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  • posted a message on Commander Collection: Black
    mediocre.

    i love the arts on some.

    i hate that these continue to have sol rings and command towers. some of the card choices are lackluster. ghoulcaller gisa is cool, kinda... but not necessarily in a premium product. but hey at least i guess she's finally available in foil? neat? i like the original art much more. oh well. phyrexian arena has a billion printings, its iconic... but its not necessary to have it AGAIN when things like razaketh, necropotence, and dark confidant all exist and need another reprint sometime. i'm tired of seeing reanimate in every product. where's animate dead or necromancy or dance of the dead? where is literally anything else?

    i'll pick up singles from this one - probably just gisa and liliana.
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  • posted a message on Magic Showcase 2021
    way too much *****.

    most of it doesn't even appeal to me because its universes beyond. this all right after we were supposed to be hyped for upcoming innistrad previews, which were hot on the heels of idk whatever the last set was that just came out, forgotten realms? they're getting difficult to track now too.

    its just too much. they answered complaints about product flood with a deluge.

    i should be hyped for a brothers war set. i loved the book, i've read the things every single year since it was first published. i loved all of that stuff. i've wanted a proper set for it for decades now... and yet... i don't give a ****. it'll just be more of the same turn offs. all the value at mythic, too many variant borders and arts, no time to actually digest and play with the set before we're on to the next thing.

    cool?

    i'm sure the pioneer decks will be turds that are a mediocre entry point to the format... and has that format even gained traction anywhere? does anyone even care? i'm sure there'll be 1 hot card just to make the kit sell.

    then theres universes beyond, thats just too much. way too much. i hate this idea. i'm not alone. now we get it jammed down our throats like... well use whatever metaphor you prefer but regardless, its not cool.

    i didn't like the forgotten realms setting, a lot of people didn't, so here's some baldur's gate about it but now its mixed with your commander cards so you commander players are forced into it. oh you bought so much! you love the setting! universes beyond is a hit! -its manipulative bull***** right here.

    it wouldn't be so bad except that these are also game pieces. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed. these are also game pieces that are generally pushed to sell product, so if you want to stay relevant and not get absolutely steam rolled by whoever at whatever event, you're sure as ***** buying into it. that's just not fair any more.

    frankly, as hyped as i should be for some of these products, i give zero ****s and this has gone a long way toward turning me off completely. right now i'd rather spend my money on literally any other game that doesn't bombard me with new crap every single month. that doesn't exploit fomo. that doesn't push new cards and force me into them to stay relevant.

    this kind of pace and pigheadedness will be the thing that destroys magic on a long enough timeline. i'm not a sky is falling type person, haven't been in 27 years of playing... but thats how i feel after this past year and seeing what the next one will be like.
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  • posted a message on Magic: The Gathering's Secret Lair: Purrfection
    Poor selection of cards for this one given the price
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  • posted a message on Planechase Commander? Hint from WotC Survey
    Before we go attacking each other- oh wait!

    Anyway also keep in mind planechase 2 only had like 2 decks. One of them basically being tribal. There were some hot cards, but not an abundance of them so value at the time was minimal. This makes the product much harder to sell as it appeals to even less audience. Id be skeptical of anything claiming it makes the entire product line unpopular and a failure.

    I see a lot of people here saying they loved it. Thats been my experience too - as i had said earlier.

    Its also been my experience that the people who hate it really hate it and have to shove that down everyones throat as if theyre all wrong about it. I see that trend continues to prove itself in this thread too.

    Honestly, in the era where everything has a variant printing, and universes beyond is also a thing, where we venture into dungeons and get flip cards every other set. why cant there be room for this too? Its just another way to play, and its optional, unlike everything else.
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  • posted a message on Universes Beyond Officially Discontinued for MTG?
    misleading thread title, but thats okay because its a fundamental misunderstanding of their intent with UB, which is also understandable given the ******* avalanche of information they throw at us daily.

    i wish they'd scrap the entire concept.

    keep speaking up. especially with your cash.
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  • posted a message on Planechase Commander? Hint from WotC Survey
    i've always wished that they'd release a planechase deck with each new block - or i guess new set since they can't be bothered with blocks any more

    something like just a nice little 60 card precon and 5 planes. nothing fancy. 1 throwback plane, 1 preview plane for the next set, and 3 from that set.

    hell, make it a commander deck and the planes are just a bonus or something
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  • posted a message on [MID] Wrenn and Promo Cards— Weekly MTG previews
    Theres some decent cards here, and some solid themes

    Its just very difficult to give a damn right now.

    Still, i have to wonder how bad forgotten realms is doing, and how poorly received arena jumpstart exclusives are, that they pushed these previews out so close to those releases. It feels like a deflection tactic. Dont focus on those, focus on these instead.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad midnight hunt sneak previews tomorrow
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    Quote from Xcric »
    I should be excited for this.

    I love innistrad. I love werewolves, zombies, vampires. Gothic horror. Eldritch horror. Everything.

    Yet...

    Im just not. I just do not care any more.

    We barely digested strixhaven before mh2, then forgotten realms shortly after that. Its difficult to care any more at all. It use to be overwhelming, it use to be frustrating, and now... now it just... i dont care.

    Theres no time to enjoy anything any more. No time to acquire new cards. No time to test them. Cant even remember half of them any more. We get a week or two to draft and we're already on to the next thing, and the next, and the next.

    And i just... i dont care any more.

    I know im not alone.

    Product fatigue is a thing.

    I'm just looking forward to the flavour, the artwork, and the atmosphere of Innistrad post-Emrakul-in-the-moon-war-of-the-spark shenanigans. Or some sort of a comprehensive story aspect because lately it's been shaky at most.



    'buster


    It certainly is.

    My hopes for a coherent story, or even a mildly interesting one, are extremely low.

    Since the mediocre wrap of war of the spark it feels like theyve been playing at the idea of no story at all. Just pump out cards. Even world building feels as if its fallen by the wayside.
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  • posted a message on [Jumpstart Historic Brawl] Davriel, Soul Broker and Davriel's Withering BANNED
    The amount i loathe these cards climbs daily.

    It was a ***** decision to make these at all.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad midnight hunt sneak previews tomorrow
    I should be excited for this.

    I love innistrad. I love werewolves, zombies, vampires. Gothic horror. Eldritch horror. Everything.

    Yet...

    Im just not. I just do not care any more.

    We barely digested strixhaven before mh2, then forgotten realms shortly after that. Its difficult to care any more at all. It use to be overwhelming, it use to be frustrating, and now... now it just... i dont care.

    Theres no time to enjoy anything any more. No time to acquire new cards. No time to test them. Cant even remember half of them any more. We get a week or two to draft and we're already on to the next thing, and the next, and the next.

    And i just... i dont care any more.

    I know im not alone.
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  • posted a message on Dominaria United and Kamigawa Neon Dynasty - New Sets 2022?
    i'm betting we get sensei's divining top as a mythic with 300 different variant arts.

    bitterness aside, i'd love to see more snake people. i wasn't playing during the first kamigawa, and the setting still doesn't interest me much. pushing it dramatically forward in time could be a lot of fun.
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  • posted a message on Planechase Commander? Hint from WotC Survey
    Quote from Cranky »
    Please god no, Planechase is a nightmare and once the novelty wears off everyone who has ever tried it grows to hate it. Deckbuilding and skill are completely negated and it becomes all about who rolls better and which random plane helps who the most. I collected every deck to acquired every plane as they were released, including promos, and I can say unequivocally that there hasn't been a worse variant format to date.


    i have to completely disagree.

    my playgroup has loved it, and has enjoyed it almost every time we've played it. the volatility and randomness makes for some really intense and different games. sometimes you get a plane that pushes someone miles ahead (otaria) but when you play with every plane it doesn't come up that often. people also try to abuse certain ones and that makes you move onto another one pretty fast usually too. people like to say it turns into a slog where someone has a berjillion mana and just keeps rolling... but in practice that really hasn't been the case for us. newer or crappier players sure, but then they're just sitting there rolling and not doing anything. that's pretty much what they were going to do with all that mana in a normal game anyway, sit there and not do anything.

    it is crap for cedh though, way too inconsistent and volatile, but also largely doesn't matter with those types of decks because they tend to ignore the planar die anyway.

    the real problem for us regarding planechase has been there is almost always one guy who shares your mentality of it. they moan and gripe and carry on because they got blown out once due to randomness, or they got stuck in a 3 hour game for the same reason. as a result we have to wait for them to leave so we can play without excluding them from the night, and then we have a blast. sometimes we have enough people and interest to set up a planechase pod in addition to the normal pods. by the end of the night most players are chomping at the bit to be in that pod because of how much more fun it is than sitting there losing to a t3 thoracle.
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  • posted a message on Arena Jumpstart - New Kiora and more blue cards (Eurogamer preview)
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    Magic is merely adapting, that's what's going on here. Is it kind of tacky? Yeah I guess so. Maybe they're doing that to create a separate experience between paper and digital so that players can stick to one versus feeling unintentionally obligated to purchase paper cards to keep up in that manner and vice versa. I don't believe Historic is a big format in paper Magic as is, say Modern.

    While MTGSally is but a blip in the Magic community, according to Rudy the Taco Man, Magic enjoyed some of its highest revenues in 2020. So whether MTGSally says so otherwise, people are liking this, minus the occasional uproar. According to The Professor and CGB, among others, there's a big sentiment of discontent by the MTG community but we all know people will participate in it.

    Freedom of choice is a ***** ain't it?

    Take what you want from it.

    'buster


    this keeps getting touted. that they made so much money during 2020 that everyone must love these decisions. normally that might be true... but

    hobby spending saw a massive increase across the board, every single hobby, in 2020. we had nothing else to do. every single gaming hobby saw massive surges. i think its disingenuous for these companies to have made major decisions during that period and then to tout them as major successes based solely on sales data. regardless of what they did they were going to sell. its just the nature of hobbies during 2020. people were stuck at home and dumped a lot of money into those aspects of their lives. i think more time will really show us if these decisions were true successes or not.

    if player backlash increases, or if bubbles suddenly burst, then it becomes very obvious that it was a poor decision that was not healthy for the game. that's another thing too, just because you're making money like gangbusters doesn't necessarily mean the game is healthy. these hobbies, especially this one, is also a game. its not just collecting, its not just hoarding, but we actively play. you can sell product hand over fist, but if no one wants to play the game that will catch up to you and your business model will collapse. under normal circumstances everything would be different, but 2020 was a mess. so... we'll see. right now there's a lot of vocal backlash, but we just keep spending anyway.

    they're also decisions designed to drive hype, designed to drive you to buy packs without thinking long term, to fear missing out on new stuff or the next hot thing. they're changes to exploit you, to compel you to spend more. that's not long term sustainable - especially as the EV of a pack decreases and the cost of that pack increases (that's coming soon).

    i'm wagering this'll all run out sooner rather than later, and then we'll all be saying what the **** happened like it hasn't been obvious.
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  • posted a message on Arena Jumpstart - New Kiora and more blue cards (Eurogamer preview)
    Yeah, I do prefer that, but wasn't sure if it works in Commander. There's no sideboard to "wish" from, right? Unless you can? Then again, if I'm house rules allowing this proxy, it wouldn't matter I suppos


    remember the golden Rule 0 of EDH : as long for your playgroup is fine and fair play, anything goes.


    rule zero doesn't work in the modern commander era.

    you need a consistent group of people that are okay with it. that just isn't likely any more. with the surge in popularity it means your local lgs is eager to cash in, and at the same time people are more likely to play there. that means you're going up an ever inconsistent group of people. whats fine one week won't be the next, and at the same time maybe the only way to play is in an event. that needs a standardized list without exceptions in order to maximize participation. otherwise you get a real feels bad moment when you show up and find out sol ring is banned, or no infinite combo, or whatever other house thing makes you gut your deck, or that other guy gut his. thats a person that doesn't come back, and they have to sit out the entire night.

    hell, we've even tried the recommended shuffling short cut. the one literally listed on the edh website. but because it was recommended and not in the official rules we had multiple newcomers not only throw a fit over it but also not come back because of it.

    people are very strict in what they expect.

    so rule zero is not some magical catch all the way they want it to be.

    anyway, i might think tiro flew off the handle a bit here - but honestly he's right in everything he's saying. this kind of exclusivity is bull***** and helps erode the game even further.
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  • posted a message on Arena Jumpstart - New Kiora and more blue cards (Eurogamer preview)
    i like her, and her artwork a lot. i'm more than a little irritated that it'll never be playable outside of the digital space. the decision to make digital only exclusives has honestly turned me off from using that medium to play completely. i don't want to support that business model, so i no longer will.
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