angers, khe, and 1 titan. G2 I manage go get off a scapeshift after he tapped out to cast a wurmcoil. G3 we both fighting hard, he counters some spells I get to blowup a early expedition map. He eot gifts ungiven for a negate, a tron piece, a remand, a expidtion map. I have 7 lands, scape shift, krosan grip, I give him remand and the map, he plays the map, I (bc I'm dumb) cast to krosan grip targeting the map, he says..bro..I haven't passed priority... then proceeds to crack it. I derped, he goes gets the missing tron piece but now only has one blue and a mine up, so I can pay for a condescend but not the remand, I top deck a forest and then cast scapeshift. He looks at his hand for a minute then shakes mine.
I go get some dinner and before the next event
R1 against a buddy who borrowed my Ad Neasuem deck. I know I'm pretty much SOL in this match up he gets g1 on curve, G2 I keep a hand with slaughter games and a krosan grip. He doesn't keep a hand with leyline and I t3 slaughter the namesake and then win, G3 I keep a hand with slaughter but no enchantment removal.. probably a little to sketchy, he t0 leyline and then suspends 2 lotus blooms, I proceed to just ramp and he isn't doing much, at one point he hard cast another leyline which was wise bc I tip decked a summoners pact and got a reck sage to kill one of them. He proceeds to go off the next turn. I'm not happy I lost but I'm glad one of my decks got there lol.
R2 I'm playing against a guy who's just been playing table top magic and thought that a land that taps for colorless taps for any color.... 2-0 in about 10 min, spent the rest of the round helping him try to trim his 100 card deck down to 60.
R3 I'm playing against a guy on abzan life from the loam smallpox shinanigins. G1 I combo faster than he can loam trying to find ghost quarters, G2 he hits me hard with smallpox and lingering souls, he also siphoned spirit me he also played aven mindcensor in response to me casting scapeshift
G3 I get a early slaughter games naming life from the loam and grind out some advantage about to cast titan but he small pox so I'm a land short, I don't draw a land but do draw another games and name smallpox, then get the Titan out and it goes like clockwork.
R4 I split for store credit but we play it out. I'm against GRTron. G1 I have the nuts and he doesn't get the tron online in time and I kill him G2 I stumble bc I have a slaughter games for his Karns but not enough ramp, he natural karn kill a land, followed by next turn the 5/7 that kills a land. G3 I t3 crumble his towers, he looks at his and and says that he glad we split.
Overall 6-2 not that bad I think the lack of obstinate baloths in the sb hindered my first R1 game against abzan. I'm going to test out the Jund list (4 push 2 abrupt decay, 1 overgrown tomb, 1 swamp, over the 4 bolt, 2 anger , 1 forest, 1 fetch (most lists cut another basic mountain but I like my nountians)) this coming week getting ready for a gpt next weekend in SC.
Thanks to this group for play tips and sb guides and sequencing tips. I probably wasn't 100% on point with all the interactions but for the first time out with the deck I have a lot of faith in it moving forward.
I'm currently on mono white and have been going 3-1 consistently with a 4-0 last night.
@joshb thanks for the list after I get a few more cards I'll take it for a test drive and post some results.
I appreciate the feedback. My meta has alot of bring to light and chord decks so I like to max out the search hate but I'll test out the finks. I think if I can get my hands on a Mutavault I would swap my vents for one and the 4th cave. I'll have to ask around to see who has extras. Earlier someone asked about how Displacer was working and I've had nothing but great success with it. I've bounced Etched champion with it after my opponent sac'ed a ravager to give it lethal. He was a little salty.
@mackiefloyd in regards to the marsh flats, I havent had an issue with them although I do understand what your saying. I think currently besides the mutalvault change if i can get one i'll stick with this until the flats end up being an issue.
(This is my latest itteration following the last few local modern FNM's)
2 Restoration Angel
3 Blade Splicer
3 Leonin Arbiter
4 Flickerwisp
3 Aven Mindcensor
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Wasteland Strangler
2 Eldrazi Displacer
NonCreatures
4 Path to Exile
4 Aether Vial
2 Shambling Vent
1 Swamp
4 Plains
4 Ghost quarter
2 Tectonic Edge
2 Marsh Flats
3 Caves of Koilos
3 Godless Shrine
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Vault of the Archangel
2 Hallowed Moonlight
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Stony Silence
2 Dawn Charm
2 Rest in Peace
1 Disenchant
2 Dismember
2 Mirran Crusader
This is whats been working in my meta. I've been going 3-1 the last couple of weeks so I'm happy with it. The only issues I ever have are when I get stuck on 2 lands with a handfull of 3 drops but thems the breaks. I think the SB might change if I end up going to a large event.