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  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I'm not playing sorin because it's 4 mana and I'm already heavy enough. Also if I had to play a 4 drop I would probably just play Kalitas, that card can solo win games better than sorin. Mutavault is not that impactful but I'm never beating tron and with fatal push out I just prefer it over field of ruin. Mutavault threatens planeswalkers and battles crypting command, can also serve as Lilliana protection often, but thats not as impactful as we are already good vs BGx decks.

    Yes I vastly prefer Kitesail also.

    Had another 3-1 today.
    Beating Jund, Domain Zoo and BG rock. Losing a really close game to GDS(2-1).

    Changes:
    I'm really only afraid of unfair and go wide decks so I'm going down 2 relics for Nihil spellbombs just so I don't always have to keep mana up(would not recommend without testing). And going 1 fraying tendrils for 1 settle in the SB.

    Thalias were meh, but at least they are some kind of a hate card. Might honestly just make it a CB, a discard spell and a Kalitas and some point.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.

    TL;DR:Both Thalia and Displacer are quite mediocre since they do nothing to fight spells and die to bolt, but I'm just trying to find something that might help me.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Thalia combats some combo decks like storm when going for empty, griselshoal decks,through the breach and all low land decks. I'm looking for a piece of hate that I can fire and forget. Im 13-0-1 vs Humans so humans is something im not worried about. The only draw was my fault. It's the unfair decks like blood moon decks, red prison decks and combo decks that have been knocking me out and I'm just trying to fix that. And Thalia is a threat I can cast of basics and does impact the board combat wise.
    Yeah my list is always updated.
    I had some crushing results lately like losing to infect who mulled to 4 on the play for top 8 of a PPTQ I couldn't draw a 3rd land on a mull to 6 for 7 turns and couldn't cast any cards since I had temple and field of ruin.
    Losing out in another PPTQ to a red prison deck who landed leyline of sanctity game 2 and 3 with 2 of them in the sideboard. While I kept 2 thoughseizes and 2 inquisitions on the play.
    So my morale is a bit low.
    I'm also on 3 casts downs instead of 2 and 1 push, just testing it out.
    But yeah it's hard times for midrange decks.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    You really shouldn't lose to mardu. Just sideboard out all the colourless stuff. I'm 11-0 vs mardu. It's all the UW control and unfair decks that tilt me. I don't think I've lost to unfair deck in forever. Humans are also really easy. It's just meta is shifting into this degenerate vengevine, hollow one, combo ***** that even with 4 relics main is sometimes not enough.

    Also my displacers are already out and im testing Thalia, Heretic Cathar but im basically reaching for something that isn't there. The deck is mediocre.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Our Modern organizer posted some fun data. NOTE: I'm the only B/W eldrazi player.

    Success rate of our decks and top 20 decks and timeline.

    March 2018:
    Started playing modern again. Running Tidehollow scullers and outdated cards. Tuning starts.

    April 2018:
    Switching to 4 kitesails and tuning my sideboard more. Start running avacyn, elspeth and Ob in sideboard.

    May 2018:
    Finally switch to 2 kitesails and 2 collectives. Also expiriementing with bitterblossom and some sidebord cards, but the deck is tuned. Still my sideboard threat are weak and I still haven't switched to blightherders. At this point BW eldrazi is the 2nd most successful deck in the meta.

    June 2018:
    Start brewing mardu with K-command abbandoning kitesail. This turns out to be a mistake. Also switch to 4 rounds mondays hits me a bit as I had bad luck with matchups.

    July 2018:
    Pretty bad 1st 2 weeks still on mardu version. Go 1-3 and 2-2. Switch back to B/W and switch avacyn and planeswalkers to blight herders and bitterblossom in sideboard. Rebound to 9th spot.

    Now:
    Pretty obvious pure B/W is the best. My "2 drop slots" are now 2 kitesails a displacer and a sorin to offset life loss from bitterblossom after sideboard. This version feels the best. Even better than the may 2 kitesail, 2cb version and I feel that Herders are better than planeswalkers vs U/W because they can't counter the token making, which seems to be one of the harder but close matchups.





    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Not to be rude, but the deck souns bad. Dismember in a B/W deck that has cast down as an option. I just don't understand, cast down is the 2nd best removal after path. Also I would never play 23 lands, you'll just get screwed too much, always play that 24. Like I've said before not fan of tidehollow, because of mana constraints, it just doesn't work out, I try it out everyone now and then and quickly get reminded why.

    ON the ratcher bomb, I like it. If you have a gamestore where meta changes, bridgevine is really popular now and ratcher bomb would be great against it.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I really like the relics. I used to hate them, but now even in the matchups where they do nothing, there is a card thats usually worse. I do side em out vs infect, burn, elves and decks like that, but having relic to give you a better chance game 1 vs control,hollow one and goyf decks is really valuable, even if goyf decks are a good matchups. I used to play a lot of Gideon, but bitterblossom is 2 mana and goes under counterspells often. Anyway I'm gonna test one sorin in the maindeck next time. Still not sure what I'll be replacing. Maybe 1 displacer. Not only is it gonna make bitterblossom better but also Kitesails. Might also replace one mutavault for the vault of the archangel, so I have 2 lifelink sources.

    @renanymt I have celestial purge and Utter end exactly to deal with eldrazi tron and planeswalker. Thinking about replacing Celestial purge with maybe something more consistent. Maybe 2nd utter end or cast out, since the cycle prevents one of the cards being dead.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Yestrday we had 28 players 28 decks, majority midrange I build for control/midrange and hope to dodge the tron and adnausem.


    Link to deck @ TappedOut.net

    I took this with 2 different sideboard cards. Ended up running 2 herders in sideboard.


    Round 1 Uw control.
    Game 1 I have him on 5 with a land in hand and no collonade. Smasher in play. He goes JTMS into brainstorm into path. My next draw is a land and he runs me down with JTMS and card advantage.

    Game 2. I land turn 2 bitterblossom and that is usually game over for U/W. I end up casting 2 blightherds have a mutavault in play. Cryptic tap your attackers ok activate mutavault take 2. This happens 4 turns in the row, but it doesnt matter. He runs out of cards without even being able to stop my board and dies. Not close.

    Game 3. Repeat of game 2 but he cast 2 detention sphere and 2 terminus and 2 verdicts so my bitterblossom got me to 6. He is super dead and everyone is watching. I have souls in graveyard, 4 bitterblossom tokens and 2 souls tokens and 3 lands in hand. He has a collonade and 7 lands. He is on 1. Everyone is watching the game. 30+ cards and only 1 terminus left. Miracle terminus, get you with collonade puts me to 2. Bitterblossom to 1. I have 4 smashers and a collective brutality to draw. Nope. 1/30ish to hit the terminus or he lost. Oh well gg no re.

    0-1

    Round 2 vs tron. 1 out of 28 decks. Oh well.

    0-2

    Round 3 8 rack. Mutavault performs once more.
    Game 1 he lands a bridge and grinds me down, nothing I can do.

    Game 2 I mull to 6 but keeps 2 temples, swamp and a smasher and 2 random cards.
    I play nothing untill turn 3 when I land a smasher. 2 attacks he is to 10. But a bunch of discard and 3 racks gets me to 8. I'm still winning the race but he can land a removal and the game would be over. Nope I topdeck 2nd smasher and finish him.

    Game 3. I played only 3 lands and a Bitterblossom.
    Turn 2 bitterblossom into mutavault. He smallpoxes my 2nd land to activate the mutavault so I just play another land. I win with 4 cards in hand while he gets killed by fearie tokens and mutavault.

    1-2.

    Round 4 temur delver. Not even close.
    2-0.


    2-2.

    The tuning is complete. With Utter End now in my sideboard over anguished(3 life hurts) I'm happy. This was some really bad luck to 2-2. Bitterblossom and blightherder is amazing vs grindy matchups. Honestly, who cares about field of ruin I can't beat tron anyways, and in the grindy matchups mutavault is better even if they have manlands. I'm taking this to PPTQ in 2 weeks. Dissapointed with 2-2 but after 4 weeks of 3-1 or better, sometimes bad luck has to happen.





    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Reshaper is not good. Would never play 4 copies. Maybe replacing displacer if you are excpecting a lot of bolts. Also I wouldn't recommend not playing 4 ofs, specially not important card like reality smasher.



    Link to deck @ TappedOut.net

    Here is what I'll be taking to Modern Monday.
    Changes from previous week when I went 3-1.
    -2 Shambling
    -1 Wastes
    -2 Field of Ruin
    - Vault

    +4 Mutavaults
    +1 Concealed Courtyard
    +1 Plains.

    And - Brutallity
    + Cast down.


    Would rather have 4th marsh flats instead of concealed but I'll live, playing extra plain to be better vs blood moon since im losing field and wastes. Ill also sideboard TKS and Smasher out more agressivly vs bloodmoons maybe all 8 out.
    Moving CB to sideboard and replacing Ob nix with blight herder. As I said previously would way rather play Elspeth instead of blight herder and another CB instead of Blessed Alliance but I'll live as I sold those cards since I had foils.


    Will report.



    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    I would play mutavaults if I didn't already have all 8 colourless lands taken. I really like the basic waste and with it I have to run Field of ruin.Thought recently i've started siding out all TKSs and Smashers again blood moon decks so I might have to try mutavaults again.

    I've used to play Tidehollow, but the mana just doesn't work. Way too often you get stranded without second coloured source or need to play 2 coloured spells with a colourless land. So I switched to Kitesail but I really don't wanna play more than 2.

    Stoneforge would benefit us the most so I hope it ever gets ubanned. Untill then just small tweaking. Will try 4 mutavauls one day.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor


    Tried Displacer and liked it. Went 3-1 and lost only to Jund even tho Jund is a good matchup.
    Won vs U/r breach, 8 rack and Mardu pyro.

    Would like another Brutallity and Elspeth Sun's Champion in SB instead of Blessed Alliance and Blight Herder.

    But yeah there's not much more you can do to improve this deck. I've been tuning for forever playing nothing else, although my results have been good, everyone I know moved on to a different deck.

    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    The reason I think that deck is not that popular and powerful is because it lacks its own impactful 2 drop that is just raw power and not cutesy. Yeah tidehollow/kitesail are fine, but they can be too cutesy and can be crushing topdecks. I'm now on 2 kitesail freebooter and that is max I'll ever play. I've tried everything from bitterblossom, to matter reshapers to collective brutallity. Nothing does the trick. Gonna do some expirimenting with a 2/2 split of Kitesail, Displacer and if that doesn't work im just doomed to 2 kitesail 2 brutallity untill we get stoneforge.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BW Eldrazi Processor
    Don't bother with tron and valakut, if you get a win you get a win, wouldn't really worry about it. People won't take you seriously. Even tho I perform very good at my lgs averaging easily above 3-2 I still get told, oh you are that taxes guy, or oh you are the eldrazi tron guy and they will board ***** like stony and damping sphere vs you. I've been playing and refining this a lot and currently I am at point where you either go Kitesail build or no kitesail build. Sculler just doesn't work with the mana.

    Even in matchups where kitesail is ok, your sideboard should be better and you will often take kitesails out, even when they might hit stuff vs affinity for example.

    Sorry about posting tapped out links but these are my 2 version I usually run. Prefering the non kitesail one:

    Kitesail: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eldrazi-process-4/
    Non kitesail: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eldrazi-process-reshaper-version/?cb=1530120896

    If you run 2 damnations you got -1 plains +1 concealed.
    If you wanna run Settle and Wrath and Damnation package for example which is good vs humans keep 2 plains 2 concealed list.

    You need a lot of practice with the deck but if you put work in it will perform while people underestimate you all the time.

    Note: I've put plenty of effort into this and no longer play any other decks so purely refining this archetype. I have plenty of random top 8s of random tournaments and have been paying for all of them by paying 3 euro 3 times and from then on getting enough credits for all tourney fees and extra.


    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Death And Taxes
    I've played around with karn a lot, because I opened 2 at a GP Bologna side event, so I just got a freebie to test. My experience was -2 is bad +1 gives you lands -1 is often too slow. Would rather play something that just wins when unchecked, like Gideon.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
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