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I had Tasigur in my previous version but didn´t like the strain it put on my graveyard. I had it in just because I wanted a non-pushable threat available
like you say but so far I have not been missing him. It can be that I will get back to him in the future but right now I like the Thrun and Tracker better in board because of them working well with a GY-hoser in play and the Rhino main for just, you know, Rhino-stuff.

What would you cut from my particular list to make room for him? And how would you reconfig the SB since I assume the thing getting cut from main would be put in the board and space would be needed in board?

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I like weathered wayfarer more than most. Typically you look to board him out when on the play, but on the draw I almost always keep him in. If people want to take him out for another crusader I wouldn't argue, but I think he is under appreciated.

Yeah Revoker is hit for miss,but so is a lot of the deck. The idea is to keep your opponent tilted and Revoker goes a long way in doing so. Again, I keep mine in, but people that take it out for a crusader are probably fine.

You can try a 2/2 split, but I have tried it and I prefer the 4 relics. Though, that being said, I have lost a round because ingot chewer kills relic, but RIP would have been ok. The relics lack the brute strength of RIP, but are easier to cast (esp through thalia), are easier on the curve, and cantrip instead of being dead draws when in multiples.

The key difference between forge tender and alliance is that forge tender prevents red wrath effects from destroying your board presence. It's an ok card against burn, there are better cards, but it's an ok card against burn that is also an excellent card against red board wipes.

I like worship as a card. I hate facing a worship, but I also hate relying on it. Outside of merfolk decks typically have a way of dealing with it somehow, so I don't want to rely on it. For example, Affinity may not be able to destroy the worship, but an unanswered grid can just kill your creatures.

Stony silence is good, but in no way guarantees a win against affinity. If affinity is prevalent I think 3 is the way to go, rather than 2, but I think I'm going to try 4 fragmentise this weekend instead. My current build is slightly different, which is key, but I'm finding the vials to be more clutch in the affinity matchup than previously thought. The freeing up of your mana is huge against affinity so you can open your GQ and edges, while cantriping to relvent cards with canopy and clues.

I feel like a lot of your questions can be broken down into 1 decision. D&T is an aggro deck that plans to keep your opponent "off their game" and there are two ways to do that; more passively, with finesse, by throwing small hurdles in their way (revoker, wayfarer, relics); or with more brute strength with less efficient cards, but cards with more board presence (crusader, RIP, Stony). The question you need to ask yourself is, "which type of player am I?".

Do you want your opponent to respect your threats more than your ability to hinder theirs? Are you confident in your play decisions to make your game strategy one long story rather than trying to just out muscle them? To an extent D&T inherently is a strategy that does both, but your answer will help guide your flex spots.

Quote from wanseb »

So I am back on Traverse after failing during last weekends PPTQ. Been testing this list on Xmage since I don´t have the means to shell out for the deck on MTGO currently. I´ve been winning a lot with it because of the versatility the deck provides and it´s very easily adapted to whatever deck you face. Thrun has been a house against all the UW-decks, the Flayers are aggressive enough against big mana along with the Fulminator providing a bump in the road for them. Anywho, I find this list to be the best one I´ve played with so far and it is not that different from Edel´s lists, just some flexspots different but it seems to be in a sweetspot at the moment for me. If you have any questions let me know but I think most is self-explanatory and just wanted to share.

Only change I´ve been thinking of is to replace the Quagmire with a Treetop for faster activations.

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Quote from mtgsnijepi »

Yeah, I figured it is a tough matchup. I believe our chances of winning vs it are better than g/x tron thou. So how many stony silences should be boarded in? I use 2 at the moment

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It turns off Walking Ballista, Hangarback Walker, Mind Stone, Relic of Progenitus, Ratchet Bomb, Basilisk Collar, and Expedition Map. That's generally worth it enough for me, especially since a couple of those cards can present a real problem.

Do you know what also presents a real problem? Thought-Knor Seer, Reality Smasher, Endbringer, Karn. So when you spend your entire turn 2 playing Stony Silence, only to get TKS into back-to-back Reality Smasher the following turns, tell me how good it felt to bring in.

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Damantion, Stony silence. I really can think anything else. It is a bas matchup like regular eldrazi and regular iron

I really wouldn't bring in Stony Silence, it's not a bullseye like it is against Regular tron. It turns off Wakling Balista, but that's really it, I still lose to Reality Smasher most of the time anyway. I'd prefer more removal and lifegain before Stony Silence.

I bring it Kitchen Finks, Blessed Alliance, Obstinate Baloth, Thrun, the Last Troll or Abzan Charm against all forms of Eldrazi and it works pretty well.

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