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Ok good news guys

https://twitter.com/SheldonMenery/status/1310725509857370112?s=20

Sheldon and the RC committe Are listening to us, taking notes and weighing options Basicly they are discussing TWD cards

and they will have something to say and will definatly be before the secret lair drops

in other words This looks like a sign TWD cards will probably be considered silver bordered In commander format

Honestly? Good.

"Oh you want this new commander that has a playstyle you like? Well why didn't you buy it in this limited window for this price? Not in your country? OOooh don't worry, you can just buy it for this marked up price from someone on ebay. Thats fine right?"


Disgusting.

I'm 100% with you on this. My first take was that "Hey these look fun" but the more I thought about it the more this conclusion seemed to be obvious. Vanity cards are one thing but selling unique cards at a premium price for a limited time is just gross. The EDH/Commander community needs to voice their disapproval of this tactic to WotC now or it's just going to get worse, I'm already kind of sick of the secret lairs and if this is the direction they want to take it, we should all be standing against it on principle alone.

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STP do do da do do do
STP do do da do do do
STP do do da do do do
STP!

Counterspell do do da do do do
Counterspell do do da do do do
Counterspell do do da do do do
Counterspell!

Lightning Bolt do do da do do do
Lightning Bolt do do da do do do
Lightning Bolt do do da do do do
Lightning Bolt!

This can easily be solved if reliable answers from days of yore were reprinted with earnest. Remember M11 standard? Bolt was there. Were there any out-of-control decks at the time? Not that I can recall. At least they brought Disenchant back over Naturalize...

This is also a telling sign of the neglect WotC has put into the designing of standard-level sets and focusing too much on auxiliary products. But that's the result of having so many formats that require product support. They reap what they sow...

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Prettymuch!

They got a lot of feedback from bad players that they hated having their stuff interacted with, and now all of the threats are completely out of control. Answers have never, EVER ruined a format, and should be leaned upon heavily to regulate them. People like playing with powerful threats, so let them! Just make sure there are efficient answers to those threats at all times.

Honestly, something like '1W Sorcery Exile target creature.' should probably just be evergreen. Not so efficient or flexible that it invalidates archetypes, but strong enough that you can't just jam a threat and expect it to stick around for the rest of the game. No-frills 4-cmc wraths should also be a constant, since the aggro decks nowadays are inarguably fast enough to warrant it.

THIS! This is the exact reason I stopped playing standard nearly 5 years ago and why I have not touched it since. It really does feel like there are just threats and no answers, you just to out threat their threats with more threatening threats. I love EDH for the specific reason I get to have answers in my deck that don't force me to jump through hoops or expend all my resources to fix a problem. Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Wrath of God, Damnation, Counterspell and even some weird niche things like Cannibalize, these are all incredibly healthy cards to include in a format as it forces smart play. I remember having to play along side cards like counterspell in standard and it didn't make me frustrated it made me a better player. It made me learn how to bait the removal and counters, throwing some cards to the wolves to force misplays, and it always felt so rewarding when I got to resolve the real threat after. Adding cards like that to standard is really something the need to be willing to try again.

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There are only 3 inscription cards.
Red & white one missin. Why ?

Red and white have six kicker cards between them, mostly removal. They got Felidar Retreat and Valakut Exploration instead, which most people on here see as a good thing.

As someone who loves my Hallar, the Firefletcher deck I'm very sad there's no red one, I was kind of waiting for it to get spoiled. Still there are plenty of good kicker cards for that deck in this set, it just feels like an unfinished cycle.

Another nice tool for Ezuri, claw of progress

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If a permanent taps for CC do you get CCC? I am going to assume yes but the wording makes me wonder.

That is correct, this will only add an additional C but that can go quite a long ways. This is effectively a Colorless Caged Sun for one less mana, an addition +1/+1, bonus mana on all permanents not just lands and some tacked on lifegain. That's pretty damn good if you ask me (was going to compare it to gauntlet of power but that hits everyone not just you.)

Ezuri, claw of progress is very pleased with this one.

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If Zendikar has 350ish cards, there's either a ton of lands/artifacts/multi color cards or lotus cobra is probably not 193. That would be approximately 40-45 cards of each color and 150+ lands/artifacts/multi color. And no colorless spells, because those go first.

So what does it all mean.

Actually that seems about right at 193. If you take a look at say green from double masters green subsided in the 151-188 out of 332

this is 193/280 (280 cards in the set) and since the ordering is Colorless > WUBRG > Multicolor > Artifacts > Lands, and we can assume a few more green cards after that, we're looking at say 60-70ish Multicolor+artifacts+lands, which for a land themed set feels about right.

350 is a lot and tends to be reserved for sets like Double masters now (those numbers being a bit inflated by the glut of alternate art and special printing cards tied to the set). 270-280 is the normal range for a set like this.

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I am a minority speaker though when I say I just don't get this card. It's just not that great whenever I see it played. So maybe you draw 1 extra card (and lose life for it) before it dies to virtually anything. Just IMO, obviously it's a very heavily played card for a reason, i just don't see it

It really does just come down to card advantage on a cheap body. You build your deck so that it very rarely hits you for more than 3 points of damage which is more than acceptable if it means you draw the cards you need to win. It can go several rounds of being out if your opponent doesn't have removal or deems it a lesser threat than another thing you've stuck on your board and is highly splashable at only 1 pip of B. It's true it doesn't go in every deck but that's true of a lot of cards.

Excellent include for DM but man have the showings so far been iffy. I'm personally staying away from this product and only buying singles because there a lot of jank around these nuggets of gold.

Hex Parasite continues to be one of those cars that will be more and more useful the more things they print that involve counters.

GET IN MY ALESHA DECK

My Horde of Notions EDH deck is going to have a lot of fun with this. It will be able to produce a lot of mana and has a nice sink if I need it, these are all things I want. Paired with Nyxbloom Elemental for even more fun.

Well you go into slimefoot, the stowaway

Look I'm just happy to be able to finally get my hands on a Grim Tutor

I'm speechless

I can't even find the words to say how much I want this set. If I wasn't buying a box already this has 100% convinced me to buy a box. this feels like the first time I saw the Ravnica shock lands spoiled, I'm giddy for these things.

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And it would be a fun tease of a future mechanic, something we hadn't done before.

*Tarmogoyf teasing tribal and planeswalkers cries in the corner*

I mean if you're going to be nitpicky about it, planeswalkers are a card type and not a mechanic. Plus, those didn't exist when Tarmogoyf was made, unlike mutate being a thing when Unsanctioned was being made.

No that's his point. The original Tarmogoyf was printed the set before those became a thing in magic, thus spoiling they would be a thing (they were referenced in the reminder text of the card).