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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    I feel like Russia should have been immune to that particular kill ability, but at least we won't need to deal with that again today

    Any results Last?
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from tomsloger »
    i dont think <the person thats forced to claim first> should automatically become the default lynch
    And I don't think we should run up random players 6 hours before deadline

    Quote from tomsloger »
    i dont think the reasons hes being voted are particularly indicative and he responded fine to a wagon, cantrip more likely to flip scum, and i care more about lynching scum than minimizing claims (though both would be nice)
    I'm not seeing it, and I'm a bit suspicious that this case didn't exist until 24 hours before deadline
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    @Anyone pushing a KK counterwagon from this point forward: I'm going to need to see not just why you think they are a better lynch, but why you think they are so much more likely to be scum that it's worth dumping more claims into the thread at this point. Or, why you don't care
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    10 hours left these wagons are officially the choices imo

    Kk (4): vezok, Rhand, Kcc, Last
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    @meg: I can kinda see a KK/Cantrip thing making sense, but it's pretty dependant on KK being scum to begin with...

    I mean, I do like the odds on KK, but I'm not going to start hunting for buddies without a flip
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    After people finish whatever reading they're doing and post final thoughts on the Day, I definitely want to follow through with this KK lynch. I think we have a good chance of hitting scum here, and running someone else up at this point isn't going to improve those odds at all, but it does make us more likely to out another power role.
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    I'm okay with the KK lunch in the "a bunch of people I think are town are saying he's a wolf and we should lunch him but I don't actively want to see his flip because I'd much rather see tom's" way.

    Like, no one seems to really care if he lives or not and that's, uh. A thing that his teammates might want to do if he had any? But I don't have anyone better at the moment, at least not with convincing evidence.

    Well, Vaimes took an interest in shutting down the wagon.
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from Vaimes »
    KCC, can you walk me through how KK has been scummy all Day? I'm going to reread a bit tomorrow, but I just want a condensed, in-your-own-words version of how you're viewing his play.

    Briefly, my main issues are that KKs involvement in silver vs Tom and the rhand vote both seem opportunistic. The reasoning for the rhand vote also felt more like a list of excuses to jump on the wagon. I also haven't liked how he's hedged his reads on Meg, though that's pretty dependant on my read being right there too. The recent TMI slip is stronger than all of that though.
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    the cop check is suspicious .
    I'm not clearing either of them on it yet, but I'm also not worried about it Today. And shadows posting was fine considering he was busy with another game at lylo
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from Vaimes »
    At the time I had no issue with it because, from my point of view, that's four villagers in a row on Rhand.

    Okay. And can you explain more your issues with the growth of the kk wagon?
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Panic?

    You don't think this...
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Mm, yeah, see this? This is suspicious wagon growth. I don't see how what KK said is indicative of anything, in context it was very obviously meant to be a silly quip to a "you're wrong, here's a vote" post.

    ...is an overreaction to 3 votes?
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Because I was townreading most of those naked votes? It wasn't even five, it was uh. Damn I forget, me/tom/one other townread, and meg.
    you, Tom, last, Vez, Meg
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from KoolKoal »
    @KCC: Shrugs I can’t really think of anything more to prove what I meant. You either believe me or you don’t.

    So I’ll just have to drop it unless you ask me a new question about it. Anything else is just going to be me repeating “You’re wrong.” over and over.

    I know. That's why I didn't even address that post to you in the first place, there's nothing to discuss here.

    @vaimes: Can you walk me through a bit why 5 rapid fire naked votes on rhand out of nowhere was fine. But just 3 explained votes on someone who has been scummy all day is cause for panic?
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from KoolKoal »
    No, I said that because all Rhand actually accused me of was being wrong. And it is, in fact, possible to be wrong and town at the same time.

    True. And that's a reasonable defense Day2, after pushing a lynch that flipped town Day1.
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Mm, yeah, see this? This is suspicious wagon growth. I don't see how what KK said is indicative of anything, in context it was very obviously meant to be a silly quip to a "you're wrong, here's a vote" post.

    Again, yes, obviously a silly quip, but not one that comes from someone who thinks they are right.
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from KoolKoal »
    Um, no?

    I was being sarcastic. Is that not obvious?

    I mean, yeah, it's obviously sarcasm, but that doesn't change anything?

    You sarcastically said...
    Quote from KoolKoal »
    Because being wrong is a scumtell Teach

    Unraveling the sarcasm here, you're saying being wrong is not a scumtell, and you shouldn't be voted for that. But... that entirely relies on you being wrong, and more importantly, being wrong and knowing that you are wrong


    -I'm way more confident on KK than Meg now. 0 chance of voting rhand
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  • posted a message on Eurovision Mafia - Day 2 - Блин! No more vodka!
    Quote from KoolKoal »
    Or, I said something I thought was quick and clever (It wasn’t, I was just tired-posting like an idiot again) and then came back to it with a fresh mind in the morning.

    That doesn't make it better. The fact you didn't think the post through actually makes it worse. Your snap reaction didn't come from a place of thinking you're right, but from a place of knowing you are wrong
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