Quote from YWFMLF »It was a wagon that mislynched a town PR. Losing Town PRs is bad for town.
Quote from Lastwhisper »Basically, do you wolf read ZDS? And if so, why?
Quote from Lastwhisper »???
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »If I understand you correctly, you were stating that we had it, and just went the wrong way. But then you came in voting ZDS, because Zion might not be around the whole time.
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »What did you talk about last night that makes you want to vote ZDS over Zionite?
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »Your vote doesn't seem to suggest you believe what you are saying.
Quote from YWFMLF »...I mean...we have absolute confirmation that one WAS bad. It resulted in a mislynch of Town....that's bad. That you use present tense indicates you somehow disagree that lynching town is/was/will be bad for us.
Quote from YWFMLF »If we ended up on the "wrong one" why aren't you currently voting for the "right one"? It doesn't matter that Zion will be gone...you vote for the person you feel most confident is scum.
Quote from YWFMLF »...so the better wagon isn't the wagon you were plenty confident in D1 and have made cases about....its the one for whom you haven't even read yet.
Quote from Slothful »My plan was to make a case for it to the rest of the players, and try to convince them to move to Z.
Failing that, (and this is the part where everyone just stares at me in disbelief) I was going to propose we CFD Flarg (ideally Tom, but no way I was convincing anyone to follow me in that amount of time).
Yep, that's right: I shot down CFD all Day, only to turn around and advocate it last minute.
Except I didn't get to do that, did I, KC?
Quote from Slothful »BTW, answer this.
This is different than a "why did you hammer?" question, so the previous answers you gave on the subject don't fit.
It's a "how did you hammer?"
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »Earlier. Like a week ago. I really appreciate Shadow's games because he puts slightly more aggressive deadlines. We should have been to 2-3 wagons a week before deadline. Or someone should have been hardpushing someone else if those two wagons were not satisfactory.
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »Do you think I have that much influence on the game?
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »there should have been more consolidation
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »Would have tried for you, honestly.
Quote from YWFMLF »Sloth unvoting wouldn't have done anything since he was on the Zion wagon.
Quote from Gentleman Johnny »I would have advocated a CFD or Zionite. I wouldn't lynch a claimed Roleblocker.
Quote from Rhand »I don’t have a strong read on tubba. I don’t really get where all those tubba is town ideas come from (had that in my cell too), especially with KJ’s town flip.
Quote from Rhand »i already did the first half, I’ll post it when I’m at my laptop
Quote from YWFMLF »You have at least two people who say they're in the midst of catching up or taking a break and coming back. You need to explicitly be told to wait? These weren't hint enough?
Quote from Lastwhisper »KCC's vote is just garbage, there is no attempt to actually break down anything ZDS said as of yet
Quote from Rhand »I have started on a breakdown of the case, but it's becoming a huge wall and I don't think anyone will read it.
Quote from YWFMLF »KCC what the hell? Why throw a hammer down early? Especially when we have a questionable lurker finally beginning to at least twitch and at least one player talking about how they want to do an ISO on the two wagons.
Quote from Lastwhisper »@KCC
why did you hammer Killjoy like that?
Quote from Rhand »Flarg was so pure in our cell chat that I am sure he's town.
I invite everyone to actually click the links in ZDS's case and compare them to what ZDS is saying. There's a lot of exaggerations and smears in there.
ZDS is using busswords like "self-conscious" and "opportunistic" in places where it's totally unwarranted.
I have started on a breakdown of the case, but it's becoming a huge wall and I don't think anyone will read it.
Quote from Killjoy »KCC: Well lets try this: How do you usually read me? What do you look for in town KJ that's not here? Because you seem to scumreading me for what is here but is not in other games, which is the opposite of that, so.