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  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Caranthir »
    Whereas - as a former veteran moderator myself - I can see you are just trying to do your job, exactly what kind of illegal activity is when a store, by accident, sells a novel before it shall be available?

    How different it is from people opening and leaking cards they opened a week and a half before they are allowed to?

    It's not like the guy stole it from the printing facility.


    To shed some light on the issue from a UK standpoint: Certain products can place stores into an NDA style contract on distribution for selected works that would give out spoiler-like details for a product or brand. This is normally used for media franchises releasing movies, books, comics, etc that conclude their main storylines, and may extend to ancillary products such as toys, posters, clothing. etc etc.

    These contracts place the stores themselves (or parent/holding companies) into a position of fault if they should be found as the source of any leaks they could not reasonably prevent. Selling a piece of time-sensitive merchandise in defiance of contract terms would be a breach of contract as it could be reasonably prevented, and if identified the company at fault could be open to a huge law suit - that they'd likely lose - with costs equal to whatever damage a judge decides has been done to the retail expectations of WOTC.

    The way this would effect MTGS is that they would be considered as a conspirator at worse and in violation of copyright law at best if they allow discussion to take place on elements based on that particular story leak. Because of the nature of the incident, MTGS main holders would be liable for a lawsuit against them - which they'd likely lose - if they are unable to show they've taken every reasonable measure to prevent further spreading of the information. And because there is no way to verify that a persons comments are not based on the leaks, anything making specific comments has to be treated as if it is, and thus removed. Once the book is on public sale, MTGS would be under no obligation to limit the spread of information contained within.

    Lastly, and correct me if this has been confirmed either way, but has anyone found out wether this is a genuine purchase or a store employee who's manufactured a receipt from the till? I don't mean to be rude or accusatory, but my Danganronpa sense of logic is buzzing, so being objective here I feel compelled to ask and find out either way.

    I hope I've helped with peoples understandings of the legal mechanics, and if not... well, You're Welcome xD!!
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Aminkhet Gods returned?
    God-Eternal eh?

    Ha, hahaha. Nicol Bolas now has his own Black Order. What a guy.

    That's also a pretty good use of resources, especially on a psychological level. And could lead to some pretty sweet Kaiju fights.

    Outside of that, it's also highly amusing to me because I love Ravnica, and having it torn to pieces like this is such a great chance to rework it without some of it's problems: that, and literal gods stomping the paruns present delights me <3
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Gleaming Overseer
    For purposes of validity, is it possible for you to provide a link to the original source? =)
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Rainbow druid and ravange of the fallen
    I love everything about the flavour of these cards. I love the design of these cards. I don't appreciate the counterfiet nature of these cards.

    But if they are real in the end, or even close to designs we may see, I'd still be pleased, as this is WOTC's Endgame, with similar results, and really needs to not drop the ball at the final hour.
    Posted in: Rumor Mill Archive
  • posted a message on Modern Horizons Spec/Predictions/hopes
    Quote from lucasbpc »
    Quote from jundimastah »
    So basically a sword cycle that are pro ally colors right?
    Would be fun to have a Sword of Law and Order (UW), Sword of Death and Destruction(BR), the others seem less obvious.


    Sword of Might and Power, Sword of Wisdom and Greed, Sword of Harmony and Unity. Off the top of my head.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on War of The Spark Trailer
    Flipwalkers, and things that can activate into planeswalkers have the wrong flavor: people aren't becoming planeswalkers, they're having their sparks taken.


    Not entirely, people have just been thinking about it backwards. Think more like this or that. Cards with two effects that when depleted of loyalty counters, are then flipped into Legendary Creatures.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Need a nudge in the right direction..
    Sorry I've taken so long to respond. The great Account Snap of 2019 struck hard, and life's been difficult. I'll take a look and do a couple of drafts, and let you know what I think in the afternoon.

    It's a shame mill didn't stick around, but it was a good thing to test, try and learn as I feel it was a great experience in designing an archetype, balancing it and it's environment and overall was a really positive, hands-on learning experience. I'm excited to see what your cube has become since our last meeting, and how it's morphed and evolved =)
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Also I don't know why the post kept uploading during draft and screwing up the formatting. It's marked as spam for whatever reason. May need mod help since the great MTGS Finger Snap of 2019 has caused mayhem OMG
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Quote from 5colors »
    That works better and again Jace still isn't the main character like you claim. Since RtR/Origins he's shared with the other gatewatch members, not really "Iron Man" movies but "Avengers" movies. Which has been the issue creative is trying to fix now, they have been making more Avengers movies and not enough "solo" films.


    Yeah, however one thing that you seem to have forgotten...

    Alike the MCU storyline people aren't following this storyline in a vacuum. Peoples complaint isn't so much the frequency of seeing Jace, it's the frequency of his necessity to the overall, long term plotline.

    Jace was one the first five walkers to appear in Lorwyn. At that time, they heavily promoted Jace to an audience that didn't particularly like him, and was more interested in the other four walkers. After that, we had Alara which introduced new thematic walkers (and the return of Bolas). However, that still shoehorned in Jace using a connection to Tezzeret and Bolas. Then Zendikar, which... shoehorned in Jace to the detriment of the story (as I view it).

    Then we jumped over to Mirrodin, which brought us reprieve in that we had no Jace, the return and adaption of a favoured enemy and a favoured setting, and a lot of people hated it. The reason? Venser's entire storyline at the time was criticised for being 'too much like Jace'. That may have been forgetten in time as people retrospectively interpret his character, but it was a criticism that was made.

    Then we got Innistrad, which was a reprieve from Jace. Momentarily...

    Because then we returned to Ravnica, and low and behold, Jace was front and center. What irked so many is that he then became a living MacGuffin. He also (as some view it) stole the literal identity of Ravnica into his own character as a shallow attempt to make people like him. It backfired. More people ended up hating him for being a living macguffin that damaged the identity of their favourite plane.

    Theros then gave us a reprieve from Jace, but not from Gideon who was a very polarising character at the time, with some for and some against. Notably most of those against disliked his (then) similarities to Jace in the way his story was handled, which early on telegraphed that the Gatewatch would become a thing.

    Then Tarkir happened. Most people forgot the story of this because it handled time travel badly, did major retcon work to Bolas and Ugin (that angered just about everyone), and it's main protagonist was criticised as a lazy pastiche of elements of Jace and Gideon (who were both still disliked by the general audience). It also introduced the wedge plane everyone wanted... to immediately destroy that identity thanks to the Jace pastiche.

    During that time however we had side stories happening that was supposed to follow Ral. Unfortunately this quickly devolved into Jace + Jace, as he got shoehorned in there (with Gideon) in the worst plot setup for a set I've seen in a while, which wheeled into Eldrazikar. This is when the pattern really begins to set in: another fan favourite plane (not mine, I hate it), that involved Jace (or a pastiche of him), and involved a fan favourite setting being irrevocably destroyed or it's identity forever changing. This only fanned animosity for Jace, especially with the perceived ease he defeated the Eldrazi. Oh wait, what happens next...

    We go back to another fan favourite plane (also not mine, I hate it) and low and behold, Jace is there. Now previously, it's been one block on (Jace) and one block off (pastiche), but now they're just forcing him down the audience's throats. And low and behold, the core of the story is the plane's identity being irrevocably changed and Jace having a hand in it and/or being the one to solve the problem. Nevermind that you had Tamiyo there, the fact she was an afterthought as compared to Jace's necromantic booty obsession and the criminally overlooked Nahiri/Sorin story, in the end it all came down to 'Jace Kaioken x10'.

    From there we went to Kaladesh, and while supposed to be an artifact set involving rebellion, drama, social politics and everyone's (modern) favourite artifact baddie Tezzeret, even with a big Ajani plot point, most people criticised it for Jace. Because despite the fact he could of had no screentime, they had to shoehorn him in anyway. Oh and look, the pattern continues of plane everyone enjoys... with it's identity completely destroyed. Hmmm.

    Then we go to Amonkhet, another plane everyone loves the world of (despite it being a fascist military meritocracy). Now this one we 'knew' was going to be destroyed, so any audience member surprised here when it's completely torn asunder is just naive. In fact, it's main approval was watching the Gatewatch get bodied by Bolas, because people were generally sick of the Gatewatch at this point (yet notably only when it involved Jace). Gideon got substantial character development in this set that truly distinguished him from Jace and gained his own audience.

    From there we got Ixalan, which makes four Jace sets, yayyy. It also brought people pirates, so if you're a fan of those, great! If you're not? Sucks to be you! Sadly those pirates got Jace'd, which ruined the pirates for a considerable portion of their fans. We also got the return of Azor, a huge piece of fan service... that Jace exiled into plot irrelevance reminding everyone of how Jace disregards the general plot (being the GuffinPact). Notably Ixalan's biggest criticism is Jace and his superficial character-centric plot, while it's most applauded notion are the Pirates, Dinosaurs and White Vampires.

    From there we went to Dominaria, return to a plane people adore and with no Jace. And people went wild. They loved seeing the return of characters that were similar but distinct to the Gatewatch members. It capitalised on Gideon's improved character, continued Lilith's story, and didn't involve Jace... until it did, in the most criticised part of Dominaria, which is the Jace cameo. Which also added precisely nothing to the story as it was redundant in respect of the future Project Lightning Bug. Fortunately as Jace didn't stick around, Dominaria didn't have it's audience identity completely destroyed.

    Oh, nevermind, they rammed out a Spellbook thing based on Jace. Which received criticism because it could of been any other PW, but no, they had to ram Jace in, because you can't be allowed to forget that Jace is plot-armor superion of audience upset.

    Then we're back to Ravnica, and thank goth that there has been no Jace. We got to focus on the Guilds, and how things have changed precisely because Jace isn't in the one place he should be, and it's causing the systematic destruction of another fan favourite plane...

    And then we will have War of the Spark, where it's heavily suspected that instead of Ajani, who was originally set up to combat Bolas, we're going to quick swerve to Jace being the hero. But not after the entire identity and culture that the audience loves about Ravnica is completely destroyed. In a set that should be about a planeswalker war, instead it's increasingly likely to be all about a war over Jace's guildpact infused spark. So he can go on to be Guildpact of the Multiverse, because we needed an Adam Warlock Above All in MTG, that can be used to simply reset problems in the multiverse so nobody has to write convincing endings. And sure, it has parallels to Azor's naive rigidity and Liliana's selfish pursuit of her own goals despite the consequences, but it's also shallow.

    And yes, while there is going to be a new weatherlight, because Magic repeats it's story beats over and over with different gloss in the hope you don't notice, it's not unpredictable and isn't particularly fun for the audience, especially when a pattern has existed of destroying the fan favourite planes for a cheap emotional reaction now in trade for long term audience respect, investment and story potential.

    Case in point: Marvel made the same mistakes and had to run a series called Time Runs Out, and then Secret Wars 2015, so they could restore all their fan favourites (or adaptions of them) after angering many of their audience members. Similarly they did this with House of M as well in regards to their various mutant-X teams.





    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Chalsis »
    Can WAR possibly be big enough to wrap all this up? There seems like way too much story for one set to tackle alone.

    Here's what the next expansion needs to cover:

    1.) The Eternal invasion.
    2.) The Gatewatch arriving.
    3.) The results of Bolas' Guild manipulations (they actual payoff from five guilds falling)
    4.) Vraska getting her memories back.
    5.) Bolas' Immortal Sun shenanigans.
    6.) The final fates of the Gatewatch, which also probably includes Liliana's Chain Veil/Raven Man arc.
    7.) Ugin doing something Very Important.
    8.) The reveal of what Bolas is really after.
    9.) The final confrontation with Bolas.
    10.) Something involving the Blackblade.

    There's enough story here for at least 2 sets. To be honest, I expected Bolas' invasion to begin in RNA.


    And that's less than the typical plot points done in just one chapter of most Manga...

    Most of that is one or two scenes worth of resolution each, most of which is the Chekov's Gun type, and even more of it can be resolved collectively. They've done most of the work in the first two steps, and to be fair, most of the setting work depicting the majority of it is likely to be illustrated via cards in their flavour and mechanics.

    The only parts that would likely take emphasis storywise considering the above are 1, 3, 8 and 9. The rest is essentially window dressing for the 'Bolas Invasion, Ravnica in Ruins, Bolas Defeated/Triumphant' plot points.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on For "My Account Was Just Deleted" Users
    I would like to have my account restored, if possible.
    Username: LeyShade

    I didn't get any pop ups on website. Didn't think to check my email. Sorry for inconvenience =(
    Posted in: Community Discussion
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