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  • posted a message on Introducing Jumpstart
    Quote from 5colors »
    I'm guessing 499 reprints of bulk draft chaff with one chase rare/mythic. (Oh and 37 commander cards to milk those players)

    There are hundreds of cards that need reprinted across several formats and this won't even make a scratch. They should call it Bulkstart. A new player can start loading up on unplayable bulk outside the first game they mash these together.

    Real, meaningful reprints Wizards!!!


    Could I see this bulk list?


    Yes, its every unneeded jank rare and uncommon that goes for 25 cents or less. You know 7 cmc green sorceries, french vanilla bears, etc. Anything basically constructed unplayable. Stuff everyone already has a playset of rotting away in a binder or box. Bulk.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Introducing Jumpstart
    I'm guessing 499 reprints of bulk draft chaff with one chase rare/mythic. (Oh and 37 commander cards to milk those players)

    There are hundreds of cards that need reprinted across several formats and this won't even make a scratch. They should call it Bulkstart. A new player can start loading up on unplayable bulk outside the first game they mash these together.

    Real, meaningful reprints Wizards!!!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Introducing Jumpstart
    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot???
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2020 Challenger Deck Decklists
    They have solid value for $30 each (assuming the same as last years price).


    There is no MSRP anymore, so the pricing will be variable, depending on what the distributors charge the stores. Big box stores are likely to have these for the lowest price possible. I would think pricing will be between $29.99 and $34.99, with a possible high price of $39.99.


    I only buy these from the box stores as the LGS near me likes to jack up the price. More than likely $30 each from WM and Target. We will see how greedy (or not) WotC is by what price gets charged at the box stores.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2020 Challenger Deck Decklists
    I will be picking up the R and BG decks for sure. Maybe the UG one as well. They have solid value for $30 each (assuming the same as last years price).

    Good to see some solid Pioneer play-ables in those 3. I am all for this product. Smile
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2/14 Secret Lairs: Theros Stargazing
    Quote from Xcric »
    Its all well and good to talk about but you also have to be able to flip things.

    A lot of the new theros stuff from premium packs i see people get excited for, then try to move them and they cant. A huge portion of ftv cards just sit and rot. Most of these stand a good chance of being sold at a loss despite what paper says.

    Regardless, theyre getting a ton of flak thrown at them for these products.


    Agreed again.

    The whole situation reminds me of what was happening to the Baseball Card/Sportscard world in the late 1980's and early 1990's before prices imploded. I am still sitting on older cards that I bought during that time that have barely moved in price or have dropped significantly. There was a ton of artificial "scarcity" with foil this, and ultra-bling that and pieces of bats/jersey/whatever cards. I just gave up on it and so did most of the other collectors. The one thing Wizards has going for it is that you can play the cards. If paper Magic is ever killed, these products are going to tank harder than the Titanic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2/14 Secret Lairs: Theros Stargazing
    But reminder the stain glass war walkers are in them maybe the ones we didn’t see in the first 5 will be here like narset, karn and liliana


    Unfortunately I am not in the habit of buying $40 scratch off tickets.

    Just not enough bang for my buck on these. I'll let others spend their money, I'm keeping mine on this product. 4 Oubliettes for $30 and I would bite.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2/14 Secret Lairs: Theros Stargazing
    Quote from Xcric »
    not impressed with these. too expensive. too little content. 3 gods with alt art. woopeedoo.

    i'd have been sold on these at this price point if they also included the weapons and nykthos maybe. as is? really tired of this product already.


    Agreed 100%.

    I just want the regular cards reprinted at a more affordable price OR include more content for the price. At these prices they can sit and spin.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 2/14 Secret Lairs: Theros Stargazing
    Should have been 5 gods at $29.99

    Looks like I will ignore these rip offs as well.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on 5 New Secret Lairs to be announced on Feb 14
    WotC, sell me a playset of Oubliette for $19.99 and I may bite. If not, keep your overpriced crap, I'm not buying.

    Easy as that.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Pioneer Banned List Speculation
    Hopefully they do ban Dig but I don't think that will be enough to bring down play of the combo enough. Killing Thassa's Oracle would pretty much insure the deck dies or at least is relegated to fringe territory. I would be okay with that. It gets boring getting beat game one on turn 5 pretty much every time I face the deck. It is making me play less.
    Posted in: Pioneer
  • posted a message on Help with pauper mill, PLEASE!
    You are doing a good thing to get people interested in the game, my congrats. Smile

    The mill deck is probably just too slow. Maybe you could shift it into more of a control or control with fliers deck. Mill is a tough archetype and really needs a critical mass to work properly. Maybe a budget-ish Mono Blue Control with cards like Delver of Secrets and Faeries could be a bit more competitive. Good luck. Smile
    Posted in: Pauper
  • posted a message on Pioneer Banned List Speculation
    An interesting read or view if you have the time.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewer-s-minute-beating-inverter

    14.3% of the meta right now.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pioneer#paper

    Stay tuned.

    PS: Dig Through Time needs to go, something from Inverter and Lotus Breach each needs nerfed as well. Combo should have a presence but not be the top 2 premier decks.
    Posted in: Pioneer
  • posted a message on oubliette Confirmed for a reprint in a upcoming set so where will it be reprinted?
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    I think we may have potentionalky found the answer

    https://mobile.twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1225841715094925313?s=21

    5 more secret lairs

    Jeez slow down on these guys


    Thanks(genuinely) for the heads up. Small numbers of these won't drop the price much if indeed Oubliette is to be in a Lair Drop. Original copies of Oubliette A or B will hold their value for the most part in LP to EX condition as there aren't many out there to be had as most copies seem to be in HP to damaged condition. If it is in a Lair Drop it will more than likely be sold for 20 bucks or more as a single. I will wait to see what happens here. Appreciate the heads-up.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on oubliette Confirmed for a reprint in a upcoming set so where will it be reprinted?
    Quote from WizardMN »
    I seem to have missed something in our exchange here. You made some inane comment about the reprint probably doing nothing to quell the price (at least, not to a low enough price to matter). I was simply pointing out that was wrong. The announcement has already dropped prices and my assertion was that the actual reprint would drop them further. I am not telling you to buy anything. TCGPlayer works fine for a lot of people and it is a reasonable indicator of market price since stores are generally slow to lower prices but individuals are not. Your distrust doesn't change the fact that the prices have halved.

    Since TCGPlayer isn't good enough (I chose them since they were the cheapest I could find), CardKingdom has them for $20 (near mint) and $17 (excellent/lightly played). Whether either of these places are good enough for *you* is, frankly, immaterial as this shows that the prices are already dropping.

    Again, I am not suggesting that you buy into them if you don't need them. In fact, what I am suggesting would the exact opposite of that. The price will continue to fall as people sell out of them until they reach a plateau (perhaps half the original price is that plateau for now) and then the actual reprint will cause them to go lower. There is no way a reprint causes prices to go back *up* from here (not in the short term anyway).


    Thanks for the insult too. Classless. Just another member to join my ignore list, don't bother with a reply.
    Posted in: Speculation
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