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Treasure Cruisin' Modern Big Red
 
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  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    People are worried about a creature tribal deck in modern that is good because of it's ability to answer the current and recent historic modern meta. It has no degenerate super speed like dredge, plays at the same pace as merfolk, and relies on UW tempo based effects to keep itself ahead on the board. Yes, it's a good deck, but honestly it seems really beatable.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the August 20, 2018 announcement?
    Quote from BlueTronFTW »
    Quote from Borachon »
    Ancient stirrings increases the diversity of Modern by increasing the consistency of a large number of turn 3-4 colorless combo decks, and recent hate cards (e.g. sphere) are good at keeping those in check. Faithless Looting does the same thing for red-based combo decks. Those are both good things. If particular decks are oo fast or too logistically awkward for large tournaments, that should be addressed separately on a deck-by-deck basis, not through a banning that decreases the diversity of the format.

    The problem isn't either of these cards - it's that color combinations that tend to include blue, with the exception of Izzet, don't have access to cards of similar power levels. To enable a broader range of blue-based strategies in that direction, I would unban one of ponder and dig through time, as well as Stoneforge Mystic to help white simply because there's no good reason for it to be banned.


    I generally agree with this sentiment. Tron, lantern, eldrazi have clear weaknesses. I would rather see KCI hit directly due to its speed, resilience to hate, and the time it takes to win. There's a line in my head - storm is just barely on one side, KCI is just barely on the other.


    There really isn't anything they could unban for blue that would make blue better. They have to print new cards to strengthen it or bring older blue cards into modern to give it more teeth. That and modern is broken in a sense because of the lack of benefits for going less than three colors. Legacy has the ability to go tall and has better land hate, which discourages going 3+ colors in many builds. The best thing wizards can do for modern to help control the go wide spread on colors is print Back to Basics and Price of Progress. I'd say adding Wasteland to modern would probably be fine as well.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on State of Standard Thread: bans, format health, metagame, rotation, etc!
    The Nexus of Fate has a price that is floating higher than normal because the only way to get them is to buy a box of Core 2019. After a certain point all the promos will be released to market and the price should come down.
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
  • posted a message on [GRN] Inspiring Captain (reprint)
    Right, and it would be hard to explain why your friend you shared the starter with can show up to FNM with his deck, but your deck is for some reason not legal for FNM.


    I guess I'm missing the part explaining how it's a good idea to show up with one of these starters to an FNM with a bunch of people who play standard constructed. Unless the idea is to play casually between matches I don't think it's going to end well.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Spellslinger Starter Kit
    These are designed to work with welcome decks. The welcome deck for green comes with a single llanowar elf and this comes with three. It also benefits from the cards in the welcome decks, both red and green.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Aazadan »
    Quote from Colt47 »

    If they print shocks, we probably wont see fetches. If we see fetches, we probably aren't seeing basic land types on the next land cycle.



    I doubt we will ever see fetches again in a Standard legal set. However, I do think it's possible that we see something that's of a similar power level one day like "tap, sac: look 10 deep, put a mountain, swamp, or island into play, put the rest on the bottom of your library". Basically, something that's strong/appealing but that eliminates shuffling.


    I think we will see shocks in the next few sets. If they are trying for the glory days, they will want it to get people playing again.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on WOTC Considering Modern Only Boosters
    Quote from the n00b king »
    So you want humans to get even better? Containment priest and Sanctum prelate would just be too much imho. Cards do not belong in modern. When blood moon isn't good enough...Back to basics. Not a chance they make this modern legal.

    I'd like to see things like Hesitation, Stifle, Standstill, Astral Slide, Veteran Explorer, Wall of Blossoms, Baleful Strix, Shardless Agent, Sterling Grove, Thran Dynamo.

    I'd love to add smokestack to that but that card is pure unfun so it's unlikely haha!

    Frankly a ton of commons and uncommons would help spice up the format in fun and new ways.


    You keep thinking humans is good when it relies on creatures 100% to operate thanks to the mana. I love playing creature decks because I like blowing stuff up and Finding increasingly creative ways to spread my special form of love. Back to basics gives me even more ways to crush these rainbow heretics to the ground.

    ... I'm fun at the gaming table? :p
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from Billiondegree »
    I, and many others, would love to have Birthing Pod come back. Even without any combos, it's the ultimate toolbox deck.

    I really am curious to know how well it would do in today's meta against humans, KCI, tron, and the rest of the field that did not exist in 2014.

    Of course it would probably make more sense to unban Green Sun's Zenith first as that card has had even less time being legal than Pod. I like the idea of a green creature toolbox deck.


    I got a playset of Splinter Twin and Birthing Pod sitting around because looking at the historic decks and their power level, they would easily work in a world where wizards of the coast starts supporting modern through some form of supplementary set, where cards can enter the format without going through standard. Given the survey it seems that is a direction the company is considering. Also, the B&R announcements happen often enough that if they wanted to unban either card it would be rather easy to go back on the decision.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on WOTC Considering Modern Only Boosters
    Arcane Artisan, Teferi's Protection, Containment Priest, Sanctum Prelate, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Back to Basics, etc. Those are cards I'd like to see.

    Also Brightling, because I love the artwork and the abilities are amazing on it.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Aazadan »

    Wouldn't the best case scenario be shocks?


    No. New mana can create new decks and competing cards still brings down the price. Shockland reprints only bring down the price.

    Of course, the worst case scenario is a land that's a strictly better shockland, and shocks go obsolete. That would put a very high price ceiling on the new land.


    The power creep in magic happened with creatures and they went through a brief period of nerfing lands. I'm firmly in the camp that we will see shocklands get reprinted, but the other possibilities are the enemy cycle of SOI block lands, the enemy cycle of the BFZ lands, or any number of new lands like ones that come into play untapped if you have a permanent of a specific color. At the end of the day the only ones that will matter to modern players are shocks and fetches, or any number of specialty lands that see heavy play.

    If they print shocks, we probably wont see fetches. If we see fetches, we probably aren't seeing basic land types on the next land cycle.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Reserved List Discussion
    My thoughts are the RL problem has nothing to do with the RL and everything to do with how modern is constrained by standard. You cant get what legacy offers in modern if they keep limiting what can be modern legal.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Polluted delta is a victim of demir being underpowered in terms of color combination. Sultai is even worse. Legacy has the spells needed to make blue competitive.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    DRS should never get unbanned. It looks fine on the surface until you realize the format has a lot of fetches and ways to fuel the graveyard early.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from BlueTronFTW »
    Well standard gets hate because it is long. They really should have stuck with the twice per year rotation plan. Then you don't have time for a deck or two to annoy the crap out of everyone.

    Reprint equity, if I understand correctly, really only applies to the number of cards reprinted, with a significantly lower factor being the number of times any particular card is reprinted. Thus, I'd rather a reprint set have more of an impact than having three reprint sets in a year. And by "impact," I mean an increase in production. I wasn't playing when the original masters set was released, but I read enough to know it was in super short supply and at a lower MSRP, but it got bought out so quickly that vendors started upping the price. So WOTC increased the MSRP. All that did, though, was give them a bigger piece of the pie. Given that they are in control of supply 100%, they also could have corrected this by increasing their production numbers.

    Plus, good reprint sets have effects beyond just "oh there's more now." The threat of reprints kept a lot of these cards in check. WOTC screwed the pooch so badly this year that investors and speculators no longer fear their cards being reprinted. That's why stuff shot up so much - confidence in WOTC's complete and total ineptitude.


    The issue wizards has with modern is that people are merging creatures from the last five years with spells that haven't been around for a decade and have been unwilling to reprint those decade old cards outside of a masters product. The cost of modern is not on the secondary market, but on wizards shoulders.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    Quote from BlueTronFTW »
    Yup, digital only card games aren't subject to shuffling tricks, trying to play an extra land, adding cards from home to your sealed pool, or moving a card from one zone to another. There's no attempts to rules-lawyer your way to a win, and no way to cheat then tell the judge "oh I didn't know it was exiled."


    Couple that with lack of prize support and worthwhile pay and it becomes a survival of the fittest situation. Wizards appears to believe that people will travel long distances and play at these events out of pocket, and a few people still do, but they can't grow the professional scene by not investing in the professional scene. The most they did was bring back modern and legacy as part of team trio. My guess is that they are having trouble sustaining any kind of paper tournament and are being forced to depend a lot on third parties for catering and prize support.
    Posted in: Modern
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