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Quote from Avatarof »Quote from illidqn »Need those characters... [Alara] Asha, Bant Hero Crucius Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker) [Brothers' War] Ashnod, Mishra's Apprentice Hurkyl of Lat-Nam Mishra, Argivian artificer Ratepe, Son of Mideah Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist [Dark Age] Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest Tourach the Dark One [Dominaria] Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker) Commodore Guff (Planeswalker) Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3) Dakkon Blackblade, Shadow Slayer (PlaneswalkerWUB) Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker) Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodR) Gaea, Dominaria's Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodG) Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker) Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage Jeska Ascended (PlaneswalkerWBR) Karona, Dominaria's Avatar (Version 2) Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker) Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari Nevinyrral, Urborg's Necromancer Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (PlaneswalkerUB) Urza, Academy Master (PlaneswalkerWUBRG) Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar) [Eldraine] Syr Branigan, Knight of Ardenvale [Ice Age] Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker B) [Innistrad] Alena, trapper of Kessig Halana, Kessig ranger Unnamed WB Angel sister Vronos the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker) [Ixalan] Adrian Adanto of Luijo Captain Brandis Thorn Emperor Apatzec Intli III Itzama the Crested Queen Miralda the Pious [Kaladesh] Vatti, Shadowblayde [Kamigawa] O-Kagachi, The Great Old Serpent (Version 2) Sisters of Flesh and Spirit [Lorwyn] Colfenor, the Last Yew [Mirrodin] Ushanti, Leonin Seer [Multiverse] Baltrice of the Infinite Consortium (Planeswalker) Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker) The Unluckiest (Planeswalker) [New Phyrexia] Azax-Azog, Demon Thane Kraynox, Deep Thane Roxith, Thane of Rot Thrissik, Writhing Thane Vraan, Thane of Blood [Phyrexia] Belbe, Phyrexian Princess Croag of The Inner Circle Gix, Phyrexian Demon Sitrik, Birth Priest Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodB) [Rabiah] Taysir of Rabiah (PlaneswalkerWUBRG) [Rath] Davvol, First Evincar Takara en-Dal [Ravnica] Azor, Parun (PlaneswalkerWU) Bori Andon Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos Damir, Voidwielder Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster Mat'Selesnya, Parun Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker Ruzi and Kuma Senka, Stealer of Secrets Simic, Parun Svogthir, Parun The Cozen Unknown, Lotleth Troll [Tarkir] Arel, the Whisperer Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander [Thran Empire] Dyfed, Mistress of Portals (Planeswalker) Glacian, Thran Artificer Rebbec, Thran Architect Xod, Thran Healer [Ulgrotha] Baron Sengir, Vampire Lord (Version 2) Feroz, Ulgrotha's Protector (PlaneswalkerWU) Ravi, Grandmother Sengir (Planeswalker) A great list but, I see only about 60% of those coming to fruition, they will probabily hold characters from.Tarkir,New Phyrexia,Ixalan and Alara for future return sets, another sad thing is that only about half will be NEW legends the other half will be 2.0 versions of legends that already had a card, at least that was what mark said on tumblr, and they probably will hold some legends for other supplemental products
Quote from illidqn »Need those characters... [Alara] Asha, Bant Hero Crucius Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker) [Brothers' War] Ashnod, Mishra's Apprentice Hurkyl of Lat-Nam Mishra, Argivian artificer Ratepe, Son of Mideah Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist [Dark Age] Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest Tourach the Dark One [Dominaria] Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker) Commodore Guff (Planeswalker) Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3) Dakkon Blackblade, Shadow Slayer (PlaneswalkerWUB) Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker) Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodR) Gaea, Dominaria's Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodG) Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker) Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage Jeska Ascended (PlaneswalkerWBR) Karona, Dominaria's Avatar (Version 2) Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker) Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari Nevinyrral, Urborg's Necromancer Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (PlaneswalkerUB) Urza, Academy Master (PlaneswalkerWUBRG) Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar) [Eldraine] Syr Branigan, Knight of Ardenvale [Ice Age] Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker B) [Innistrad] Alena, trapper of Kessig Halana, Kessig ranger Unnamed WB Angel sister Vronos the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker) [Ixalan] Adrian Adanto of Luijo Captain Brandis Thorn Emperor Apatzec Intli III Itzama the Crested Queen Miralda the Pious [Kaladesh] Vatti, Shadowblayde [Kamigawa] O-Kagachi, The Great Old Serpent (Version 2) Sisters of Flesh and Spirit [Lorwyn] Colfenor, the Last Yew [Mirrodin] Ushanti, Leonin Seer [Multiverse] Baltrice of the Infinite Consortium (Planeswalker) Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker) The Unluckiest (Planeswalker) [New Phyrexia] Azax-Azog, Demon Thane Kraynox, Deep Thane Roxith, Thane of Rot Thrissik, Writhing Thane Vraan, Thane of Blood [Phyrexia] Belbe, Phyrexian Princess Croag of The Inner Circle Gix, Phyrexian Demon Sitrik, Birth Priest Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodB) [Rabiah] Taysir of Rabiah (PlaneswalkerWUBRG) [Rath] Davvol, First Evincar Takara en-Dal [Ravnica] Azor, Parun (PlaneswalkerWU) Bori Andon Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos Damir, Voidwielder Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster Mat'Selesnya, Parun Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker Ruzi and Kuma Senka, Stealer of Secrets Simic, Parun Svogthir, Parun The Cozen Unknown, Lotleth Troll [Tarkir] Arel, the Whisperer Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander [Thran Empire] Dyfed, Mistress of Portals (Planeswalker) Glacian, Thran Artificer Rebbec, Thran Architect Xod, Thran Healer [Ulgrotha] Baron Sengir, Vampire Lord (Version 2) Feroz, Ulgrotha's Protector (PlaneswalkerWU) Ravi, Grandmother Sengir (Planeswalker)
Quote from ilovesaprolings »Quote from Avatarof »It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card You are focusing a lot on dominaria, there are lot of character from other planes A lot of Ravnican characters: Simic, CIsarzim, Svogthir, Myczil, Zomac Hauj, Pivlic, Azor PW, ghost Agrus Kos or ghost Szadek. From Mirrodin there are some minor character like Bruenna or Malil. They can even try with Slobad planeswalker Kamigawa has Kyodai/Sisters of Flesh and Spirit Lorwyn has some characters too, most important Colfenor Alara has Crucius as a possible pw Innistrad has the fourth sister but also the siblings from Davriel's story Ixalan has the Grim Captain, queen Miralda and emperor Apatzec. Also the merfolk rier heralds Eldraine has the most important character of all, Syr Branigan. And "gingerbread lady".
Quote from Avatarof »It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
Quote from Avatarof »Quote from Ryperior74 »https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/188752297158/of-the-seventy-legendary-creatures-how-many Ok new info not conclusive but It might be somewhat a 50/50 split of 2.0 legendaries (known or have a card) and not known (unknown and don’t have a card) More phyrexians and kamigawa legends is looking good I think we will see a Tetsuo Umezawa 2.0 Actually he’s very very likely since his role of the mtg story is enormous he’s the first one to defeat Nicol Bolas (liliana and Gideon sacrificing himself are both second.) Thanks for the info, would prefer to be 70% new legendaries without a card and 30% 2.0, anyways this has potential because we might get 2.0's from other points in time like pre-spark Ugin and so on. Me personally, I just want more Phyrexians.. was a bit disappointed when I found out that in 2020 we wouldn't be going to New Phyrexia
Quote from Ryperior74 »https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/188752297158/of-the-seventy-legendary-creatures-how-many Ok new info not conclusive but It might be somewhat a 50/50 split of 2.0 legendaries (known or have a card) and not known (unknown and don’t have a card) More phyrexians and kamigawa legends is looking good I think we will see a Tetsuo Umezawa 2.0 Actually he’s very very likely since his role of the mtg story is enormous he’s the first one to defeat Nicol Bolas (liliana and Gideon sacrificing himself are both second.)
Quote from Avatarof »Quote from Ryperior74 »Quote from Avatarof »Fingers crossed for Gix and Ashnod, also it would be nice to see PW Urza and Phyrexian Yawgmoth, this might just be the set where pretty much every major character without a card gets one, kinda what I expected Modern Horizons to be.. I’m sure gix is a certain man it’s gonna be a pain waiting that’s for sure And not only every major character could get a card probably the rest of the highly requested creature tribes get a perfect legend as well I hope you are right, I have been waiting for a Gix card since forever, Commander Legends has the potential to be one of the best sets magic ever made, hopefully we get a good mono-white legend as well
Quote from Ryperior74 »Quote from Avatarof »Fingers crossed for Gix and Ashnod, also it would be nice to see PW Urza and Phyrexian Yawgmoth, this might just be the set where pretty much every major character without a card gets one, kinda what I expected Modern Horizons to be.. I’m sure gix is a certain man it’s gonna be a pain waiting that’s for sure And not only every major character could get a card probably the rest of the highly requested creature tribes get a perfect legend as well
Quote from Avatarof »Fingers crossed for Gix and Ashnod, also it would be nice to see PW Urza and Phyrexian Yawgmoth, this might just be the set where pretty much every major character without a card gets one, kinda what I expected Modern Horizons to be..
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Quote from JaceBluesMaster »Maybe this is a Pioneer Master set?
Quote from Ryperior74 »That’s how Greven should have Ben made compare to before This is decent rakdos commander
Quote from Ryperior74 »Finally urza is a card in black border I’m going to be furious if yawgmoth is not in the set But be careful he might be bannable in edh winter orb and null rod your the only one who can tap for mana paradox engine and intruder alarm that’s infinite mana All 0 artifacts are pretty much mox sapphire and that’s banned in edh and they can loop around stax cards like I mentioned He’s definately on the Leovold, Emissary of Trest level commander you might win when he comes out he’s definately competive level
Quote from Ryperior74 »gix and yawgmoth might be in modern horizons just to point out by the way isn't possible gix is dimir because of Rona, Disciple of Gix
Quote from illidqn »My predictions in 4-Deck Commander 2019 : WU Feroz UB Tevesh Szat BR New planeswalker RG New planeswalker
Quote from Ryperior74 »Finally I have Ben waiting for the zombie gods And oh my goodness she can get baren glory to work too bad the draw part ruins it Time to reveal the evilest play you can do with this Martyr's Bond and Faith's Reward that’s a obnoxiously large amount of saving for your opponents too bad it can’t get the lands
Quote from Ryperior74 »Oh you know what something accured to me Remember we all said Garry wasn’t invited due to the similar goal of bolas killing walkers and making it harder for him to get a godspark back right? Which means bolas chooses who to invite right? So how did ugin get here? Wouldn’t bolas assume he’s dead thus wouldn’t get a invitation
Quote from Ryperior74 »Quote from krishnath »Yawgmoth, the Father of Machines <cost> Legendary Artifact Creature - God P/T Yawgmoth is indestructible At the end of each players turn, return all permanents put into your graveyard this turn to the battlefield. If the Father of Machines deals combat damage to a creature or planeswalker, exile that permanent. Your opponents can't take control of the Lord of the Wastes. If the Ineffable deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game. Anything less would be an insult to Phyrexians everywhere. I would change the follow to make it more acceptable First it’s a flip card and this is the other side and very hard condition to flip I agree he should get the Phage the Untouchable flipped anyway Change permanents to creatures and artifacts Can’t gain control is a yes I say he should end up with a ability that turns him into the cloud form as seen in last stand which would add hexproof to his current abilities but also add can’t attack players By the way minor error you made his creature type would be spirit god not just god
Quote from krishnath »Yawgmoth, the Father of Machines <cost> Legendary Artifact Creature - God P/T Yawgmoth is indestructible At the end of each players turn, return all permanents put into your graveyard this turn to the battlefield. If the Father of Machines deals combat damage to a creature or planeswalker, exile that permanent. Your opponents can't take control of the Lord of the Wastes. If the Ineffable deals combat damage to a player, that player loses the game. Anything less would be an insult to Phyrexians everywhere.
Quote from Manite »Well, with the current number of Ninja plus the plausible number of new Ninja they could print (~9 new rares out of 17 new cards, and that's assuming all creatures), there would barely be enough to scratch by. Now, a UB deck themed around Rogues, Pirates, and Ninja? Yes, please!
Quote from Ryperior74 »And I don’t know the source and name but the guy who makes the commmander decks heard all of are criticisms about C18 and will take them to heart for C19
613.8. One continuous effect can override another. Sometimes the results of one effect determine whether another effect applies or what another effect does. Example: Two effects are affecting the same creature: one from an Aura that says “Enchanted creature has flying” and one from an Aura that says “Enchanted creature loses flying.” Neither of these depends on the other, since nothing changes what they affect or what they’re doing to it. Applying them in timestamp order means the one that was generated last “wins.” The same process would be followed, and the same result reached, if either of the effects had a duration (such as “Target creature loses flying until end of turn”) or came from a non-Aura source (such as “All creatures lose flying”). Example: One effect reads, “White creatures get +1/+1,” and another reads, “Enchanted creature is white.” The enchanted creature gets +1/+1 from the first effect, regardless of its previous color.
613.3. Within layer 7, apply effects in a series of sublayers in the order described below. Within each sublayer, apply effects in timestamp order. (See rule 613.6.) Note that dependency may alter the order in which effects are applied within a sublayer. (See rule 613.7.) 613.3a Layer 7a: Effects from characteristic-defining abilities that define power and/or toughness are applied. See rule 604.3. 613.3b Layer 7b: Effects that set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value are applied. Effects that refer to the base power and/or toughness of a creature apply in this layer. 613.3c Layer 7c: Effects that modify power and/or toughness (but don’t set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value) are applied. 613.3d Layer 7d: Power and/or toughness changes from counters are applied. See rule 121, “Counters.” 613.3e Layer 7e: Effects that switch a creature’s power and toughness are applied. Such effects take the value of power and apply it to the creature’s toughness, and take the value of toughness and apply it to the creature’s power.