Magic Market Index for Aug 10th, 2018
 
Treasure Cruisin' Modern Big Red
 
Magic Market Index for Aug 3rd, 2018
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    I would say that the most annoying card in Humans is Meddling Mage, but that card in no way deserves a ban. In fact, no card in that deck deserves a ban at all, not on power level, or consistency. The deck doesn't even deserve a ban at all. IMHO, the fact that it performs so well is that its natural predator, the removal heavy mid-range decks, is in a slump due to rampant big mana, combo and control decks forming the rest of the meta.

    Getting rid of Ancient Stirrings would do wonders to balance the meta closer to what WotC wants it to be.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 02/07/2018)
    We're talking about the most experienced players around, and there are two kinds of players that stick around for years and years. Those that find pleasure in competition and winning: they are the ones that play the most powerful linear decks, either aggro, combo or Tron, and trying to break the game. They are always looking for the most powerful, newest decks.

    And then there are the players who find pleasure in outplaying their opponents: they are the ones who enjoy grindy games, interactive games, or decks so complicated that it may take 10-15 minutes to combo off. They are the players who always play Control, and who pushed decks like KCI and Storm... before they became mainstream.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from KTROJAN »
    This bridgevine deck $$$$ I’m shocked cliffs haven’t spiked with bridges/vines


    Blackcleave Cliffs already more than doubled in price this year due to Jund, Mardu Pyromancer and Hollow One after Pro Tour Rivals of Ixalan (Modern) and the BBE unban. Frankly, I think the players interested in Bridgevine were probably those that were invested in one of those decks, and they would already have their Cliffs. (Oh, and for those interested in Mardu Pyromancer and who don't want to buy Cliffs at this price, Dragonskull Summit makes a good, very cheap replacement.)

    They are buying the cards they didn't have: Bridge from Below and Vengevine. Hangarback Walker is also creeping up, though there exists a budget replacement for it or Walking Ballista: Endless One.

    Leyline of the Void and Surgical Extraction are probably going up in the next few months, as they are the only turn 0/turn 1 graveyard hate cards we have access to in Modern.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Quote from SirQuincelot »
    What about monastery mentor? Maybe as a one of.


    I wouldn't recommend it, since we can't protect it well and we can't cantrip it to obscene amounts of tokens and prowess (unlike Jeskai Thing Ascension, which does run a couple, but is a tier 3 deck at best). I would recommend Goblin Rabblemasters in the side for games against control, combo, rest in peace or fast Blood Moon decks, where a fast growing, must-answer Red threat is useful... and where you probably play off of your topdeck after several turns.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on [Primer] U/R Delver
    Also don't forget this: when Delver of Secrets flips, it no longer is a wizard. The Wizards deck plays more creatures because of this, and often will have difficulties flipping Delver (Hoogland notably runs Opt instead of Serum Visions and his deck has no scry/library manipulation effects).
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Modern URx Wizards (Wizard Tribal)
    Hey everyone. I've been looking for a deck to change my Jeskai tempo deck into. I'm a mid-range/tempo player at heart, and the recent heavy control lists simply don't do it for me. I've been looking at Jeskai Thing Ascension, but Hoogland's results at SCG Indy are making me consider going the down the Wizard's way instead... I'll be reading up on this thread and hope to contribute eventually.

    Edit: Oh, by the way, Jeff Hoogland posted a primer on his deck here: https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/jeffhoogland-08012018-u-r-tempo-primer/
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    It's definitely a budget consideration ($50 vs $3.50, and so is Extirpate in the sideboard over Surgical Extraction), but it seems to have worked for him. In what is basically a 2 color deck, Dragonskull Summit should come untapped any turn past the first: every other mana-producing land in the deck fills its "Swamp or Mountain" obligation.

    It will lead to more mulligans however (a hand with 1-2 Blackcleave Cliffs and a Faithless Looting is an easy keep, a land with 2 Dragonskull Summit is not), since you want to play something on turn 1 most of the time.

    If you don't have the Cliffs, you can run Summits, but Cliffs is better. And don't try to replace the fetch or shocks with Summits: Blackcleave Cliffs and Dragonskull Summit don't play well with each other.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Quote from paulotheodoro »
    I Dont like of Plains in MB, Perhaps she in oppening hand makes weird.


    With the amount of Blood Moon decks and WU decks with 4x Field of Ruins and 4x Path to Exile in my local meta (which tends to favor heavily control/combo/prison decks), I prefer running a 5x Basic land in place of the second Sacred Foundry. It could be a 3x Swamp, but I decided to cut Lili altogether, and Inow have no BB spell in my 75.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Quote from FlyingDelver »
    @SpinifexV How many BMs do you run?


    Link is in my signature. I run 2 Blood Moon, 0 Manamorphose. Here is my current list. I wish I had 2x Engineered Explosives, but I don't and I'm waiting for a reprint.

    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    I would think that's a good split as well, especially after having played against Skred Red Dragons and UW Control x2 last night: having one more hard removal spell would help. However, I am wondering what to cut for the second Dreadbore: my 2 flex spots are filled by Hazoret and Liliana, the Last Hope... I guess Lili would bit the dust, as she is the only BB spell in my 75.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Leaked Announcement - New Masterpieces and Reserved List Update
    Definitely fake. They will not touch the Reserve List, and if they did, they would print a very long article to try to prevent the many legal issues that would cause.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    She only sees play in standard, and she is not in a popular color combination the moment (why go GB when you can run Scarab God in UB?). You have to consider that the power level of standard increases during the year, as more and more sets are added after a rotation (we go from 5 to a maximum of 8). She was popular when there were only 5 sets in standard (Ixalan Standard), when the power level was low and much kinder to a 6CMC planeswalker.

    As for her usage, you only see 1 or 2 copies in a deck, mainly in sideboards, and she will never be playable in Modern. If Golgari is busted in the next sets, she might come back up a bit, but she won't be a $15+ card again.

    Since Golgari is in Guilds of Ravnica, which is the next set, it would be a safe bet to get a copy now if you intend to play her, but don't try to invest in her, IMHO.

    Edit: too many "also", have reworked the sentences.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Skred Red
    Control in Modern is generally 3 colors** and depends on Cryptic Command and manlands to win, making it soft to Blood Moon. They also generally do not pack removal for Planeswalkers, and don't have enough creatures able to beat those, so the ultimate of Sarkhan and the incremental damage of Chandra, Thunderbreak Regent and Draconic Roar are the way for this version to win.

    The dragons are also resilient to immune to the three 1-mana removal spells (Fatal Push, Lightning Bolt and Path to Exile) and, in a long game, Sarkhan will be able to dig for the cards you need.

    **Not applicable to UW Control, but that deck is weaker to creature decks that are popular in Modern at the moment, unlike Jeskai and Grixis Control.

    As for Combo decks... Yeah, this deck appears weak to Storm (though its non-damaging manabase makes it longer for them to combo off), but 4x Blood Moon is good against Valakut, and 4x Anger of the Goods is good against Hollow One and great against dredge. I'd still keep a couple of Relics in the sideboard.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    There are other factors for the relatively low price of Saheeli Rai:

    - Rotation is in two months, players are dumping standard cards.
    - She was high priced due to her combo deck in Standard. Her Modern performance is... mostly fringe. Nahiri, the Harbinger is a similar case, but she saw more success for a while.
    - She was printed in Kaladesh. The set of a card is a huge factor to a card's price, which many players tend to ignore. Kaladesh was:
    1. The first set post rotation, which is usually the most drafted/opened one.
    2. A big set. Smaller sets are not drafted alone, and last shorter amount of time, while large sets keep being drafted with smaller sets.
    3. It had inventions, which lower the value of standard cards, and make players more likely to buy packs.
    4. It had a lot of valuable cards: Chandra, Torrential Gearhulk, Fast lands, Smuggler's Copter before it was banned.

    Compare Saheeli to Liliana, the Last Hope, which was in a small Summer set (the least opened set in a year) or Collective Brutality from the same set. The set that contains a card is a huge factor.

    Saheeli will go up in time, but I doubt she will reach more than $10 in the next few years... unless she is featured in a GP winning deck.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mardu Pyromancer
    Great primer!
    Posted in: Midrange
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