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Magic Market Index for April 20th, 2018
 
Pauper Review: Dominaria
 
The Limited Archetypes of Dominaria
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    I don't like the idea of banning Wraith, that would possibly kill all variations of Shadow. Death Shadow, while powerful, helps fight linear decks.


    It's so strange, it's not really 1 card in particular in that deck, the way it operates is strange

    You have to worry about the 1/2 that looks awful on paper, reoccurring threats, a 5/5 and a 4/4. The only solid way of beating that deck is with Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void, and then removal big enough for the big guys.

    It really makes playing fair silly, in my opinion. Even I'm having a hard time justifying playing something like Mardu, Abzan or Jund when I can just turn around and play this deck.


    I don't think this deck promotes fun gameplay, not usually. I feel like I'm either destroying my opponent in impossible situations to get out of, or my deck just falls apart and I can't do anything about it. The game just feels over when I drop a turn 1 Hollow One paired with either another Hollow one or even Bloodghast.

    Humans is a deck I like, even though it's results are fantastic, I think it's because it feels fruitless to play a slow, fair deck in modern that this is seeing such great results (although the deck is pretty damn good in general).

    Stoneforge mystic could be a pretty frustrating wall for Human players to deal with.



    Anyway, I'm sure Spiegel is spitting out the hyperbole---I just don't see how a reasonable person thinks Hollow One isn't a toxic deck.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    I don't think Humans is the problem, I think it's RB Hollow One.

    I voiced my concern for this deck a few months ago, and I don't feel differently. I have the deck in paper and on mtgo and none of it feels healthy for a modern; it feels toxic at times. It's made me lose interest in Jund because the deck just hands me so many free wins in a color pie I enjoy.

    Let's see what happens though.

    I used to be opposed to GSZ, but after seeing Jace being so underwhelming I'm willing to give it a try. If Dig Through Time wasn't so worrisome to powering up linear combo decks, I'd probably be ok with that card, too.


    Modern isn't bad but I think the format should be observed.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Jund
    Yeah, that looks reasonable. I'd probably turn that brutality into a decay though, and probably 1 push into a 2nd terminate.

    Don't like the sideboard

    With hollow one around I think 3x ooze seems right
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I own blue staples but I really have no clue why.


    I feel hesitant spending 40 dollars on manamorphose, I'm not even sure how legit it is.

    It does look like Jund is back to where it was, which is disappointing. I do think it's tier 2 now though, as opposed to being garbage tier before the ban.

    I'm not familiar enough with Mardu, but I think Shadow certainly looks well positioned again
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    Also, with Jace being a complete bust, both flavors of Shadow seems really good again, since they punish linear combo and aggro.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    Who knows, maybe BBE isn't for Jund.

    The cards that BBE can flip is certainly better than years ago, but Shaman providing turn 2 LOTV's and turn 3 BBE's was also more oppressive. BBE is so good against fair decks, but I was not happy to see it against burn or humans.


    I do think Hollow One is bad for this format. I actually wrote about how unhealthy I thought this deck was a while ago in the modern ban thread, I noted that it's way more consistent than people realized and wasn't "spinning the wheel".

    Kalitas is looking fantastic. I wonder if Jund should go back to just playing 2x 4 mana creatures again, or if it should play 2x BBE, 1x Kalitas, 1x Grim lamvamancer. I don't even know anymore.


    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I'd like to know why. I basically owned most of Mardu, just had to purchase the Revlers and 2x Pyromancers.


    I started tinkering with Hollow One before I stopped posting for a bit, it was giving me more free wins than Jund, and so many broken openers.

    Did the meta adjust too much or is BBE just too clunky in this deck?


    And yeah, school got really overwhelming, I've been in the library every weekend lately. Just a 7 page paper and 2 presentations left before graduating


    Then i have a 2 year grind of practice and supervision to get my clinical license for therapy before making money above the poverty line Shocked
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I've been super busy with the end of my master's program so I haven't watched or played much MTG

    Have a lot of the jund players decided Jund is just not---good? Dylan Donegan said that Mardu has basically become the new Jund midrange deck of choice.

    I had expressed that I was going 2-2 a lot with Jund at my FNM, it felt like there was raw power but I was underperforming, and felt like the meta was against me.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] Mardu (Dega/BWR) Midrange
    I've been super busy with the end of my master's program so I haven't watched or played much MTG

    Have a lot of the jund players decided Jund is just not---good? Dylan Donegan said that Mardu has basically become the new Jund midrange deck of choice.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 16/04/2018)
    It seems like it would be a huge headache going through so many cards and giving them a grade and point scale. It could be done, but almost no one has the time to do that.

    It seems weird giving Death's Shadow such a high rating, as players would sometimes feel like it was almost a combo card in itself.

    Something like Snapcaster should get about as many interaction points as possible, as the potential is so high.

    I mean, technically something like Burning inquiry is really high on interaction, but if your opponent suddenly drops 2 4/4 Hollow Ones before you even make a land drop, how interactive and fair is that?

    There's this weird, intrinsic interaction and fair scale, too.



    Tron's blowout cards are super interactive, but they can be deployed so fast that it doesn't feel fair
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on GP Hartford Discussion
    Quote from purklefluff »
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    Quote from purklefluff »
    So Matt Nass won!

    With KCI no less. Haha that's a turn up for the books and a welcome fringe deck to get a decent result. Good for him! Shaheen Soorani put me on the deck a while back and I've loved the mix of grind-ability, maindeck interaction and decent combo that the deck utilises. It's a real old-school magic deck in the way it plays.

    Amulet titan taking second in the finals? Be still my beating heart haha another fringe low tier deck doing well? This is an advert for the "play what you know" mantra of modern. Good stuff!

    Elves!? Sure, just load this top 8 with fun fringe decks haha.

    Bogles =S oof! Bogles is kinda weird and never breaks anything, but two of them in the top 8 indicates that 1) they got lucky with their matchups and 2) there must have been a lot of midrange and affinity at the tournament. OH WAIT THERE WAS

    Burn? We're used to seeing burn


    Overall these are some great results. We know from the stats that this GP was brimming with midrange decks, and that affinity has been on an 'upswing' like it does every couple of months. That's nothing new and actually in terms of meta, this is what everyone keeps saying they want. More interactive magic. And what happens when the majority of your field is packing fatal push and bolt as their removal? Two bogles decks take advantage of this and get through to the top 8 haha.

    You get what you wish for.

    Kci sharing the finals with amulet is just joyous though. What a day for fringe nonsense.


    These aren't good results, in a garbage top 8 of uninteractive trash.


    The GP top 8s have honestly been a mess; while SCG has some some nice looking top 32s and top 8s, the pro's and heavy grinders at the GP's elect to show up with decks that don't interact.

    The Protour had good results, but the GP top 8s this year have been gross. Let's not forget we had several GP top 8s where multiple Tron decks populated the top 8.




    you need to check your biases dude. I'm not going to go deep into this, but you've crossed the line where your comments have become comical hyperbole and it doesn't work anymore.


    No need to attack me personally.

    Let's take a look at some of the more recent events of the modern GPs. I'm excluding the team trios, because those are a little more dicey to examine.

    GP Hartford top 8
    Ironworks
    Amulet Titan
    Burn
    Elves
    Bogles
    Affinity
    Bogles
    Hollow One

    GP Lyon
    RG Eldrazi
    Abzan midrange
    Mono G Tron
    Mono G Tron
    Mono G Tron
    Jeskai Control
    Abzan midrange
    Mono G Tron

    GP Toronto
    Bogles
    Burn
    Jeskai Control
    Griselbrand
    Elves
    Traverse Shadow
    Affinity
    Burn
    (This GP I can take or leave, it's the least disastrous of the most recent events)

    And---While I did say 2018, I did want to mention this little nugget that happened just before the ProTour

    GP Oklohoma
    Scapeshift
    Scapeshift
    Dredge
    BG Tron
    Jeskai Breach
    Mono G Tron
    Living End
    Mono G Tron

    ------

    So, I'm being comically hyperbolic, eh? I didn't claim that modern was doom and gloom, or unplayable, or anything like that. I even praised the results of SCG's results, and made no attacks towards people's experiences at their FNMS or MTGO. All I said was that the modern GP results have been ugly. And they have been. They've been dominated by ugly, linear decks, which the pros elect to play


    So you can attack me, and call me hyberbolic, but I don't think those four recentish GP top 8s call me crazy or bias. In no way do I see Tron decks dominating two of those four GPs as crazy on my part. The GP Toronto, while not awful, isn't great either. This result list I'm at list willing to admit maybe I'm being a little biased

    This recent top 8 is ugly as hell, and paints a picture of not wanting to interact with your opponent. I'm glad you think Ironworks is neat, and have a love for Amulet Titan decks, but it was a bad GP

    On an individual level, there's nothing wrong with Ironworks or Amulet Titan, it's the broad scope of the picture that is an issue, not the decks (Although I'm not crazy about Hollow One being healthy for the format)


    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on GP Hartford Discussion
    Quote from purklefluff »
    So Matt Nass won!

    With KCI no less. Haha that's a turn up for the books and a welcome fringe deck to get a decent result. Good for him! Shaheen Soorani put me on the deck a while back and I've loved the mix of grind-ability, maindeck interaction and decent combo that the deck utilises. It's a real old-school magic deck in the way it plays.

    Amulet titan taking second in the finals? Be still my beating heart haha another fringe low tier deck doing well? This is an advert for the "play what you know" mantra of modern. Good stuff!

    Elves!? Sure, just load this top 8 with fun fringe decks haha.

    Bogles =S oof! Bogles is kinda weird and never breaks anything, but two of them in the top 8 indicates that 1) they got lucky with their matchups and 2) there must have been a lot of midrange and affinity at the tournament. OH WAIT THERE WAS

    Burn? We're used to seeing burn


    Overall these are some great results. We know from the stats that this GP was brimming with midrange decks, and that affinity has been on an 'upswing' like it does every couple of months. That's nothing new and actually in terms of meta, this is what everyone keeps saying they want. More interactive magic. And what happens when the majority of your field is packing fatal push and bolt as their removal? Two bogles decks take advantage of this and get through to the top 8 haha.

    You get what you wish for.

    Kci sharing the finals with amulet is just joyous though. What a day for fringe nonsense.


    These aren't good results, in a garbage top 8 of uninteractive trash.


    The GP top 8s have honestly been a mess; while SCG has some some nice looking top 32s and top 8s, the pro's and heavy grinders at the GP's elect to show up with decks that don't interact.

    The Protour had good results, but the GP top 8s this year have been gross. Let's not forget we had several GP top 8s where multiple Tron decks populated the top 8.


    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on GP Hartford Discussion
    Quote from headminerve »
    It's just one event guys. Decks that top8'd did so because they preyed on the most popular/expected decks. Humans was a deck to beat, and it's not in the top8 because players prepared for it.
    Nobody was prepared for KCI or Bogles, next tournament will tell another story. To me, this event shows the metagame is adjusting, not that the format is shifting towards an ugly metagame.

    About the unbans, I believe GSZ would be a very strong addition to the format, helping Infect, Bogles, potentially other combo decks by being just a bit better than either Chord or Evolution.


    ...It's not.

    While the SCG's have been fine, the GP top 8 results in 2018 have been awful.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Jund
    My subscription for Premium expired and they doubled the price for Starcity. No way am I paying 100 dollars a year to read articles.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Jund
    I have been crazy unimpressed with Anger. It's felt so bad, especially on the draw.
    Posted in: Midrange
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