It's also the only place that was close enough for me to attend FNM. I hadn't attended for a year and a half because of one bad set after another, and was going to get back into going now that the game was looking better. I think the next closest place is Grognard Games.
I punch in Elgin IL and 19 stores pop up within 20 miles of Elgin, 30 within 25 miles. I know traffic is bad up there. (Unless you don't have a car I suppose.)
For comparisons sake I live on the other side of the state and my nearest LGS is 20+ miles. You live in the Chicago metro area, you can find a spot, look around. Again sorry for your LGS loss, but it looks like you have options. If you can't find somewhere up there, you aren't looking hard enough. Branch out, you'll find somewhere.
PS: Sorry I know I'm probably coming off as harsh. I don't know your exact situation. I wish I had the options you may (or may not) have available. Good luck in your search, and again I hope they catch the crook.
Sorry to hear that. Scumbags are everywhere unfortunately. What was stolen? If it was gaming merchandise you are probably looking at someone that frequents the store. Any players/patrons recently stop coming after the theft?
Hope they find them and hope the owner stays afloat. Best wishes.
On a side note, I've seen/held some of the cards. The Japanese print stock and coating is FAR SUPERIOR to the garbage USA Texas crap. The stock is thicker, ink bold and colorful and the cards more glossy and all I saw were straight as a board, even the foils. Amazing when they use the good stock/priting.
RG Cascade Aggro. Didn't have a bolt,flame slash or GY removal in hand. I will make sure if it pops up again I will mulligan until I do.
It was magical Christmas land for my opponent that game 3 for sure. As I said earlier, game one was a blowout on my part. But with so many combo pieces getting turn 4'd and turn 3'd doesn't seem like MTGO randomizes that well.
Been playing a little MTGO Tourney Practice recently and just ran across this new combo deck. It has a lot of pieces but I got turn 3 killed by it today. At least the stars aligned for my opponent game 3.
t1: Forest Tinder Wall
t2: Mountain tap for 1R Firebrand Archer
t3: Plains tap for 2W Tethmos High Priest sac Tinder Wall cast for RCrown of Flames on Priest, return Tinder Wall to battlefield Archer deals 1 to me, return Crown to hand for an R and rinse and repeat until dead.
Not sure how consistent this deck will be but Game 2 it comboed on turn 4 for the win. At least I picked up game one easily.
Anyone else experience this one or have a decklist so I can begin to think about sideboard options?
Anyway, this wont be expensive, way too many of them will be around and people that have Beta Bolts will never change to these.
I would have liked a "new" promo instead of one that already got a lot of promo cards.
Like Manamorphose , anyone ? (i would totally play 4 promo ones with a proper art that doesnt look as ugly as the existing ones).
It is in Standard. Might as well be a Black Lotus. WotC treats Bolt about like it.
With 80 uncommons in the set, and 72 (nonfoil) uncommons in each booster box, the expected number per box of any specific uncommon isn't even quite 1.
Thanks for the correction. Proves my point even more that the needle won't drop far on this card with so few copies out there. Price will jump right back to where it was a month or two after release.
$4 in a set full of value like this? I'd be surprised if the price doesn't get slashed in half at least.
Get your surpriser ready.
$3.50 at ChannelFireball and CardKingdom
$3.99 at SCG
$3.63 cheapest shipped on ebay
Just moved the needle back to April 2017 pricewise.
Maybe it will drop but I highly doubt it. At common it would have for sure.
The set isn't even out yet.
Yep and I'm expecting this one to actually go up on release. Its used in a lot of decks in several formats. Copies will be kept and played or hoarded. At what maybe 2 copies a booster box? Should have left it at common to move the needle significantly.
Glad to hear, we have some common ground then. I can understand your reservations for it falling too far, but we agree it needs to be cheaper. Anyone who can't or won't answer the question pretty much says they want it to go up because of their greed. Speaks volumes of those who don't. I'm glad both of you have answered, thank you.
So, you're mad because all the cards are cheaper, but they aren't cheaper enough? Sounds pretty entitled, to me.
When is wanting to pay less for a product entitlement? You and I agree to disagree and move on, I can't debate with crazy.
@BuffSam89: You and I are done.
... and I'm done with the thread. Anything else is unhealthy at this point. Time to move on.
They printed them into the dirt and people left in droves
The card pool at the time was a tiny fraction of what it is now. Tourney playable staples numbers were far lower at that time. And yes I remember buying Chronicles. It was cool for a while until I figured out those cards still sucked in competitive play and I'd get my butt handed to me by those that had a hold of the power 9 and other competitive 93/94 cards that never saw a reprint in Chronicles. Wizards would have to print a set with several thousand cards in numbers unheard of to do anything close to what Chronicles may or may not have done.
This game needs to be cheaper, not more expensive. PERIOD.
Wizards numbers are good right now and have been over the previous year dropping prices by a large margin is bad for wizards . And prices on almost all cards are down and have been for almost two months lilis are down almost 25 buck from her high of 110 . This is in line with the natural economic flow though. The Game is cheaper . Maybe just draft it’s honestly the cheapest way to play and really one of the most skill intensive .
So what Jund in Modern costs 1900 bucks instead of 2000. Whew what a bargain!!! Selling cards to distributors makes Wizards money. They don't see a penny of the secondary market (legally).
This Elitism seems to be pervasive right now. It will kill the game, mark my words.
This game needs to be cheaper, not more expensive. PERIOD.
It's a shame this set is making things... more expensive?
TEMPORARY!!!
12 to 18 months out prices will be right up to what they were before, if not higher. Hoarders and investors will sit on product until they can extract higher prices. Happens all the time, will happen again.
What you want is those that have invested both time and money to sacrifice all of that so that you can enjoy this game the same way they do. Now, talk about unfair.
I'd be willing to bet that I have a lot more money "invested" in this game than 90% of the playership out there. If it would crash to 90% of current values tomorrow I'd be in for as big as loss as most, if not more. The thing is I don't really care if it did. I've gone into it with that mindset. Its not an investment or fallback for me its a hobby (and a competitive one at times). And its a hobby I'd like to see become less expensive.
Don't use sacrifice around a hobby as well. It cheapens the word to those in this world who have truly sacrificed for their fellow man. I know quite a few people who have truly sacrificed for others and I am so grateful they have.
Really? Because nearly every staple card reprinted in this "unobtainably expensive set" has considerably dropped in price.
Sure they have dropped maybe 20 to 25%. Thank goodness someone can pay 280 bucks for a set of Goyf instead of 360 a while back. These will also be short-lived dips as well. In a year to 18 months prices will have returned to previous levels for most of the staple (power) cards. I have a lot of money parked in cardboard as well. I have skin in the game. Its not my livlihood though, I'm blessed to be able to pursue it at this time. I'd like to see it open to more people as well and if that means I take a huge hit, so be it.
And noone has still answered my question. Do you want to see the hobby become more or less expensive. The silence speaks volumes and reeks of elitism.
They printed them into the dirt and people left in droves
The card pool at the time was a tiny fraction of what it is now. Tourney playable staples numbers were far lower at that time. And yes I remember buying Chronicles. It was cool for a while until I figured out those cards still sucked in competitive play and I'd get my butt handed to me by those that had a hold of the power 9 and other competitive 93/94 cards that never saw a reprint in Chronicles. Wizards would have to print a set with several thousand cards in numbers unheard of to do anything close to what Chronicles may or may not have done.
This game needs to be cheaper, not more expensive. PERIOD.
I punch in Elgin IL and 19 stores pop up within 20 miles of Elgin, 30 within 25 miles. I know traffic is bad up there. (Unless you don't have a car I suppose.)
For comparisons sake I live on the other side of the state and my nearest LGS is 20+ miles. You live in the Chicago metro area, you can find a spot, look around. Again sorry for your LGS loss, but it looks like you have options. If you can't find somewhere up there, you aren't looking hard enough. Branch out, you'll find somewhere.
PS: Sorry I know I'm probably coming off as harsh. I don't know your exact situation. I wish I had the options you may (or may not) have available. Good luck in your search, and again I hope they catch the crook.
Hope they find them and hope the owner stays afloat. Best wishes.
On a side note, I've seen/held some of the cards. The Japanese print stock and coating is FAR SUPERIOR to the garbage USA Texas crap. The stock is thicker, ink bold and colorful and the cards more glossy and all I saw were straight as a board, even the foils. Amazing when they use the good stock/priting.
It was magical Christmas land for my opponent that game 3 for sure. As I said earlier, game one was a blowout on my part. But with so many combo pieces getting turn 4'd and turn 3'd doesn't seem like MTGO randomizes that well.
t1: Forest Tinder Wall
t2: Mountain tap for 1R Firebrand Archer
t3: Plains tap for 2W Tethmos High Priest sac Tinder Wall cast for RCrown of Flames on Priest, return Tinder Wall to battlefield Archer deals 1 to me, return Crown to hand for an R and rinse and repeat until dead.
Not sure how consistent this deck will be but Game 2 it comboed on turn 4 for the win. At least I picked up game one easily.
Anyone else experience this one or have a decklist so I can begin to think about sideboard options?
It is in Standard.
Thanks for the correction. Proves my point even more that the needle won't drop far on this card with so few copies out there. Price will jump right back to where it was a month or two after release.
Yep and I'm expecting this one to actually go up on release. Its used in a lot of decks in several formats. Copies will be kept and played or hoarded. At what maybe 2 copies a booster box? Should have left it at common to move the needle significantly.
Get your surpriser ready.
$3.50 at ChannelFireball and CardKingdom
$3.99 at SCG
$3.63 cheapest shipped on ebay
Just moved the needle back to April 2017 pricewise.
Maybe it will drop but I highly doubt it. At common it would have for sure.
Glad to hear, we have some common ground then. I can understand your reservations for it falling too far, but we agree it needs to be cheaper. Anyone who can't or won't answer the question pretty much says they want it to go up because of their greed. Speaks volumes of those who don't. I'm glad both of you have answered, thank you.
When is wanting to pay less for a product entitlement? You and I agree to disagree and move on, I can't debate with crazy.
@BuffSam89: You and I are done.
... and I'm done with the thread. Anything else is unhealthy at this point. Time to move on.
So what Jund in Modern costs 1900 bucks instead of 2000. Whew what a bargain!!! Selling cards to distributors makes Wizards money. They don't see a penny of the secondary market (legally).
This Elitism seems to be pervasive right now. It will kill the game, mark my words.
TEMPORARY!!!
12 to 18 months out prices will be right up to what they were before, if not higher. Hoarders and investors will sit on product until they can extract higher prices. Happens all the time, will happen again.
I'd be willing to bet that I have a lot more money "invested" in this game than 90% of the playership out there. If it would crash to 90% of current values tomorrow I'd be in for as big as loss as most, if not more. The thing is I don't really care if it did. I've gone into it with that mindset. Its not an investment or fallback for me its a hobby (and a competitive one at times). And its a hobby I'd like to see become less expensive.
Don't use sacrifice around a hobby as well. It cheapens the word to those in this world who have truly sacrificed for their fellow man. I know quite a few people who have truly sacrificed for others and I am so grateful they have.
Sure they have dropped maybe 20 to 25%. Thank goodness someone can pay 280 bucks for a set of Goyf instead of 360 a while back. These will also be short-lived dips as well. In a year to 18 months prices will have returned to previous levels for most of the staple (power) cards. I have a lot of money parked in cardboard as well. I have skin in the game. Its not my livlihood though, I'm blessed to be able to pursue it at this time. I'd like to see it open to more people as well and if that means I take a huge hit, so be it.
And noone has still answered my question. Do you want to see the hobby become more or less expensive. The silence speaks volumes and reeks of elitism.
The card pool at the time was a tiny fraction of what it is now. Tourney playable staples numbers were far lower at that time. And yes I remember buying Chronicles. It was cool for a while until I figured out those cards still sucked in competitive play and I'd get my butt handed to me by those that had a hold of the power 9 and other competitive 93/94 cards that never saw a reprint in Chronicles. Wizards would have to print a set with several thousand cards in numbers unheard of to do anything close to what Chronicles may or may not have done.
This game needs to be cheaper, not more expensive. PERIOD.