Quote from purklefluff »Quote from WarMachinePrime »Quote from Colt47 »Quote from purklefluff »Too late. Already bought a box. Very happy with it, thankyou very much.
Oh dear. Did I ignore your whiny post about jace and actually *enjoy* a magic product? The sky is falling.
Hey, there's nothing wrong with buying a box of it. The primary thing to take away is just don't go crazy with buying a lot of it because the set is going to depreciate into the floor. Iconic Masters actually has a better selection of cards long term than Masters 25 does, it just suffered due to some bad marketing and a really nasty Christmas Season. I'd say picking up Eternal Masters is probably a better buy than either iconic or masters 25 and a week ago I'd have said getting a box of masters 2017 would have been worth the extra 80 dollars. I think that boat has sailed, though.
But yeah, the reasons to not buy a box are pretty good ones:
1) Very high RNG. You can be blown into the floor with this set due to the card distribution and the choice of mythics / rares.
2) Potential issues with the run. They've had some really bad randomization issues that don't appear like it would lead to box mapping, but the distribution does look kind of predictable so you sort of lose the excitement knowing you're about to get a blow out box or are about to get hosed.
3) Limited environment looks weak. Not that having strong archetypes is important, but they could have done better. At least it isn't as bad as metalcraft and Daybreak Coronet was. Then again is there even enough morph and cycling cards to do something in this set?
At the end of the day is the set going to sell? Yes, because if someone drops the price low enough and the hype train hasn't completely left the station like it did with iconic, the boxes should move. But, should this set have been sold as a 240 msrp set? Probably not. The company should probably keep the msrp flexible on the masters sets so if they need to print a legacy based one they can put the price down to 180 msrp or something.
Yep. Right now its value in nosediving towards Iconic with Iconic actually creeping up a bit. Its why I bought a box of Iconic at 120 USD shipped a couple of weeks ago. Got lucky that it was a very good box, still I could have lost money at 120 on it. Again, that is just from a monetary standpoint, not draft or personal value. A $180 MSRP is probably more reasonable. Again I'm not going to buy until I see boxes drop lower than 140, which they will in a few months time. Too much variability in boxes for me to buy on a whim, just for the "new" or "gotta have it" factor. I'll let others take the depreciation hit then buy singles as the prices bottom out and maybe pick up a box on the tail end when they hit rock bottom of 140 USD or less.
I'd urge others to consider this tactic as well.
I can't "lose money" on these boxes because I don't hold the stock-market mentality when it comes to purchasing sealed product. I pay no attention to EV, don't sell off the contents, so what does it matter?
Also I see a lot of people equating the contents of their opened boxes to a dollar value. This only makes sense if you actually sell your cards. You'd never *ever* purchase a box of mtg in order to get specific singles you need, so if you aren't selling those cards, stop equating them to money. If they stay in a drawer in your spare room for years, they are worth as much as the enjoyment you get from them and that's basically it.
I enjoy my cards. Bottom line.
It's not about selling the cards. The secondary market reacts to the demands of players and often tells the story of how heavily played the card is in it's given format(s). That's why Mox Opal and Chalice of the void are expensive cards: one is a sideboard card in legacy that sees extensive play and the other is a 4-of in just about any type of artifact centric deck, including cheerios, affinity, lantern control, and other established decks. That's also why I like commander because the played cards aren't through the roof, but have some indicator they see some play. Of course, then there's the old cards that are just expensive because of scarcity...