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the list you are thinking of running looks good but vey clunky or over costed. it simply isnt as fast as it should be.and there isnt enough creatures in the list. the deck realy needs mystic enforcer as a finisher as your list hasnt realy got one.

im taking G/W/r goyf or the U/G shifter. probibly the goyf though cos id rather not play a control deck when im not used to it, plus goyf can get some degenerate draws (9/9 turn 3 anyone?)

Quote from mikey k159

banning damnation would be the most hilarious thing since them printing upheaval in the same std season as mongrel and tog

lol. u get what im saying though?

ooooooooooooooooooooook then. i think someones been beaten by a goyf 10 2 many times cos hes a bad player (im looking at you surging chaos). tarmogoyf is a freakin awsome card. so is teferie (which is a heck of alot more powerfull) and dragonstorm and mystical teaching, specteral force and hell y not while we are banning all these good card y not ban damnation as well? we all know killing EVERY creature is broken so we better ban that to.

my point is they print good cards. tarmogoyf isnt broken. its just good. it doesnt create a degenerate combo like dragonstorm. in fact i think drangonstorm is far more broken than this card. i dont know about you but i dont like dieing on turn 1.

i have a goyf' deck and i se kavu pretator in it. this can give me a 9/9 trampler on turn 3. should that be banned?

i think there are some decent arguements that say goyf should be banned but those same aurguement apply to alot more cards than tarmogloyf (tefirie/mystical teachings anyone?)

Quote from Valriera

If there's one thing that is typically known, Smallpox in an aggro deck looking to win with several creatures is a bad idea. I understand its tremendous synergy with Tarmogoyf, and it's certainly great with it, but you need to cast pox, then play the goyf, then attack. On top of that, pox costs double black, and without an urborg in play, that really seems hard to do since you can't search black sources with flagstones.

i agree with you. maybe it would be better to take white out?

imagine this:
t1: play terromorfic expanse or swamp or urborg
t2: swamp or urborg. play small pox
t3: forest. play a rather large tarmogoyf

maybe the deck just doesnt need white

Quote from Olly2006

My biggest concern right now is the correct configuration of the sideboard, basically the choices are of the following in my opinion :-

Whirling Dervish
Riftsweeper
Disenchant
Thrill of the Hunt
Extirpate
Stonecloaker
Sunlance

The meta in my area has 4 decks which probably make up 90% of the meta. They are :-
Mono Red Aggro
Wafo-Tapa Slivers (basically identical builds)
U/B Control (Korlash version, Tendrils etc.)
G/W or G/W/r Goyf.

What would be the best sideboard for such a metagame?

4 sunlance (a must have due to fourtune thief)
4 riftsweeper (awsome against RDW and good against teachings)
4 dormant sliver/thrill (depending on how many sliver decks there are)
2/3 stoncloaker (awsome mirror or even RDW/teachings to black a removel spell)
1 island (if u run the dormant)

if u run the dormants use a full set of expanses

y does the deck run whit at all? theres only 2 cards in the deck that need it

I've been having very consisent results. Most of my losses are due not to this decks lack of ability, but my own play mistakes... (it happens to us all ) However, Im starting to learn to correct it a bit with this deck and am loving the card interactions. The synergy in this deck is basically unmatched in Block right now.

However, heading into PTQs I am a bit worried about the hate that may be prevelant. The mirror doesnt really frighten me, I just dont feel like dealing with a meta full of SBs packed full of 'Goyf Hate.

EDIT: Do most people here prefer the splash or are most sticking to solid :symgw:? I dont think the splash is worth it for Kavu Predator and Fiery Justice. Both are good cards but I dont think they are so good they are worth screwing with the mana base. Maybe Im missing something...
DOUBLE EDIT: I forgot about Dead//Gone, but again my point remains the same. I feel the cnsistency of the build has such high consistency I dont know if I even wanna mess with it.

i looooooove the red splash. it gives you the chance to put a 9/9 (2 r/g FS lands or a lwanowar reborn. play turn 2 kavu then turn 3 fiery justice) in the red zone on turn 3. and it gives you dead//gone wich is an awsome card. also you can run gargodon in the SB for the teachings decks. also the "normal" g/w decks dont have a MD answer to foutune thief

Premature Burial is a bad card. Last Gasp is alot better. oh and if it turns into a phage dack damnation and tendrils. oh and manlands

nice article. its nice to see a good primer like this for regionals. i think you covered most of the important decks, but i would have liked to see more distiction between decks (eg the green based aggro decks) and more example decklists. good job.

Quote from Greenliness

Could you justify the cards a little more? the SB looks confusing

I would add a pulmonic sliver or two against ***. Looks pretty solid though. I might make it

ok card justifactions:

The power pump:
Sinew Sliver
Sedge Sliver
Bonesplitter Sliver

evasion:
Two-Headed Sliver
Sidewinder Sliver

The burn:
Lightning Helix
Rift Bolt
Volcanic Hammer
Browbeat
Cautery Sliver

The SB:
Rain of Gore: a very under rated card. hurts all decks with lifegain.
Leyline of the Void: the graveyard hate. there are some stupid combo decks out there and this is the weapon against them
Disenchant: anti-artifact/enchantment. i dont actuely like having it there. maybe shadow of doubt instead?
Greater Gargadon: tech from the last couple of grand prixs. exellent against tendrals of corruption
Ghostflame Sliver: tech against pro sliver stuff
Swamp: extra swamp for the black SB cards

as for the pulmonic sliver; its too slow and doesnt help me. after a wrath (which will happen before the pulmonic hits) my opponent should be in burn range.

a nice deck exept i dont think you need 5 swamps when the deck has only 1 true black card and the sledge slivers. your running terromorphic expanse so you only need 1 or 2 if you cut the mindlash slivers. maybe for more burn? i also dont think you need the temperal isolations. they arnt burn lol and its an aggro deck just needs to do the 20 points needed.

this deck is basicaly a boros deck with a slash of black for sledge sliver and some important SB cards. heres the deck



its showed some promise in testing. any imput is welcome:)

sadly i did not like this article. mainly because wat you said was already said some where else or was incorect. if you are going to do a set review explain how the card will change the metagame and the top tier decks instead of just mentioning them.