Been thinking about it as well. Being able to Stirrings into it is a huge + point. I was also thinking of removing 1 relic and add in a 2nd leyline of sanctity once this is in mb.
Hi guys, i've been playing this on Xmage and it seems good against most decks except Abzan. Seems very hard to beat them with souls and lili.
What are your sideboards like?
Abzan is not an issue really spirits is a deck that you can sculpt with the meta you are facing so for me i've taken to Thalia main board making souls and lili's cost 4 means they are hard to cast under our spellquellers but this is a meta call
hey, thx for the reply. i am also playing w 3 thalias instead of geist. prefer it more i guess. maybe the lack of reps against abzan is hurting me
Sooo.. looking at scg charlotte, we'll need to tweak the deck to more gy hate for grixis/dredge/living end and qhost quarters for eldratron? What do you guys think?
MTGO question - How do you flicker TKS for maximum benefit in your opponents draw step? Every time I do it they still draw afterwards thus making the play pretty lame!
I think the only way u can flicker TKS after they draw from draw phase, is when there's a spell on the stack? Since opp has priority on their main phase.
I have fallen into the Tron trap. after over 200 competitive games of Bant and countless testing games I was getting a little complacent and invested in Chalices ! purely because the deck is unfair and is better for the current meta.
I want to make bant great again but I need to find a way to beat the big guys in the format.
I have had the opportunity to test a lot against the vizier combo and even with a cage & counterspells I struggle, I just seems so much better and more resilient than the old version !
living end, Elves, merfolk, Titanshift, Shadow, ETC.
i'll be trying my hand at the BW Eldrazi list that won GP Kobe. Looks decent for the meta.
Competed in a GPT Las Vegas and went top8 with a 3-1-1 score, in a field of 31 players. The breakdown for the matches:
R1: Affinity 2-1 (1-0)
G1: Opp won after a strong start with Ornithopters, Signal Pest, Moths and Cranial Plating. Nothing much i can do when they slam almost an entire hand down.
G2: -4x Thought-Knot Seer, -1x Talisman of Progress, +2x Stony Silence, +1x Dismember, +1x Naturalize, +1 Worship. Slammed a T2 Stony Silence with 2 removal in hand and a Displacer. Opp got stuck on 1 land. Game was over in a jiffy.
G3: No changes to the mb. Opp mulled to 5 and i don't remember much of the game. Just remembered him showing me 2x Ceremonious Rejection after he lost. Couldn't play against my Caverns.
R2: RG Tron 2-0 (2-0)
G1: I had a strong hand with a Hierarch, 2x TKS, Path, Temple and 2 other lands. Played Hierarch T1, got bolted and played TKS on T3. Opp had an Ulamorg, Wurmcoil and a Karn. Took the Karn, opp played the WE, pathed the WE. Played another TKS on the next turn, took Ulamorg and just went for the beatdown.
G2: -4x Reality Smashers, -1x Drowner of Hope. +2 Stony Silence, 1x Naturalize, 2x Stubborn Denials, 1x Negate. Opened a hand with 1x Denial, TKS, Path, and lands. Played very slow and drew into a Negate. Opp had gotten Tron in T4, used his Burnwillows for G to cast Ancient Stirrings, cast Karn. I cast a Stubborn Denial. My T4 i cast a TKS, took an emrakul and saw that opp has no other wincons, just Sylvan Scrying and a Sphere. Opp couldn't get anymore gas and lost.
R3: GW Creatures 1-1 (2-0-1)
G1: Very grindy matchup. Got a win thru, Reality Smasher and TKS. He had 2x paths in hand and i had enough gas.
G2: Paths and Linvala won him the game.
G3: Both of us went defensive after throwing removals, game ended in a draw.
R4: Grixis Delver 0-2 (2-1-1)
G1: Had a good hand, cast TKS on T3, he mana leaked it and followed it up with surgical extraction. Played an EE for 0 to stop him from swarming with his tokens. He killed me from the air with a flipped delver. Kept drawing lands and not a single cavern.
G2: Again no Cavern, played to a standstill when i had 1x Path and 1x Smasher in hand and 1x on the board. He had a Tasigur, unflipped Delver and a token. Our life were both in single digits by this time. I Path the Tasigur and it resolved. Thinking that he was out of counterspells, i cast the 2nd Reality Smasher, he responded with a Mana Leak. He killed my Smasher in the next 2 turns and proceeded to win with 1x token and 1x unflipped Delver.
R5: Scapeshift 2-0 ( 3-1-1)
Paired down to meet a 6 pointer. He let me had the W and i got through with 10 points.
Quarters: Living End 0-2
G1: Living End looks like it has been going to the gym for the past 1 year. The deck is beefy now with new additions from AKH. He cycled 2x Street Wraiths and cycled a Cerodon. Next turn he cycled a Horror of the Broken Lands. T3 he cascaded for Living End. Killed my board and had 16 power otb in T4.
G2: Brought in Relics and counterspells. Managed to counter his first cascaded Living End. Shriekmaw killed my Displacer on his 2nd Living End and he just steamrolled past me. Had a Path but couldn't deal with his remaining creatures. Really impressed with the Living End deck. Maybe i should have added in RIP in the sb but yeah, that's magic.
wondering the same thing..
R1: Jund 2-1
R2: Esper DS 2-1
R3: Jund 2-0
Still not sure why we're under represented.
Ran with 3 Reshaper, 2 Skyspawner, 1 E Witness and 1 Blessed Alliance.
hey, thx for the reply. i am also playing w 3 thalias instead of geist. prefer it more i guess. maybe the lack of reps against abzan is hurting me
What are your sideboards like?
Looking gooooooood!
I think the only way u can flicker TKS after they draw from draw phase, is when there's a spell on the stack? Since opp has priority on their main phase.
i'll be trying my hand at the BW Eldrazi list that won GP Kobe. Looks decent for the meta.
R1: Affinity 2-1 (1-0)
G1: Opp won after a strong start with Ornithopters, Signal Pest, Moths and Cranial Plating. Nothing much i can do when they slam almost an entire hand down.
G2: -4x Thought-Knot Seer, -1x Talisman of Progress, +2x Stony Silence, +1x Dismember, +1x Naturalize, +1 Worship. Slammed a T2 Stony Silence with 2 removal in hand and a Displacer. Opp got stuck on 1 land. Game was over in a jiffy.
G3: No changes to the mb. Opp mulled to 5 and i don't remember much of the game. Just remembered him showing me 2x Ceremonious Rejection after he lost. Couldn't play against my Caverns.
R2: RG Tron 2-0 (2-0)
G1: I had a strong hand with a Hierarch, 2x TKS, Path, Temple and 2 other lands. Played Hierarch T1, got bolted and played TKS on T3. Opp had an Ulamorg, Wurmcoil and a Karn. Took the Karn, opp played the WE, pathed the WE. Played another TKS on the next turn, took Ulamorg and just went for the beatdown.
G2: -4x Reality Smashers, -1x Drowner of Hope. +2 Stony Silence, 1x Naturalize, 2x Stubborn Denials, 1x Negate. Opened a hand with 1x Denial, TKS, Path, and lands. Played very slow and drew into a Negate. Opp had gotten Tron in T4, used his Burnwillows for G to cast Ancient Stirrings, cast Karn. I cast a Stubborn Denial. My T4 i cast a TKS, took an emrakul and saw that opp has no other wincons, just Sylvan Scrying and a Sphere. Opp couldn't get anymore gas and lost.
R3: GW Creatures 1-1 (2-0-1)
G1: Very grindy matchup. Got a win thru, Reality Smasher and TKS. He had 2x paths in hand and i had enough gas.
G2: Paths and Linvala won him the game.
G3: Both of us went defensive after throwing removals, game ended in a draw.
R4: Grixis Delver 0-2 (2-1-1)
G1: Had a good hand, cast TKS on T3, he mana leaked it and followed it up with surgical extraction. Played an EE for 0 to stop him from swarming with his tokens. He killed me from the air with a flipped delver. Kept drawing lands and not a single cavern.
G2: Again no Cavern, played to a standstill when i had 1x Path and 1x Smasher in hand and 1x on the board. He had a Tasigur, unflipped Delver and a token. Our life were both in single digits by this time. I Path the Tasigur and it resolved. Thinking that he was out of counterspells, i cast the 2nd Reality Smasher, he responded with a Mana Leak. He killed my Smasher in the next 2 turns and proceeded to win with 1x token and 1x unflipped Delver.
R5: Scapeshift 2-0 ( 3-1-1)
Paired down to meet a 6 pointer. He let me had the W and i got through with 10 points.
Quarters: Living End 0-2
G1: Living End looks like it has been going to the gym for the past 1 year. The deck is beefy now with new additions from AKH. He cycled 2x Street Wraiths and cycled a Cerodon. Next turn he cycled a Horror of the Broken Lands. T3 he cascaded for Living End. Killed my board and had 16 power otb in T4.
G2: Brought in Relics and counterspells. Managed to counter his first cascaded Living End. Shriekmaw killed my Displacer on his 2nd Living End and he just steamrolled past me. Had a Path but couldn't deal with his remaining creatures. Really impressed with the Living End deck. Maybe i should have added in RIP in the sb but yeah, that's magic.
Whoa... no issue here.. just that i didn't realised it.