I am trying the gifts sideboard next week per the suggestion of one of the better players at my store. Iona can crush so many matchups, and most removal and graveyard hate would have been sided out after game one. I can also just get fogs with gifts. I will try this out next week. What are your thoughts on the SB? I am including Swan Songs over Spell Pierce because they can counter eidolon and protect my board. The downside is that they don't deal with planeswalkers. I know that this is weak to tron, but I am focusing on beating everything else, as I have no idea on how to approach this well. The tron player at my store runs one of each eldrazi titan... Is only two Sphinx's Tutelage enough? I can still naturally mill without more.
What are your thoughts on this list? I will post my results next week.
I think that Day's Undoing could be a good way to refill our hand if we are using planeswalkers like Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Gideon, or even Garruk, Apex Predator or Koth of the Hammer depending on your colors. I think that 'walkers are the best way to go after mill, as they are the hardest to interact with, and are much cheaper to cast then the Eldrazi. Also, it would be harder to include cards like Riot Control or Safe Passage, as they only prevent damage dealt to players. Giving our opponent a new hand is a drawback, but our turbo is drawing them so many cards that this may be irrelevant. I might include this in my list instead of the Sphinx's Tutelage and add the 'walkers depending on my results tomorrow. Would you recommend replacing some of the turbo, fogs, or both for these?
As for a Kami of False HopeEmeria, the Sky Ruin lock, it's great once in place, but the Kami is very risky before then. We would be enabling all of our opponents instant removal spells, so we would need other fogs in hand as backup. By the time it would be online on turn 9 at the earliest, we should have enough turbo to consistently draw fogs, or something like Day's Undoing to refill our hand. If there are some open sideboard slots, it could be worth running a few copies of Emeria main, and siding in the Kamis game two after their removal is sided out. We would also need to be base white with all of our other colors coming from shocks or the new tango lands to meet the 7 plains requirement. I thinks it may be worth a try with two or so kamis, and would be interested to hear how it goes.
Thanks for the feedback. I am planning to get to an FNM this week, but I might have a scheduling conflict. If I go I will post my results this weekend. I am removing the temple bell in the main for an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre . I'm keeping all four copies Dictate of Kruphix because I don't want to get blown out turn three after tapping out for a temple bell.
Hello, here is a list that I am planning on piloting at my LGS next week. This will be my first modern tournament, so I was wondering if I have any glaring omissions or things that could be improved on.
I am planning to win via the mill route game one, but will bring in elspeth, sun's champion if needed. I was considering angelic ascension in that slot, but I am worried about post board enchantment hate destroying it before it gets online.
I am running Jace Beleren and Mikokoro, Center of the Sea to diversify my turbo. I am very worried about artifact and enchantment hate post board, as most of my turbo is artifacts and enchantments. I feel like I an protect the Jace since I am running three mainboard Leyline of Sanctity and all but four fogs protect him. The leylines are there because we would lose so hard to certain decks game one without them. I need to test what is the correct number of Temple Bell and Dictate of Kruphix, since the bell has a much easier mana cost, but is vulnerable to Ancient Grudge.
I run 21 fog effects including Supreme Verdict.
I may cut the single Dawn Charm as the last mode is usually irrelevant with three leylines.
The Supreme Verdict is there to prevent blue based aggro decks from amassing lethal and countering all my fogs in a turn. The rest of the fogs are pretty standard.
I am running UW instead of Esper so I don't take as much pain from my mana base. Kabira Crossroads is there for lifegain, since I found that the colorless mana from Radiant Fountain or Glimmerpost was next to useless some games.
Sideboard Explanations:
Kami of the Crescent Moon- I am assuming that most non red decks will board out their creature removal in favor of artifact and enchantment hate, and this would replace two of the temple bells or dictates. I'm still not sure that he will make the cut. I am also considering Dakra Mystic here.
Leyline of Sanctity- This is there for redundancy. Is four too many? I figured that I would need all four to combat enchantment hate.
Meddling Mage- I run this over Nevermore for the same reasons as Kami of the Crescent Moon. The plan is to play this against tron naming something like Karn Liberated and protect it. It Also has the potential to slowly beat down.
Negate- This protects my meddling mages and will counter most problem spells in tron.
For other answers for tron, would Mindbreak Trap or Jester's Cap be viable? Mindbreak Trap can "counter" Emerakul. It would still cost the full four, but its versatility may make up for the casting cost. I know that Jester's Cap is not the fastest option, but I like the idea of exiling emerakul before he hits the field, as well as any oblivion stones as well. Do I need to include cards like Detention Sphere, Stasis Snare, and Rest in Peace?
This is a modified version with a different SB of the deck that I played at a local tournament last week.
4x Holy Day
4x Ethereal Haze
4x Pollen Lullaby
2x Riot Control
3x Supreme Verdict
Turbo
4x Howling Mine
4x Dictate of Kruphix
2x Jace Beleren
2x Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
2x Nevermore
1x Detention Sphere
3x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Sphinx's Tutelage
Other Lands
4x Flooded Strand
4x Polluted Delta
4x Hallowed Fountain
1x Godless Shrine
3x Island
6x Plains
4x Gifts Ungiven
1x Iona, Shield of Emeria
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Unburial Rites
3x Kor Firewalker
4x Swan Song
1x Leyline of Sanctity
I am trying the gifts sideboard next week per the suggestion of one of the better players at my store. Iona can crush so many matchups, and most removal and graveyard hate would have been sided out after game one. I can also just get fogs with gifts. I will try this out next week. What are your thoughts on the SB? I am including Swan Songs over Spell Pierce because they can counter eidolon and protect my board. The downside is that they don't deal with planeswalkers. I know that this is weak to tron, but I am focusing on beating everything else, as I have no idea on how to approach this well. The tron player at my store runs one of each eldrazi titan... Is only two Sphinx's Tutelage enough? I can still naturally mill without more.
What are your thoughts on this list? I will post my results next week.
As for a Kami of False Hope Emeria, the Sky Ruin lock, it's great once in place, but the Kami is very risky before then. We would be enabling all of our opponents instant removal spells, so we would need other fogs in hand as backup. By the time it would be online on turn 9 at the earliest, we should have enough turbo to consistently draw fogs, or something like Day's Undoing to refill our hand. If there are some open sideboard slots, it could be worth running a few copies of Emeria main, and siding in the Kamis game two after their removal is sided out. We would also need to be base white with all of our other colors coming from shocks or the new tango lands to meet the 7 plains requirement. I thinks it may be worth a try with two or so kamis, and would be interested to hear how it goes.
The Elspeth, Sun's Champion and Kami of the Crescent Moon are being replaced with Jester's Cap. Would it be worth splashing black to add Memoricide or red for crumble to dust instead?
4x Flooded Strand
3x Hallowed Fountain
2x Island
3x Kabira Crossroads
2x Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
5x Plains
3x Polluted Delta
2x Tranquil Cove
Sorcery (3)
3x Supreme Verdict
2x Jace Beleren
2x Angel's Grace
1x Dawn Charm
4x Ethereal Haze
4x Holy Day
4x Pollen Lullaby
2x Riot Control
Enchantment (9)
4x Dictate of Kruphix
3x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Sphinx's Tutelage
Artifact (4)
4x Howling Mine
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
3x Jester's Cap
1x Leyline of Sanctity
4x Meddling Mage
4x Negate
3x Runed Halo
4x Flooded Strand
3x Hallowed Fountain
2x Island
3x Kabira Crossroads
2x Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
5x Plains
3x Polluted Delta
2x Tranquil Cove
Sorcery (3)
3x Supreme Verdict
2x Jace Beleren
2x Angel's Grace
1x Dawn Charm
4x Ethereal Haze
4x Holy Day
4x Pollen Lullaby
2x Riot Control
Enchantment (9)
4x Dictate of Kruphix
3x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Sphinx's Tutelage
Artifact (5)
4x Howling Mine
1x Temple Bell
1x Elspeth, Sun's Champion
2x Kami of the Crescent Moon
1x Leyline of Sanctity
4x Meddling Mage
4x Negate
3x Runed Halo
Explanations:
I am planning to win via the mill route game one, but will bring in elspeth, sun's champion if needed. I was considering angelic ascension in that slot, but I am worried about post board enchantment hate destroying it before it gets online.
I am running Jace Beleren and Mikokoro, Center of the Sea to diversify my turbo. I am very worried about artifact and enchantment hate post board, as most of my turbo is artifacts and enchantments. I feel like I an protect the Jace since I am running three mainboard Leyline of Sanctity and all but four fogs protect him. The leylines are there because we would lose so hard to certain decks game one without them. I need to test what is the correct number of Temple Bell and Dictate of Kruphix, since the bell has a much easier mana cost, but is vulnerable to Ancient Grudge.
I run 21 fog effects including Supreme Verdict.
I may cut the single Dawn Charm as the last mode is usually irrelevant with three leylines.
The Supreme Verdict is there to prevent blue based aggro decks from amassing lethal and countering all my fogs in a turn. The rest of the fogs are pretty standard.
I am running UW instead of Esper so I don't take as much pain from my mana base. Kabira Crossroads is there for lifegain, since I found that the colorless mana from Radiant Fountain or Glimmerpost was next to useless some games.
Sideboard Explanations:
Kami of the Crescent Moon- I am assuming that most non red decks will board out their creature removal in favor of artifact and enchantment hate, and this would replace two of the temple bells or dictates. I'm still not sure that he will make the cut. I am also considering Dakra Mystic here.
Leyline of Sanctity- This is there for redundancy. Is four too many? I figured that I would need all four to combat enchantment hate.
Meddling Mage- I run this over Nevermore for the same reasons as Kami of the Crescent Moon. The plan is to play this against tron naming something like Karn Liberated and protect it. It Also has the potential to slowly beat down.
Negate- This protects my meddling mages and will counter most problem spells in tron.
Runed Halo- I have this here for Eidolon of the Great Revel, and it is broader that Circle of Protection: Red, such as giving me a full 7 cards to deal with Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle in Scapeshift. I think this is better against burn than Kor Firewalker.
For other answers for tron, would Mindbreak Trap or Jester's Cap be viable? Mindbreak Trap can "counter" Emerakul. It would still cost the full four, but its versatility may make up for the casting cost. I know that Jester's Cap is not the fastest option, but I like the idea of exiling emerakul before he hits the field, as well as any oblivion stones as well. Do I need to include cards like Detention Sphere, Stasis Snare, and Rest in Peace?
Thanks, any feedback would be appreciated.