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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from NZB2323 »
    Quote from Vandar »
    Hopefully Bolas is triumphant. Gideon dies trying to use The Blackblade, all the other walkers lose their sparks and Bolas ascends.

    Would be so sweet!


    Oh yeah, lets just kill off all the face characters of the game, most of which are actually popular outside of places like this who hate on every planeswalker that shows up for one block. That is totally a good hook to go with now that we got our Shocklands sales bump.


    Game of Thrones has proven that you can have successful fantasy storytelling and characters dying. It’s boring to have the same characters in the story over and over and over again with them facing death-defying odds all the time and always escaping with little more than scratches.


    Game of Thrones is also a vastly different story than magic, Game of Thrones also gets very long in the tooth focusing on certain character plots and being "grim and gritty" to the point where it actively drags the plot to a screeching halt, and quite frankly we have had all of one real story arc's worth of plot since BFZ began.

    Yes Gideon is kinda flat, but he spent the 5 years after he was introduced as a character being stuck in the Black Hole of Zendikar's plot, with a non-nonsensical appearance as a guest on Ravnica. Kamahl started the same way in Oddessy, and then he had 6 books worth of plot to actually develop. Gideon has had the focus on him to develop as a character for all of..Dominaria? where he had to share the spotlight with The Weatherlight crew.

    The Obsession that this forum has had with "THE GATEWATCH MUST DIE" has been a thing since the Gatewatch has started, it has nothing to do with "them defying the odds" and you lot blaming them for being everything "wrong" with Magic's Plot.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on War of The Spark Trailer
    I mean Phyrexia is a threat on the level Bolas


    No, no it is not, unless Tezzeret is brain dead enough to take the Planar Bridge over to them they can not leave Argentum/Mirrodin/New Phyrexia and even if he did the only way they could be a threat is if they managed to make oil bombs and infect entire planes from scratch a plan that is nowhere near guaranteed to work.

    Trying to force New Phyrexia as some sort of real threat is on the level of trying to force Zendikar 2 in terms of bad ideas.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Vandar »
    Hopefully Bolas is triumphant. Gideon dies trying to use The Blackblade, all the other walkers lose their sparks and Bolas ascends.

    Would be so sweet!


    Oh yeah, lets just kill off all the face characters of the game, most of which are actually popular outside of places like this who hate on every planeswalker that shows up for one block. That is totally a good hook to go with now that we got our Shocklands sales bump.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Random Card of the Day: Elves of Deep Shadow
    Where in the multiverse is Dack Fayden?/10


    Somebody call Rockapella.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Bolas got a downgrade in personality,


    That is straight out wrong, Pre-mending Bolas was just as much of a petty twat pre-mending as post.

    Normally that isn't a problem, but the Gatewatch and most of the PWs came after Mending just aren't as interesting,


    And that might have something to do with trying to tell an epic story at a breakneck pace, shoving all the plot developments and character developments into short stories that have to continually have to build a setting from scratch in every set that isn't a return too. The majority of the Old Walkers weren't all that interesting either.

    Urza is the only one who really had a character arc, which was the entire point of the Nerf so that they can have the core lore of the game actually show up in the plot without breaking it, it just happened that they made that change in the same time they removed the novels from the scene so for the past decade the entire storyline just sort of..meandered.

    So I appreciate them trying to tell a more consistent and focused story, even if they chose some of the wrong planeswalkers to focus on..and really wrong plotline to start everything off with.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Random Card of the Day: Elves of Deep Shadow
    Two Relevant non ult abilities, and an ult that can break a board stall.

    20/10
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on SCG Open Indianapolis-- Standard -- 1/26-27
    Quote from idSurge »
    Bound to happen I guess with perfect mana. All it would take is fetches at this point. I am very surprised at the difference between Bo1 and Bo3 meta's at this point.


    Fetchlands, Shocks and Checklands? might as well just put ABU in there too.
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Kman »
    I do think its telling that after this way of Storytelling with the new Ravnica set, there is only a small hand full of posts about each story. Contrast that with previous story line forum threads and the pages of discussion that could ensue after each weeks story.
    Its like people aren't even interested in reading them because they know it will shed no light on the plot. They are just fillers. Which would be great if filler stories were done in the down times between sets and not as a replacement for the set Stories.
    Hopefully they go back to the way it was and not the book idea in the future.


    There just isn't much to talk about, it is world building and doesn't give us much new information. The Guilds are the Guilds and are gonna do Guild things, it doesn't promote a whole lot of discussion..but the actual plots will end up better in book form because they aren't trying to shove an "epic" story line into 50 pages worth of weekly stories.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Random Card of the Day: Elves of Deep Shadow
    Quote from tstorm823 »
    Spawning Pit


    This card is very good because all free sac outlets are. But I wish there was real data of card usage over time, cause I think this one took a big hit with the tuck rule change.


    Remember when damage went on the Stack? I REMEMBER.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Flisch »
    Also, if Baral's countermagic is enough to stifle Chandra's flames, why wasn't Ulamog's mana-eating aura enough to do the same? No matter which way you slice it or which mental gymnastics you go through to justify the resolution to Battle for Zendikar, it remains -at best!- a narratively highly dissatisfying ending.


    Because eating too much of something in a short time can't kill you?


    It doesn't matter what Gatewatch hatred you have, it remains -at worst- nowhere near as terrible as people said, and at least The resolution to Battle for Zendikar made some sort of Narrative sense.

    "Ugin always had a way to kill the Eldrazi, he was just a massive prick who cares more about the balance than he does about the little people, which is entirely in character for an Oldwalker Elder Dragon."

    Which was better than the garbage that went down in SOI "Emrakul decides randomly to stuff herself in the moon meaning that one of the most popular planes in the setting now has a gun to it's head permanently" The problem with the Eldrazi is that there is no ending that is satisfying, by their very nature you either lose every fight involving them..or have to pull something out of your arse to make the good guys win.

    The Eldrazi never should have existed in MTG, they were a mistake. Going back to Zendikar after they got loose to try and "save" the plane was doubling down on that mistake.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Random Card of the Day: Elves of Deep Shadow
    Quote from tstorm823 »
    Words of Wind


    As a magic player, I draw a lot of cards, and as such I've looked at this before. But you think about the ideal case and it's just Upheaval followed by a permanent lock, and then you feel bad and put the card away.

    Edit: Just read flavor text. Roughly translated: "Don't have emotions. Who needs friends? Bounce all permanents! It's the only reasonable thing to do"


    I need to test this in my Tamiyo Staxish deck.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Are the lands that turn to creatures good
    They are about the only come into play tapped dual lands I would touch with a 10 foot pole in EDH.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    only for Ugin to show up with Azor at the end to save the day


    Unless Ugin is keeping a proper Planar Bridge from us, that can not happen.
    ”Everything is impossible until it is done” -Nelson Mandela

    Who knows what Ugin’s spirit Magic is capable of?


    Probably not arbitrarily undoing the entire point of the mending, sort of like how the Planar Bridge specifically can't transport "living" matter explicitly so that Planeswalkers retain their specialness of being able to hop from plane to plane.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    only for Ugin to show up with Azor at the end to save the day


    Unless Ugin is keeping a proper Planar Bridge from us, that can not happen.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from NZB2323 »
    Good story, but why would a demon who has been around for centuries be afraid to ask a human out?


    We all have our weaknesses.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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