Quote from Purplemurasaki »You're only about 29% to get 3 or more in opener + first 4 draws, if you do they're vanilla 1R 4/4s with downside on t4. But a single removal spell makes them 3/3s, which is pretty fair. It's kinda hard to evaluate how they should be played, but I don't think they're unbeatable a relevant amount of the time (7.5% to draw 4 with first 4 draws, then needing 4 lands and removal on top of that to nut draw, while still being pretty soft to removal). I'm at the very least interested in how people play them, as playing multiples later in the game seems just as viable as running them in aggro.
Quote from Purplemurasaki »
Seven Dwarves - I do a pick 1 get 4 thing with Squadron Hawks. Not sure how well that would work here
Quote from Leelue »Is goblin trenches doing well for people still?
Quote from MagicFever »Thanks for all the input. The idea of adding 4 copies of a specific land is appealing. However, this does not entirely solve the problem of the etb untapped at turn one. I guess we hope that WotC will reprint painlands at UC.
Quote from _i0 »
4/4 first strike that does actual nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize, you mean?
Quote from MarthMarthMarth »
Seems mostly worse than pianna, nomad captain, if you want the anthem effect. I think the scaleguard tapping ability occupies an entirely different niche.
Quote from BrownDog5117 »
In all seriousness, I've never felt that fixing was THAT important outside of the 5-color value deck. I won our last cube with a U/B control deck running 9 swamps and 8 islands. If you muddle the cube with all this serious fixing, I think all you are really doing is enabling a 5-color valuetown deck. (which is a deck that I enjoy, but don't want to have come together ideally all the time).
Quote from PyreDream »
It's weird that I don't see Nekrataal in almost any lists here. I'm curious about what peasant 187 cards are ahead of this guy that he can't crack a 450 list anymore. I'm also just imagining Hordeling Outburst paired with Skullclamp