MTG Salvation

Here we go again....

Anyone knows how much they will cost?

Damn, this is one of the most toxic post I have seen in a long while...

Carry on folks, nothing to see here!

I just came across this post on Blogatog:

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rxphantom asked: High fives for Secret Lair! My local game store, like most, was frankly doing too well, making too much money, and needed to be knocked down a peg.

First off, you have a valid question “Why can’t you run Secret Lair through local game stores?” Framing it as a passive-aggressive snide response adds an unnecessary tone to the post and most of the time will keep people from answering your question. When seeking answers, be polite. Quite often, as you’ll see with this answer, there are reasons you might be unaware of.

So why don’t we run Secret Lair through local game stores? The short answer is we can’t logistically, at least not without drastically raising the price and taking significantly longer to get the product to you.

Secret Lair is what is known as a “short window print to order” product. It requires having a single uniform ordering point, otherwise there’s no way to monitor the time cut-off. Also, with print to order, you want a single uniform shipping point. In addition, we want the product to get to as many players as possible (and yes, we’re working on the global reach issues) and many players do not have easy access to a local game store.

Local game stores are very important to us and we’re making more products than ever sold through local game stores, but not every product works cleanly through them, Secret Lair being a good example. It’s just logistically and financially unviable.

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I don't get why shipping these Secret Lair cards to LGS costs more; they could be included with other releases like Ikoria, for example. It sounds a bit bogus to me, but it might be true. Who knows?

Gotta mention Explorer's Scope; even though it doesn't garantee you will find a land, it is still quite useful in the right build.

It's Lair of the Behemoths, FYI...

I play Urza myself, but I made a point of not using cards which create bad games or stupid infinite combos. I mostly play goodstuff along him and the deck is quite fun to pilot. I don't really need Urza, but when he's in play the game becomes much more interesting for me, of course.

If you want an idea, check it out: https://deckbox.org/sets/2401657

I hate to admit it, but I threw in Winter Orb since I already owned it, however I only plan to use it in the late game (if ever) to help me win quickly thereafter. I have not yet played it, so far it just sat in my hand when I drew it.

Anyhow, I have to agree that Urza is quite strong, but you can manage to build a deck without becoming archenemy as soon as you reveal him.

Not a single comment? Is anyone still present on this site?

Hi all,

I am looking for cards such as Vedalken Archmage to play in my Urza, Lord High Artificer deck. After some research, I haven't found much that can help keep drawing upon casting artifacts. I already have Artificer's Assistant and Riddlesmith which help, but I wish I could get more pieces in case of removal.

Also curious about cards such as Tidespout Tyrant, Leering Emblem, Soulblade Djinn and Sky Theater Strix which can become very interesting under certain circumstances, so if you have ideas, pls let me know!

The deck has Rebuild and similar cards; looking for another wincon than Temporal Fissure if you have suggestions.

My deck is casual and I don't play any infinite combos.

Thanks for your help!

With proliferate as a deck mechanic, this can become quite efficient. Add something that untaps an artifact and you have a fun engine!

PS: It's a good thing Paradox Engine is now banned in edh...

I think that the small textbox probably has to do with some sort of transformation, perhaps the creature gains a new, powerfull ability?

Each card text box is rather small, especially the left side, so whatever ability that's going to appear needs to be rather simple and short. Reminder text is thus improbable. Maybe the card turns into an enchantment? Otherwise, it could be a spin on kamigawa flip cards.

Difficult to say at this point.

I would have some counterspells for mass removal...

As I mentioned, the general doesn't need to have hexproof. Bant would work as these colors include most creatures with hexproof, shroud and indestructible. However, I would prefer a 2 color deck to avoid too much color fixing in the 99.

I am curious to hear about players which have experience using a similar deck with a certain degree of success...

Hi all,

I'd like your suggestions or decklinks for a deck featuring creatures with the hexproof ability, in order to better resist against targeted removal. I guess blue-green is an obvious direction to take, however I don't have any general in mind that could work nicely with this approach. I am at the earliest stage of construction so I don't have anything worked out yet, other than this main idea.

The general doesn't need to have hexproof, FYI.

Let me know if you can shed some ideas on the matter. I play casual games, no infinite combos, against good decks but nothing too competitive.

Thanks a lot!

OK, that's what I thought. With a Urza, Lord High Artificer, I guess it then truly becomes free.

Otherwise, I guess then that Thoughtcast gets to cost one 1 blue if you keep puting the drawn cards, namely artifacts for 0 cost into play, then keep the engine going until you combo off.