i’ve been testing a little this deck on my lgs and really liked swapping the caryatids for striped riverwinder. The reasons that i like is that it is easyer to put on the graveyard and it exchanges itself for another card.
The bad part about it is that i need to put a third color on the deck and the caryatid can be easely casted and helps fixing your manabase, blocking, making some things castable (the delve fuel creatures) and it is a way around blood moon.
With the thir color i added 3 thought scour (i test 3, since 4 is too mich in my opinion, as there is the chance of doscarding your own soulflayer) and 2 stubborn denial (helped me sometimes to protect my souflyer and counter hate cards such as rest in peace).
For this “third color” package i removed one cavern of souls (as i think the 2 stubborn denial can help me a little against control decks) and one wooded foothills in the lands part.
I removed the bomat courier set from the md as sometimes it is just a 1/1 beater and it is the first thing to get killed. (But i really like his “combo” with traverse)
As for traverse, the deck miss the artifact type now, but has more instant on it, having creature - land - sorcery - instant - enchantment (chromanticore).
Also, i have removed the lightning axe mb.
Well, that is the changes that i’m testing this last week and forward, and want to know what do you guys think about it!
I have forgot about it, you are right! I liked this option, gonna male some changes on my sb (maybe even a rec sage)
One thing for sure is when i cast grisly, i almost always get to see one of my sb cards, but at that stage i’m trying to force a soulflayer on the battlefield.
I liked your list, and i think that it is how i’m gonna try next time.
About caryatid: i really like this card for some reasons. It helps with our manabase (against ld and blood moon, since i’m using only 4 shocks and 3 basics) and the hexproof clause is the thing sometimes i search for during a game because of removals like path to exile and dismember.
About the leylines, i totally agree with you, but i can’t find brutality here! Gonna see if someone have a couple to borrow.
Chatartic reunion: i’m gonna try two like you (replacing the unburial rites). There were a lot of hands that i draw that i didn’t have ways to put the fatties on the grave.
I liked your “toolboxy” style in the sb. But at game 2 isn’t a little hard to get traberse with delirium against grave hate? I’ve been thinking about some nature’s claim for the “precaution slot that always come game 2” against various grave hate.
I’ve played dredge for quite sometime in the past, and game 2 i ALWAYS board in grave hate in some form, as how common grave hate is (relic of progenitus is just a matter of sequencing to beat, but leyline of the void is the worst. What helps about it is that sometimes people keep horrible hands just because of it. Scavenging ooze may be kinda slow, but it is legbreaking if it sticks long enough).
First time playing with the deck irl, so, a lot of fun and mistakes but just a quick notes:
-i used yousemax latest list but with cavern of souls on the sb, a godless shrine main and 2 unburial rites in the main to test (i have seen this list and decided to make a split http://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/k/kD49866S/)
-i think i mulliganed every game but one. This one game that i didnt mull i kept a rather greedy one land hand with two faithless looting, never finding the second one. This was against burn. (The hand had the turn two flyer maxed out)
-this decks mulligans well, as a 5 cards hand can be pretty brutal (turn two maxed out demon)
-lifelink was a savyor most of the games i played, specially agains burn (who would know) and elves
-i’m gonna try one stomping ground mb instead of godless shrine
-dind’t like the unburial rites plan. It seems cool and everything but every game they were the first picks to put on sb. Maybe i am not playing correctly with them or can’t see them on the big picture.
-deffinitely need to grab some collective brutality.
-i’m gonna play this deck on a pptq, thinking about some leyline of sanctity on sb to get some points agaisnt burn, storm and lilianas decks
Well, thats my two cents on the deck!
Ps: gonna test again next week with ghor clan on the board, right now speed is all a modern deck needs here where i’m playing.
I’ve been playing a little with two Nimble Obstructionist sb and i have to admit that i’m really enjoying it right now. It is kinda of a catch all answer, helping against combo matchups (countering the storm trigger, the lightning storm abbility etc) and even against others normal matchups. (The best for me was countering an expedition map activation against mono g tron.
Speaking of which, how do you guys approach the mono g tron matchup? It has been horrible for me lately, as they can be too fast and their etb creatures really ruin my day (that was the first reason i run nimble obstructionist tbh)
Tbh i don’t have a grafdiggers cage neither a second copy of s extraction! But if i had i would deffinitely play it on the sb.
Grafdiggers on the other hand i’m not very sure if i would, since i’m playing 2 copies of snapcaster md and it is some kind of nonbo (and i can’t imagine a match where i would side out snap)
Echoing truth comes in mind against hollow one brutal early turns, you know, 2 hollow bois turn one or two, and some kind of catch all answer. I used to play merfolk, so the mentality about the card is the same!
I'm gonna be attending a rather large tournament this weekend and have decided to run with Mono U Tron. (my other options was BG Elves, Storm, Hollow One, Merfolk, Burn, Temur Control and a few others decks that my friends have; but i decided to stick with utron as I´m more confident with it)
If the spoils of oath is true, what do you guys think about the new land that copies one creature?
Tutor this land and one waste in the trigger abbility of titan when he attacks, allowing to make one more titan that tutors up sunhome and another land.
I really liked this card, and as soon as i grab some i’m gonna test one md and at least 2 sb
The bad part about it is that i need to put a third color on the deck and the caryatid can be easely casted and helps fixing your manabase, blocking, making some things castable (the delve fuel creatures) and it is a way around blood moon.
With the thir color i added 3 thought scour (i test 3, since 4 is too mich in my opinion, as there is the chance of doscarding your own soulflayer) and 2 stubborn denial (helped me sometimes to protect my souflyer and counter hate cards such as rest in peace).
For this “third color” package i removed one cavern of souls (as i think the 2 stubborn denial can help me a little against control decks) and one wooded foothills in the lands part.
I removed the bomat courier set from the md as sometimes it is just a 1/1 beater and it is the first thing to get killed. (But i really like his “combo” with traverse)
As for traverse, the deck miss the artifact type now, but has more instant on it, having creature - land - sorcery - instant - enchantment (chromanticore).
Also, i have removed the lightning axe mb.
Well, that is the changes that i’m testing this last week and forward, and want to know what do you guys think about it!
One thing for sure is when i cast grisly, i almost always get to see one of my sb cards, but at that stage i’m trying to force a soulflayer on the battlefield.
I liked your list, and i think that it is how i’m gonna try next time.
About caryatid: i really like this card for some reasons. It helps with our manabase (against ld and blood moon, since i’m using only 4 shocks and 3 basics) and the hexproof clause is the thing sometimes i search for during a game because of removals like path to exile and dismember.
About the leylines, i totally agree with you, but i can’t find brutality here! Gonna see if someone have a couple to borrow.
Chatartic reunion: i’m gonna try two like you (replacing the unburial rites). There were a lot of hands that i draw that i didn’t have ways to put the fatties on the grave.
I liked your “toolboxy” style in the sb. But at game 2 isn’t a little hard to get traberse with delirium against grave hate? I’ve been thinking about some nature’s claim for the “precaution slot that always come game 2” against various grave hate.
I’ve played dredge for quite sometime in the past, and game 2 i ALWAYS board in grave hate in some form, as how common grave hate is (relic of progenitus is just a matter of sequencing to beat, but leyline of the void is the worst. What helps about it is that sometimes people keep horrible hands just because of it. Scavenging ooze may be kinda slow, but it is legbreaking if it sticks long enough).
First time playing with the deck irl, so, a lot of fun and mistakes but just a quick notes:
-i used yousemax latest list but with cavern of souls on the sb, a godless shrine main and 2 unburial rites in the main to test (i have seen this list and decided to make a split http://www.hareruyamtg.com/en/k/kD49866S/)
-i played against:
Storm 2x1
Ponza 2x1
Burn 1x2
Elves 2x0
-i think i mulliganed every game but one. This one game that i didnt mull i kept a rather greedy one land hand with two faithless looting, never finding the second one. This was against burn. (The hand had the turn two flyer maxed out)
-this decks mulligans well, as a 5 cards hand can be pretty brutal (turn two maxed out demon)
-lifelink was a savyor most of the games i played, specially agains burn (who would know) and elves
-i’m gonna try one stomping ground mb instead of godless shrine
-dind’t like the unburial rites plan. It seems cool and everything but every game they were the first picks to put on sb. Maybe i am not playing correctly with them or can’t see them on the big picture.
-deffinitely need to grab some collective brutality.
-i’m gonna play this deck on a pptq, thinking about some leyline of sanctity on sb to get some points agaisnt burn, storm and lilianas decks
Well, thats my two cents on the deck!
Ps: gonna test again next week with ghor clan on the board, right now speed is all a modern deck needs here where i’m playing.
I am thinking about test it as a split with bomat courier (2-2 or 3 bomat-1 architects)
Speaking of which, how do you guys approach the mono g tron matchup? It has been horrible for me lately, as they can be too fast and their etb creatures really ruin my day (that was the first reason i run nimble obstructionist tbh)
Squelch is one mana less to cast, but obstructionist is harder to “counter” and can be a body to clock or block.
Grafdiggers on the other hand i’m not very sure if i would, since i’m playing 2 copies of snapcaster md and it is some kind of nonbo (and i can’t imagine a match where i would side out snap)
Echoing truth comes in mind against hollow one brutal early turns, you know, 2 hollow bois turn one or two, and some kind of catch all answer. I used to play merfolk, so the mentality about the card is the same!
I'm gonna be attending a rather large tournament this weekend and have decided to run with Mono U Tron. (my other options was BG Elves, Storm, Hollow One, Merfolk, Burn, Temur Control and a few others decks that my friends have; but i decided to stick with utron as I´m more confident with it)
So, here is the list that i´m pretending to use:
Maindeck
Sideboard
Note: i´m not using Crucible of Worlds because i didn´t manage to get it yet, but if i can, i´m gonna use it on sb.
Any opinion about the 75?
Surgica extraction i’m currently using only one (need to get one more)
Gonna try grafdiggers tomorrow, as i also am using trinket mage MB
Just a quick question, how do you guys handle the hollow one match? I’ve been struggling against it lately, usually when there is a turn one inquiry.
I’m thinking about dropping some relics sb, but i’m not very sure.
How do you approach this match?
And in what situations do you need the pact? Because of as foretold you can stay “tapped out” on your turn?
What do i do to enter on the discord thread?
Tutor this land and one waste in the trigger abbility of titan when he attacks, allowing to make one more titan that tutors up sunhome and another land.
Ps: sorry for my english