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  • posted a message on Various single cards..
    Mirri's Guile is worth running if you value the effect, and I do. It lets you control card quality and works great with shuffle effects, all things Sylvan Library does but if it's your favorite card why not run a back up effect? I would recommend both.

    Bloodforged Battle-Axe never worked out for me, I liked it in theory but that extra 1 for the equip was a pain.

    Off the topof my head I would cut Markov Blademaster for Zo-Zu the Punisher, I just really like it alot and Markov Blademaster was bad in the early days of my cube.
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  • posted a message on [SCD] Dark Ritual
    Been in my cube since day 1 and not in any risk of getting cut. It makes the maindeck a very high percentage of the time since so many different types of decks are very happy for that 2 mana bump; agro drops bigger/more threats, midrange gets to play its 5 drops on turn 2 and control gets to play a threat and hold up counter magic.
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    Kor Haven seems solid but I don't know if I could find a slot for it. Do you run it as a white card?

    It's a similar effect to Maze of Ith but I definitely wouldn't put it on the same level; tapping for mana is a nice upgrade but at too steep a cost to the activation.
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  • posted a message on [CUBE] Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle
    I think with trample I might have given it a try, but 5 spells is a lot for an easily chumped beater. The ramp is nice but it's not exactly a crazy rate for a guild slot, and I think it will go unfliped or flip too late often enough that ramp is mostly what this card does.
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  • posted a message on Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
    We have some pretty solid red 3 drops at the minute, I don't think I am too interested in jaya ballard, task mage. The reach is pretty sweet but she is pretty fragile so if you want any damage out of her you are always going to be tieing up mana and cards and that isn't something red decks want to do; to get the first 3 damage you need to sing in RRR2 and a card.

    It's definitely a fun card but not something I'm interested in running in my current environment.
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread



    Contraptions

    Today's "card" a type of card, CONTRAPTIONS! I am Un-Certain if anyone ended up running them, I was really interested but it is quite a big update to make so I have put it off. The forum also seemed Un-Decided on how to actually implement the card type.

    The art treatment for the contraptions was pretty fantastic in my opinion; boarderless, interesting and it all combined to make a giant image.

    Have you ever assembled a contraption, in either magic or real life?



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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread

    I have kept this in my cube for a long time but it has been on the chopping block for a while now. If you are in tokens it is one of the best anthems around but it is very narrow. Between Intangible Virtue and Honor of the Pure I really want a unconditional 2 mana anthem.

    The art is pretty bland on this one; not easy to make out whats going on and there is nothing particular interesting when you do.

    What virtue do you most embody most, and what one do you aspire to?
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread

    EDIT: Honest question, would you treat this like a land in deckbuilding? I’ve always wondered about this with Ritual and Lotus, I always play it safe and don’t count them as lands, but I could be wrong on this practice as they all make mana.

    I don't change my land count for rituals but I would for a lotus. Most moxes I would run as a land. Aether Vial wouldn't change my land count, but I have no experience with it.
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  • posted a message on [[SCD]] Aether Vial
    Aether Vial was discussed here in the Random Cube Card of the Day Thread. Vial you wait why no check out the thread!

    (Spoiler: Great in constructed, weak in cube)
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread

    Zealous Conscripts is a card I used to rate a lot higher but she hasn't done much in a long time. I seem to remember her getting a lot of love but haven't seen it mentioned in a while.

    3 power, haste and turning their biggest blocker into a threat is a pretty good play for agro or midrange decks and stealing a planeswalker and ultimating it is one of the best feelings in cube but despite all that she hasn't been making the cut. I don't run Splinter Twin or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker so it isn't a combo piece, is that what it needs to push it over the edge?

    Aesthetically I like it, I read comics and it has that kinda of feel to it. It does look a little CG and I wouldn't want too many cards in the style but it isn't too bad. There probably isn't a big chance of getting another art but I would like to see it in a more classic horror style. What are peoples thoughts on the art?

    What would you do if conscription was enforced in your country? Do you agree with the concept?

    (Forgive the grammar/typos/rambling I have had a few drinks)



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  • posted a message on [C18] [CUBE] Lord Windgrace
    Quote from wtwlf123 »
    It's an expensive 3-color 'walker that has no impact on the board. Hard pass for me.

    Nit-picking here, but returning 2 lands could effect the board if you are grabbing manlands or stripmine. The mana from the lands can also be used to protect him. I would disagree he has no impact on the board.
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread

    Aether Vial

    A powerhouse for a long time in any small creature decks, you want it down as early as possible to start cranking out that card advantage but even after a turn or two you get to start flashing in creatures. As non-agro decks get more value 1-2 drops it also starts to move it more into value territory.

    Were you ever any good at science, or are you more of a new-age person?

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  • posted a message on [C18] [CUBE] Lord Windgrace


    Is this guy worth considering? Hard to cast but he has a good starting loyalty and can generate card advantage with his + ability, and ramp or recur lands (like stripmine) with his - ability. Interesting card if you have a value Jund deck or some Loam decks going on.

    Probably not quite good enough since its a 3 colour card (I really wish it was just golgari) but I might give him a spin if I end up with the commander pre-cons.
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    Quote from wtwlf123 »
    It doesn't have to be either/or. No cube inclusions ever do. But when new cards come out, it does change the evaluations of existing cards. And if you only have room for 1 shatter variant in red, Abrade is a million times better. Especially once you factor in the nerf that Smash got with the planeswalker damage change. I also play both. But it's not as important as it was before Abrade came out, and it's not as good as it was before the rules change. Both of those factors are game-changers for Smash, IMHO.


    I will have to disagree strongly that Abrade is "a million times better" than Smash in cube. Red is the most aggressive colour in Magic and our Red section (as I imagine many are) is therefore heavily slanted towards Aggro. Red is the pivotal colour for making aggro work in the cube. And in Aggro, Smash is clearly superior to Abrade.

    I agree that in general and in most formats Abrade is clearly a better card. I'm not even sure which of the two we would cut if it ever came down to it (there's probably other 2 cmc spells we would cut before either one of them). But I think there's a clear case to be made that Smash is up there with Abrade, and certainly not a million times worse.

    Note that this is based on my play experience with a 360 powered cube, where the concentration of artifacts in decks tends to be very high, and where aggro struggles to be relevant, even against control. At that number of cards and with power the cube environment is almost vintage-esque (less broken, obviously).

    I just had a look on MTGTop8 - Abrade and Smash are 2 of 11 red instants that see Vintage play. And several of those are multicolour, such as Izzet Charm and Kolaghan Command, whereas others are clearly sideboard cards, such as Red Elemental Blast. In short, I don't really see why you shouldn't play both. We happily do - at 360.


    Even in agro I think I would prefer Abrade since it can deal with blockers, Smash to Smithereens cares about my opponents board more than I would like it too and is a dead card unless they have an artifact. I mean there are matches where Smash to Smithereens is clearly better, but if I'm going into a match blind I would run abrade 100% without even thinking about it. The flexibility of killing a blocker or destroying an artifact is much more appealing to me than destroying an artifact to deal 3 damage to a player.

    If playing both works for you, then you do you, but in less artifact dense cubes Smash a very real drawback. I'm my cube Smash to Smithereens was an unexciting sideboard card but abrade makes most red decks. I think it just comes down to if you prefer flexibility or raw power; I prefer the cards that can deal with either of 2 types of problem, over the narrower 2-for 1 option.

    I would say vintage is an entirely different animal, there are a ton of cards that are good there but don't play so well in cube; Delver of Secrets is a prime example, it is its own archetype in eternal formats but fell quite far short in cube (for me anyway).
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  • posted a message on Random Cube Card of the Day Thread
    I tried it years ago but it didn't work out for me. Maybe my artifact density was lower when I ran it but since the printing of Abrade I haven't given re-adding it a second thought.

    I once drunkely sat on a housemates laptop, he was not pleased but I didn't face too much in the way of implications because despite the screen being broken the laptop still worked with a monitor.
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