Quote from Dromar the Banisher »Been playing Grenzo for the past few years and I'm curious what people like for a graveyard hate package. I don't play against a ton of graveyard shenanigans but there is a Meren deck that can be annoying quite once it gets going. Of course there's our old buddy Junktroller who serves multiple purposes in this deck but I like to have access to a little more than that.
I've had some success with Withered Wretch as a 2 power creature that Grenzo can flip and it's something fairly cheap to activate. Also holding mana up for Wretch goes hand-in-hand with what Grenzo wants to do anyways so it interacts nicely in that regard.
Similarly I've also tried Nezumi Graverobber but I've never actually managed to flip it so it's basically a Withered Wretch that's more expensive to use (and also needs colored mana). The flipped version does have a strong effect but if that never comes up then I have to deem the card not worthwhile.
There's also stuff like Crypt Creeper and Heap Doll which are kind of neat as they sac themselves but probably a bit too weak of an effect overall.
Bojuka Bog is an obvious freeroll in this deck. One shot exile someone's grave is handy. Can be a bit awkward if you draw it too early but I'm usually pretty happy having one in my deck.
Yet to try some other non-creatures like Relic of Progenitus, Nihil Spellbomb, Tormod's Crypt, Rakdos Charm, etc though I think for the most part I don't really want em since creatures tend to be better (especially in the case of Relic which nukes my own GY).
Looking through some cards I found Agent of Erebos which is a Tormod's crypt ETB effect on a creature. With a sac outlet/recursion you could in theory use it multiple times so that might be another good option. Anyone tested with it?
Also curious why no mention of Cloak and Dagger in the primer. This card is often better than any of the Lightning Greaves/Swiftfoot Boots type of effects in this deck since it not only auto equips to Grenzo but even boosts his power so you can save mana on casting him. Obviously adding non-creatures isn't ideal but I do think this equipment is worthwhile.
Quote from GrenzoEDH »Any thought to Vindictive Vampire at all? It does provide additional sacrifice value in the same style as Zulaport Cutthroat. No non-token clause either.
Quote from benjameenbear »Sorry, I meant Guardian Project. See, I promise I can read English...
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Quote from benjameenbear »The new Guardian's Plan looks AWESOME for Edric. Every single creature in Edric cantripping is just too much to ask for. I'll be preordering a copy of this card, make no mistake, since I believe it will be ridiculously powerful in Commander generally and Edric specifically.
The new Winged Salamander is cute and a decent inclusion for the deck. The fact that it can become a 5/5 for U will probably be relevant when the Board gets cleared for the 2nd or 3rd time, but otherwise it's just a 1/1 flyer for U. I'll be picking up a copy of this as well just for the lolz.
Quote from GrenzoEDH »Hey, I just wanted to extend my thanks to both snowfox54119 and Zervintz for your contributions to this topic and actively pursuing upgrades and enhancements to this incredibly fun and dynamic commander.
Quote from KitsuLeif »The best thing to do with an Enchanted Evening is to force a draw when you have Ajani's Chosen out. It creates an infinite loop that, when unanswered, lets the game end on the spot. It counts as a draw but it will feel like a win. At least it did for me the one time I pulled it off.
Quote from benjameenbear »@manugI84
Yeah, Gamble in the list that I'm currently running is not a risk I'm willing to take. If I happen to discard the card I tutor for, I have no real way of getting it back. Gamble works great in a Reanimator strategy, where the discard is indeed desirable. It's a decent suggestion though, so thanks for chiming in!
It sounds like you're also running a semi-Reanimator list, is that right? Do you have it posted somewhere?