PS: Are you guys really comparing the Urza power suits with the Tardis, that says POLICE BOX at the top??? Are you even pretending to be arguing in good faith?
I didn't bring up Urza power suits to compare with the Tardis, but to show as an example that science fiction elements have been in MtG for a while now. I don't blame people for not liking Universes Beyond, but I will call out "science fiction doesn't belong in MtG" as being not great reasoning considering how much science fiction has already been in the game
And lol, "it's not a good look on anyone" to say a game that has only featured fantasy settings for 30 years puts modern and scifi stuff in? I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that. Not a good look? lol come one man.
MtG has HAD scifi stuff in it for a while now. Invasion's Power Armors literally shoot lasers in some of the artwork, like the OG art of Void
Really? I find neo braids to be trash. Punisher cards never work how you want. Original braids was a must sacrifice and not a pittance punishment.
In this case, you can force the draw/lose life as long as you sacrifice permanents your opponents don't have, which is honestly how I see her being used.
This one is an auto include in any deck that can run it, and is too good, while also not being fun to play against.
Example of someone entrenched in their own playgroup. Not everyone plays decks with a lot of search effects. And as someone else said, it's really only going to snipe one effect, not like anyone is going to play more search effects while this is out.
On the one hand, elves and goblins all the time would be (and was) boring. It's important to mix things up a bit. Cat dinosaurs do make sense in the context of this plane, but in general just stapling together two types of creatures isn't going to resonate as much as a more organically conceived creature type. There's a difference between coming up with a type of creature that has, say, feline and dinosaur traits and calling it "X," versus just typing it as cat and dinosaur. The latter just speaks to mutated fusions, which is what Ikoria is and was always going to be (and might not be everyone's cup of tea on that basis). But when the typing is "X," the combination becomes a thing in itself, and the focus is now on "X" and not X's components. All creations are just a synthesis of components which we've seen before, which differ only in their composition. But a creation is more complete and novel as its own thing when it clicks mentally as "X" and not merely "cat + dinosaur," that is, when its identity is more than the sum of its parts. Overall, settings will resonate more when creatures are typed as new things than mashing together old types. But sometimes, as in Ikoria, the mashing together is thematically appropriate.
As I replied to the other person, mechanically, using preexisting creature types and mashing them together, can be more interesting than just adding a new one. The addition of naga as a creature type was not worth it when they could have just been made snakes and been more mechanically relevant with more cards.
That isn’t to say new creature types shouldn’t be made, I just think they need to be significantly different from anything else to really be worth it.
depends on how u view it, sure wizards didnt invent elves or goblins, but they were originally constructed out of imagination, a creative process. and being able to fill them with life and lore again and again is the real challenge and it seems wizards cant do this anymore.
what i think wizards does nowadays is. spin wheels with creature types and mix whatever comes up (like goat, hydra). that doesnt take creativity (ok creating the method does, but the rest is an easy running engine). they could come up with the new species like they did with the azra in battlebond. that would be more destinctiv than cat-dinosaurs.
i also think that the distinctiveness or elves being green, goblins being red gave the game more character than this, "now every color can be everything and have everything".
So how do you feel about naga then? Many people feel they should have just made them snakes. Where do you draw the line in making up new creature type names and stapling some together so they better fit tribal synergies of existing cards?
after i saw this card and this artwork i thought "what happened to magic?"
i am usually not that kind of guy, being all nostalgic, but to me making a cat dinosaur feels so lazy and uncreative, as if wizards isnt even trying anymore.
just randomly smash creature types together and all the old lore with goblins, elves and angels doesnt matter anymore. no, nowadays we get angel,horror,eldrazi,warlock, single mom creature types.
its not that i cry about "in the past everything was better", it is just that i feel this is lazy work. cant really discripe it, but this is making me lose interest in magic. in the past cards were designed clear and distinctive. (at least to me). now they print out every trash they can imagine and want us to be hyped and pay over the top prices for colored paper. i feel more like "this aitn worth it anymore", which is sad, cause i actually really like the game.
... what one trash card can "trigger"
I would argue it takes more creativity to make up something like cat dinosaurs than using tired old fantasy tropes such as goblins, elves and angels.
WotC promoted that kind of "style" since Battlebonds all for "representation" check mark stickers, and putting that kind of references in a fantasy game hurts the immersion by putting too much current time references into the game (its a trigger).
Isn’t that just boxing in what fantasy is allowed to be? Fantasy is a very broad genre by design.
https://twitter.com/omgscarypet/status/1376180852070174725
https://www.deviantart.com/scarypet/art/Nicol-Bolas-616965864
Interesting to see what develops from this.
That isn’t to say new creature types shouldn’t be made, I just think they need to be significantly different from anything else to really be worth it.