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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
    Quote from alanyuan0408 »

    Okay that makes sense. Back to my point, I feel this idea of putting multiple copies of a spell on to the stack in games such as commander just seems like a logistical nightmare waiting to happen. Especially when multiple spectacle cards are put onto the stack at the same time and people are responding while the Player B, C and D's original copies are still on the stack.

    Edit: I don't even want to think about how this will work if the casting player has a Hive Mind on the field...


    That's a thing that happens all the time in more casual games. Not saying that it can't be confusing and require the group to slow things down for a minute and piece through what resolves and when, but it's not like WotC has stopped that in the past.

    [Edit: Assuming that Spectacle works like all other alternate costs and copy abilities] If Hive Mind is out, nothing particularly special happens; each other player other than the one that Spectacle'd the spell would get 2 copies in sequential turn order (A, B, C, D, B, C, D)
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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
    Quote from alanyuan0408 »
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    I don't think they'd actually do this, but in my wildest dreams, Spectacle is "You may cast this for it's spectacle cost. If you do, each other player puts a copy of this spell onto the stack. They may choose new targets."
    Call it a hunch, but you may not be as far off as you think. After all, this makes a lot of sense with the exact design we see in the promo.


    I personally see two issues with a card like this:

    - This is way too complicated for a format like commander where there are 4 people and everyone gets triggers. This opens up a giant stack issue. Suppose Player A casts this. Player A Light the stage is on the stack, Then Player B, Player C, Player D. Player A resolves. Then Player B Resolve, picks up his 2 cards, then decides to respond to the stack while Player C's trigger is still on the stack. Player C responds to Player B's trigger with his own Spectacle card that adds 4 more triggers to the stack. This is just a disaster waiting to happen.



    A) That's not how the stack resolves
    B) That's not uncommon in Commander either.


    I wrote that with the ability in mind of "puts copies of this onto the stack" rather than something like Ad Nauseam where you need to finish resolving the Ad nauseam spell.

    Okay so lets just for argument sakes say this is Hive Mind.

    - Could you correct me where I was wrong in my interruption of the stack?

    - I'm willing to take back my point about commander but I still think this is a disaster waiting to happen


    Player A casts the spell
    Player B, C, and D will get copies, which go on the stack in that same order.
    Player D's copy will reserve first (not player A's), then C, B, and A.
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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
    Quote from alanyuan0408 »
    Quote from void_nothing »
    Quote from einhorn303 »
    I don't think they'd actually do this, but in my wildest dreams, Spectacle is "You may cast this for it's spectacle cost. If you do, each other player puts a copy of this spell onto the stack. They may choose new targets."
    Call it a hunch, but you may not be as far off as you think. After all, this makes a lot of sense with the exact design we see in the promo.


    I personally see two issues with a card like this:

    - This is way too complicated for a format like commander where there are 4 people and everyone gets triggers. This opens up a giant stack issue. Suppose Player A casts this. Player A Light the stage is on the stack, Then Player B, Player C, Player D. Player A resolves. Then Player B Resolve, picks up his 2 cards, then decides to respond to the stack while Player C's trigger is still on the stack. Player C responds to Player B's trigger with his own Spectacle card that adds 4 more triggers to the stack. This is just a disaster waiting to happen.



    A) That's not how the stack resolves
    B) That's not uncommon in Commander either.
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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
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    It could be a "If you cast it for it's Spectacle cost, you cannot cast any other spells this turn."

    Making a big spectacle to show off, but you always save your biggest stunt in a show for last.


    Impossible.

    Illuminate the Scene"? "Light the Stage"?
    2R
    Sorcery (U)
    Spectacle R
    Exile the top two cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you can play these cards.
    "Everyone to their posts" (???) -- Judith. Probably something like "Places, everyone!" in English


    You can play cards exiled with Illuminate the Scene, so any restriction would deny this card usability...


    More likely:
    You may play this card for its spectate cost if you played a creature this turn.


    That would be why the card states "Until the end of your NEXT turn, you can play these cards."
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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
    It could be a "If you cast it for it's Spectacle cost, you cannot cast any other spells this turn."

    Making a big spectacle to show off, but you always save your biggest stunt in a show for last.
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  • posted a message on [RNA] Leaked promo card
    I wonder if Spectacle will have anything to do with Flash. "If you pay this cards Spectacle cost, you may cast it any time you could a instant."


    There would have to be more to it than that. This card would never be cast the normal way then.
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  • posted a message on New planeswalker named Davriel
    I'm getting a very Nosferatu-vibe from his mask.
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  • posted a message on Ultimate Masters Box Pulls!
    I lucked out with a very good box.

    Box topper: Karakas

    Mythics:
    Lili
    Vengevine
    Leovold
    Cavern

    Rares:
    Eldrazi Conscription
    Reya Dawnbringer
    Wall of Reverence
    Back to Basics x2 (x1 foil)
    Dig Through Time
    Magus of the Bazaar
    Talrand, Sky Summoner
    Bridge From Below
    Demonic Tutor
    Reanimate
    Tasigur, the Golden Fang
    Seize the Day
    Life from the Loam
    Pattern of Rebirth
    Engineered Explosives
    Phyrexian Altar
    Desolate Lighthouse
    Flagstones of Trokair
    Lavaclaw Reaches
    Stirring Wildwood

    Cool foils:
    Fecundity
    Countersquall
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance Speculation
    Please... not another +1/+1 counter mechanic in Simic. Give us Meld or Host/Augment... please...
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Dig Through Time
    The art is confusing me...
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Spoils of the Vault
    Quote from PyreDream »
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    Quote from thatmarkguy »
    I liked when tutors were usually-uncommon and I feel this could have done well as a downshift.

    I suspect they would have downshifted the card had it been a sorcery. Funny implications with Crackling Drake if somebody felt so inclined.


    Paying UURRB for Demonic Tutor is certainly funny, old chap.


    Or UURRB to kill your opponent with a 17/X Drake out of no where...
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  • posted a message on Where do you buy Japanese Cards?
    I've gotten all of my foreign stuff (Korean, so it might be a little different from Japanese) from ebay. The shipping is sometimes higher than it should be, but must offer a discount with anything beyond the first.
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  • posted a message on Who should lead a Sans-R Walls Deck?
    From your options though, I prefer Ikra and Ishai.

    Edit: Sorry for the double post. I thought I was editing the previous one.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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