I've been trying to think for a while of a way to make balanced land hate and this is the working attempt.
Restore the Wilds RG
Sorcery
Destroy target land, that lands controller may search his or her library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped, if he or she does, search your library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped.
Also, because I think this should exist:
Flood Moon 2U
Enchantment
All nonbasic lands are islands
I know this isn't the card creation thread but if shadow and eldrazi are really an issue what would help a lot is splashable "big creature hate"
Reprieve W
Enchantment
Creatures with power 4 or greater can't attack or block.
At the beginning of your upkeep if you control 4 or more lands sacrifice Reprieve.
Im curious about the story behind Mathes the fiend hunter. Fiend hunter would imply he kills monsters...but then he's a vamp..disconnect?
As for Taigam's role and Alison's lore knowledge i think its more that WOTC hasnt decided what they want to do w/ character/worlds yet so they dont want to get written into a corner. As such Luhrs cant confirm answers because the answers arent known yet.
I play 1 md beast within but my demonic dread enabler has always been forbidden orchard. Has that card fallen out of favor? I feel like if you are only including beast within to give yourself a dread target orchard is just better.
I am very excited for Ixalan, I just hope it doesn't prevent the possibility of a Muraganda block somewhere down the line. Pirates/lost cities/Mesoamerica world is awesome, but it's different from a Primal Nature vs Remnants of Civilization world, and tha's something that I'd like to see at some point.
Do we have confirmation that the Wizards deck is Grixis colors?
Also, a couple things from the podcast:
Im stoked that there's a tarkir vamp in the vamp deck and i really hope its not just a Kheru facestealer reprint. The Tarkiri vampires are far and away my favorite vamps in mtg.
Second, its cool to learn that the Stromkirks were fully down for eldrazification. It makes me even more curious to see what condition Runo is in whenever we get a card for him.
I really enjoyed today's story, thought it was great, and probably the thing I liked most was how well the Author showed how much Bolas was enjoying himself. Throughout the entire story you really get a sense that this is someone who's been waiting for something for a very long time and now that it's here he's going to bask in every moment. I don't really mind Bolas being hammy because 1) as others have said this has always been his character, and 2)from the beginning of the story it is made very clear Bolas is not taking this fight seriously, whatever it may mean to the GW, to Bolas this is just a bit of fun, so he's going to play with his food and put on a show. There's nothing wrong with having villains who are "evil cuz it's fun" mustache twirlers as long as they're done well, and in this case I think it was.
Well, on the subject of the Amonkhet gods, one thing I'm very interested in learning is what hsppens to Locust and Scarab. Will Bolas take thrm with him? If he doesnt will they just start randomly terroizing the wastes and hounding survivors or will they sort of shut down? My hope is they'll eventually be restored to their original forms but im unsure of how that would happen.
I agree that it is unlikely, but i think it's doable. Especially if future Theros sets deal with an increasingly overbearing Heliod or a loss of faith from the mortals I could see a flavor of "these are the alliances the gods are making for this conflict"
Iroas & Mogis (Mardu, flavored as war coming together to compete/prove their strength)
Kruphix & rg god (temur,flavored as Kruphix watching over the newly born god)
Ephara & Keranos (jeskai, the gods most concerned w/ epiphany and wisdom sticking together)
Karametra & Athreos (abzan, Karametra cares for Setessa and the safety of mortals, Athreos only cares about making sure the dead go to the underworld, they're both very "this is the way things are" gods to me so i could see them being pro status quo in whatever the larger storyline is)
Phenax & Pharika (sultai, we know Phenax is a schemer, we dont know all that much about Pharika's hopes/desires, for the purpose of a full shard cycle i could see these two as an alliance of convenience)
As i said, i think it's unlikely. It's hard for me to see them printing a brand new rg god w/o giving it it's own card. However, I feel team-ups could easily be flavored and designed that would allow all the gods to appear as cards while saving on space.
I think as cards the Theros gods are more interesting, but as characters both pantheons have been great. And guys, we need the duel colored minor gods so we can get more Kruphix, c'mon now.
One direction that i think could be taken is partnering up the minor gods. For example having a mardu card called "the twins of war" that shows Iroas and Mogis. That would be a way to have cards for all the minor gods while not eating up all the space for mythics and making a huge number of god cards. It would put some wedge/shard colored cards in an otherwise monocolor set but i think a cycle of 5 3-color cards at mythic isn't too excessive.
I believe so. At least in a figurative way (he granted young Gideon the indestructible aura).
But we know ('know') Heliod was once a man named Heliud, and the similarities between their stories are very interesting.
How do we know this? I haven't read "The Purifying Fire" but I know about the Order of Heliud and I thought that this was a mystery that hadn't been explained yet. Is there more info somewhere that hints Heliud was a man who ascended to godhood? If so would you mind putting it up here? I'm not doubting you I just didn't know that was out there and am curious :B
As to the main topic of the thread I'm hoping Heliod will turn out to Gid's dad. It would explain a lot and make for a cool storyline, I think it's worth a small retcon.
I'm pretty buthurt that we aren't getting a naga/snakes or sea monster deck. That siad, now that it's looking like Dragons, Cats, Vampires, and Humans, what are some returning legends we may see?
In Vampires:
I agree that Edgar Markov is a shoe-in, Runo Stromkirk and the Falkenrath progenitors are also possible bu that might be a little Innistrad heavy.
In Dragons:
I think we kind of know who all is in here at this point
In cats:
I be surprised if Marisi isn't in here, beyond that I can't really think of too many notable cats from existing lore who don't already have cards. Maybe the Theran leonin Ajani was friends with? I forget her name.
In Humans:
Starting off, I don't know for sure humans is the last tribe. The picture on the CMDR2017 homepage certainly shows a human but the deck could be wizards, clerics, soldiers etc. Assuming however that it is a human deck I would hope to see:
Rem Karolos, slayer of whatever you need him to slay, Ashnod, the uncaring, Xantcha, Phyrexian Renegade. I can't think of anyone else atm but I'm pretty sure there are boatloads of humans from the lore who could be given a card.
I doubt Bolas will bother with Theros. He wasted a day or two subduing Amonkhet's gods as an Oldwalker. He's not going to bother with a pantheon of 14 even more powerful gods in his diminished state even with their lack of cohesive agendas. Not while there are many other more convenient worlds IMO.
Furthermore I wonder what Kruphix thinks not only of Bolas, but also of the fact that other pantheons of gods exist. Would he favour working together with them using planeswalkers as 'bridges' or would he see them as rivals?
I'm not gonna lie: Seeing the head honchos of different planes collaborate using planeswalkers as middlemen would be interesting to see.
It's more interesting in this case because IRL Ancient Egypt and Greece had history together.
That said, unless leyline shenanigans revive the dead gods and/or creates new ones, Hazoret would be the only divinity we know he'd be able to talk to in this scenario.
That would be amazing to see. Reminds me of Avacyn employing Vronos in order to return and cure Garuuk. I'm honestly so upset they killed Avacyn. It's just absurd beyond belief what they did to Innistrad. The story and Cosmic Horror tropes were brilliant and on point though. Still, lame.
I dont know that the theran gods are more powerful than the amonkhetu gods (though there certainly more of them) if anything the theran pantheon has a more exploitable weakness since they are dependant on devotion. I doubt we'll ever know but i would guess that in a 1v1 brawl Hazoret and purphoros are roughly equal
I wonder if, the next time we see Hazoret, she has only one arm, or has an artificial arm made of gold. Replacing body parts with gold seems like the thing Amonkheti gods would do.
Furthermore I wonder what Kruphix thinks not only of Bolas, but also of the fact that other pantheons of gods exist. Would he favour working together with them using planeswalkers as 'bridges' or would he see them as rivals?
Kruphix already knows Bolas exists, and doesn't think the pantheon could defeat him. I think Kruphix wouldn't be shocked at the existence of other pantheons, from the story with Kydele we know he already suspected that there might be other gods on other worlds, or beings similar to gods at least. I doubt very much that other members of the pantheon would be level-headed about it though. If Heliod was disturbed by the idea of pw I think the idea of other gods would send him into a fury. Although I could see Heliod wanting to join with other gods in an effort to exterminate pw, kind of in a "preserve the status quo" sort of way. As for Kruphix, I think as long as something doesn't directly threaten Theros in a major way he seems to have a pretty hands off live and let live approach.
Restore the Wilds RG
Sorcery
Destroy target land, that lands controller may search his or her library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped, if he or she does, search your library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped.
Also, because I think this should exist:
Flood Moon 2U
Enchantment
All nonbasic lands are islands
Reprieve W
Enchantment
Creatures with power 4 or greater can't attack or block.
At the beginning of your upkeep if you control 4 or more lands sacrifice Reprieve.
Yes but im curious what world this is happening on, not Innistrad I think.
As for Taigam's role and Alison's lore knowledge i think its more that WOTC hasnt decided what they want to do w/ character/worlds yet so they dont want to get written into a corner. As such Luhrs cant confirm answers because the answers arent known yet.
Also, a couple things from the podcast:
Im stoked that there's a tarkir vamp in the vamp deck and i really hope its not just a Kheru facestealer reprint. The Tarkiri vampires are far and away my favorite vamps in mtg.
Second, its cool to learn that the Stromkirks were fully down for eldrazification. It makes me even more curious to see what condition Runo is in whenever we get a card for him.
Iroas & Mogis (Mardu, flavored as war coming together to compete/prove their strength)
Kruphix & rg god (temur,flavored as Kruphix watching over the newly born god)
Ephara & Keranos (jeskai, the gods most concerned w/ epiphany and wisdom sticking together)
Karametra & Athreos (abzan, Karametra cares for Setessa and the safety of mortals, Athreos only cares about making sure the dead go to the underworld, they're both very "this is the way things are" gods to me so i could see them being pro status quo in whatever the larger storyline is)
Phenax & Pharika (sultai, we know Phenax is a schemer, we dont know all that much about Pharika's hopes/desires, for the purpose of a full shard cycle i could see these two as an alliance of convenience)
As i said, i think it's unlikely. It's hard for me to see them printing a brand new rg god w/o giving it it's own card. However, I feel team-ups could easily be flavored and designed that would allow all the gods to appear as cards while saving on space.
One direction that i think could be taken is partnering up the minor gods. For example having a mardu card called "the twins of war" that shows Iroas and Mogis. That would be a way to have cards for all the minor gods while not eating up all the space for mythics and making a huge number of god cards. It would put some wedge/shard colored cards in an otherwise monocolor set but i think a cycle of 5 3-color cards at mythic isn't too excessive.
How do we know this? I haven't read "The Purifying Fire" but I know about the Order of Heliud and I thought that this was a mystery that hadn't been explained yet. Is there more info somewhere that hints Heliud was a man who ascended to godhood? If so would you mind putting it up here? I'm not doubting you I just didn't know that was out there and am curious :B
As to the main topic of the thread I'm hoping Heliod will turn out to Gid's dad. It would explain a lot and make for a cool storyline, I think it's worth a small retcon.
In Vampires:
I agree that Edgar Markov is a shoe-in, Runo Stromkirk and the Falkenrath progenitors are also possible bu that might be a little Innistrad heavy.
In Dragons:
I think we kind of know who all is in here at this point
In cats:
I be surprised if Marisi isn't in here, beyond that I can't really think of too many notable cats from existing lore who don't already have cards. Maybe the Theran leonin Ajani was friends with? I forget her name.
In Humans:
Starting off, I don't know for sure humans is the last tribe. The picture on the CMDR2017 homepage certainly shows a human but the deck could be wizards, clerics, soldiers etc. Assuming however that it is a human deck I would hope to see:
Rem Karolos, slayer of whatever you need him to slay, Ashnod, the uncaring, Xantcha, Phyrexian Renegade. I can't think of anyone else atm but I'm pretty sure there are boatloads of humans from the lore who could be given a card.
I dont know that the theran gods are more powerful than the amonkhetu gods (though there certainly more of them) if anything the theran pantheon has a more exploitable weakness since they are dependant on devotion. I doubt we'll ever know but i would guess that in a 1v1 brawl Hazoret and purphoros are roughly equal
Kruphix already knows Bolas exists, and doesn't think the pantheon could defeat him. I think Kruphix wouldn't be shocked at the existence of other pantheons, from the story with Kydele we know he already suspected that there might be other gods on other worlds, or beings similar to gods at least. I doubt very much that other members of the pantheon would be level-headed about it though. If Heliod was disturbed by the idea of pw I think the idea of other gods would send him into a fury. Although I could see Heliod wanting to join with other gods in an effort to exterminate pw, kind of in a "preserve the status quo" sort of way. As for Kruphix, I think as long as something doesn't directly threaten Theros in a major way he seems to have a pretty hands off live and let live approach.