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  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    SFM unban would probably be pretty good. However I have no idea how I would approach the deckbuilding of a new deck. Making space for 7 cards would probably be -2 kitesail -2tidehollow -3 strangler ti replace with 4 SFM and 3 artifacts. Would make the deck less disruptive but much easier on the mana and objectively stronger.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Deck really is a great option for full midrange experience on so much lower budget compared to Abzan and Jund.

    Something that would completely bail us out would be something like BAD VINDICATE Sorcery 1WB Destroy target nonbasic land or non creature permanent, so I'm highly hoping for that. Replacing ratchet bomb and anguished would feel dope.

    Probably gonna just stick stony in instead of that zealous.

    Also I might write a full sideboard guide sometimes in the future if people care enough.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Funnily enough my win% vs graveyard decks has slighty increased, but graveyard decks are not that big part of my meta.

    Rip is better vs Griselshoal, KCI, Scales, Storm.
    Relic is better vs Phoenix Decks.
    Dredge seems to be about the same.

    However my sample size is small.

    Aggro is debatable, go wide decks like elves are slightly unfavored(the pure elf go wide deck), humans and burn are freebies(18-1-1 vs humans, 10-2 vs burn) and spirits and bogles seem to be about even if not slightly unfavored. Infect is another good matchup.

    Midrange is heavily in your favor, since lingering souls and reality smasher are so good vs midrange, because they trade 1 for 1. Abzan is slighty less free, but still quite easy.

    Combo is favored since discard plus powerful sideboard cards of white shut them down, you have the highest amount of discard from all the midrange decks.

    UW is hard to win vs competent players and unfavorable, Jeskai is easier to the point of 50/50.

    The big downsides are all variats of tron which are practically unwinnable,d blood moon decks which have some other oppresive element, like ensaring bridge and chalice or ponza with land destruction for basics and any kind of valakut deck. Tho lately with ratchet bomb, anguished and better sideboard I have been winning red prison matchups. I have also higehly increased my basic count with 4 fetches 5 basics including wastes and field of ruin.

    Dont forget you are also a midrange deck and sometimes you just draw the wrong half, especially preboard and have to rely on improving your deck post sideboard to win both games, which means your sideboarding has to be tip top. Something I still struggle with vs Scales.

    If you have any other question feel free to ask, but I genuinely believe it to be the best midrange deck currently, just underplayed heavily.


    Also looking for suggestion to replace Zealous Persecution with something purely for hardened scales. Any ideas?
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I was not having nearly the results now untill I cut the relics. They just don't do much in the majority of the matchups and they don't shut down decks like KCI and Hardened Scales, I just much prefer rip out of sideboard and much better mainboard. Also even without relics, you should run Smashers. Blight herder is just better vs control decks.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Dunno if anyone still follows this but my results keep being great. 4-0 3-1 3-0-1 and 3-1 in the last 4 weeks. Also I haven't changed my list in a month now. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bw-eldrazi-no-relics/ Shriekmaw has been geat to diversify my removal and ratchet bomb+anguished maindeck have given me some wins I otherwise wouldn't get vs ensnaring bridge decks. Still hopeful for vindicate like card which might push this deck even further. Also shambling vent instead of mutavault to free up field of ruins and a waste basic has been great.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    In the following 2 modern event I went 3-1 and 4-0. 3-1 being my mistake when I lost to Scales Affinity when I should have won. I changed the list a tiny bit and still have 1 sideboard open for tron/gy decks/combo decks, but such card might not exist, so I just might put another Rip or Needle in the sb. But yeah I don't miss relics at all.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I was kind of sick of how bad relics are vs Hardened Scales and decks like Bridgevine and Goryo decks.90% of my losses were to degenerate unfair decks. So I decided to drop relics and change the deck a little. This is current itteration of about 3 weeks of testing:


    Link to deck @ TappedOut.net

    Some ideas:
    Dropping 2 souls for 2 Bitterblossom so I can play sideboard Rest in Peace and destroy my gameplan less.
    More discard to combat degenerate decks.
    Displacers because without relics I have to cut down on stranglers and I still want 4 3 drop eldrazis(tried scourge and reshaper).

    To do: Probably some Liliana, the last home in Sb and test it. Tune some numbers so it's not just 2 ofs(Kitesails, Strangler, Thalias, Displacers). Work on my removal package. Deciding between 2 fields of ruin and a waste, 3 mutas or some mix of it(testing to be done).
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I'm not playing sorin because it's 4 mana and I'm already heavy enough. Also if I had to play a 4 drop I would probably just play Kalitas, that card can solo win games better than sorin. Mutavault is not that impactful but I'm never beating tron and with fatal push out I just prefer it over field of ruin. Mutavault threatens planeswalkers and battles crypting command, can also serve as Lilliana protection often, but thats not as impactful as we are already good vs BGx decks.

    Yes I vastly prefer Kitesail also.

    Had another 3-1 today.
    Beating Jund, Domain Zoo and BG rock. Losing a really close game to GDS(2-1).

    Changes:
    I'm really only afraid of unfair and go wide decks so I'm going down 2 relics for Nihil spellbombs just so I don't always have to keep mana up(would not recommend without testing). And going 1 fraying tendrils for 1 settle in the SB.

    Thalias were meh, but at least they are some kind of a hate card. Might honestly just make it a CB, a discard spell and a Kalitas and some point.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.

    TL;DR:Both Thalia and Displacer are quite mediocre since they do nothing to fight spells and die to bolt, but I'm just trying to find something that might help me.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    You really shouldn't lose to mardu. Just sideboard out all the colourless stuff. I'm 11-0 vs mardu. It's all the UW control and unfair decks that tilt me. I don't think I've lost to unfair deck in forever. Humans are also really easy. It's just meta is shifting into this degenerate vengevine, hollow one, combo ***** that even with 4 relics main is sometimes not enough.

    Also my displacers are already out and im testing Thalia, Heretic Cathar but im basically reaching for something that isn't there. The deck is mediocre.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Our Modern organizer posted some fun data. NOTE: I'm the only B/W eldrazi player.

    Success rate of our decks and top 20 decks and timeline.

    March 2018:
    Started playing modern again. Running Tidehollow scullers and outdated cards. Tuning starts.

    April 2018:
    Switching to 4 kitesails and tuning my sideboard more. Start running avacyn, elspeth and Ob in sideboard.

    May 2018:
    Finally switch to 2 kitesails and 2 collectives. Also expiriementing with bitterblossom and some sidebord cards, but the deck is tuned. Still my sideboard threat are weak and I still haven't switched to blightherders. At this point BW eldrazi is the 2nd most successful deck in the meta.

    June 2018:
    Start brewing mardu with K-command abbandoning kitesail. This turns out to be a mistake. Also switch to 4 rounds mondays hits me a bit as I had bad luck with matchups.

    July 2018:
    Pretty bad 1st 2 weeks still on mardu version. Go 1-3 and 2-2. Switch back to B/W and switch avacyn and planeswalkers to blight herders and bitterblossom in sideboard. Rebound to 9th spot.

    Now:
    Pretty obvious pure B/W is the best. My "2 drop slots" are now 2 kitesails a displacer and a sorin to offset life loss from bitterblossom after sideboard. This version feels the best. Even better than the may 2 kitesail, 2cb version and I feel that Herders are better than planeswalkers vs U/W because they can't counter the token making, which seems to be one of the harder but close matchups.





    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Not to be rude, but the deck souns bad. Dismember in a B/W deck that has cast down as an option. I just don't understand, cast down is the 2nd best removal after path. Also I would never play 23 lands, you'll just get screwed too much, always play that 24. Like I've said before not fan of tidehollow, because of mana constraints, it just doesn't work out, I try it out everyone now and then and quickly get reminded why.

    ON the ratcher bomb, I like it. If you have a gamestore where meta changes, bridgevine is really popular now and ratcher bomb would be great against it.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I really like the relics. I used to hate them, but now even in the matchups where they do nothing, there is a card thats usually worse. I do side em out vs infect, burn, elves and decks like that, but having relic to give you a better chance game 1 vs control,hollow one and goyf decks is really valuable, even if goyf decks are a good matchups. I used to play a lot of Gideon, but bitterblossom is 2 mana and goes under counterspells often. Anyway I'm gonna test one sorin in the maindeck next time. Still not sure what I'll be replacing. Maybe 1 displacer. Not only is it gonna make bitterblossom better but also Kitesails. Might also replace one mutavault for the vault of the archangel, so I have 2 lifelink sources.

    @renanymt I have celestial purge and Utter end exactly to deal with eldrazi tron and planeswalker. Thinking about replacing Celestial purge with maybe something more consistent. Maybe 2nd utter end or cast out, since the cycle prevents one of the cards being dead.
    Posted in: Midrange
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