Green: This color is fine for some strange people who actually want to live in the forest away from all technology. It mostly applies to Native Americans, I guess. It's not the most of us.
holy crap racist stereotyping much?
anyway!
the inherent problem with a lot of these arguments is that you're over generalizing what it is to be those colors. i don't have it in front of me the but the book of short stories, the colors of magic, had really well written summaries of what it was it was to be a certain color at the start of each set of color associated stories. it wasn't about liking fire, or liking animals, or the water, it was a set of ideals inherent to each color that defines a person as well as the color. i really wish i had it here somewhere...
oh wait. its on amazon.
"white is the color of temptation and innocence, purity and civility, people characterized by this color love life and longevity but do so without excess or grandeur. some see white as childish - a return to youth - but others know it to be filled with focus and a desire to live an uncluttered life. white is for the honest, the righteous and the eager, the decent and civic-minded who will stand up to protect justice and honor. it is the color of the plains and temples, the color of the scholar and the virtuous knight alike. white is for those who belive in a cause and believe in themselves, for those unafraid to stand up in the face of adversity."
see how that doesn't over generalize and simplify things down to 'you like the plains and the sun' its more of an ethical and moral code that a person would live by than anything else. there was a summary like this for each color in that book.
I got mine on the 2nd, enveloped marked 12/30/09. Paper explaining contents is on plain white paper, not like before with logos and such. Something I would like to see come out within this year, a new DCI card. If you could put some art on your card, what would it be? I would like some dragons or maybe From the Vault but instead of "Dragons" have my DCI #.
i really wish they would let you order new dci cards and have an image selection process. give you multiple artworks to choose from, or even let you do a custom one. much in the way credit card companies do. my dci card is cardboard and from 1997, its falling apart. i finally got a plastic one a few months ago. it had sarkhan vol on it. sarkhan vol is the embodiment of absolutely everything i hate about a certain category of magic player and he's a character with no depth. i threw it out. i was not going to use a dci card with the image of a character i hate so much on it. i'm still using that cardboard one from 1997 instead. its incredibly disappointing.
its basically just thrown in as an obstacle. the pre-revisionist books did this a lot, it was basically just throw in as many card references as you can and build a story around it. as a result they have little to nothing to do with the current storyline, or as current as bloodlines is anyway.
they're still a good read though. its interesting to see what an author can do when they basically just make up a story about the cards.
as for prophecy, even if you're a keldon fan, its a snoozefest. its without a doubt one of the worst books, not just magic books, that i've ever read. you're better off getting all the pertinent information from the wiki. you won't disappoint yourself that way.
It IS boring to play against a deck like that. Many people (including myself) won't even play with a deck like that, let alone against them. Assuming this is casual play, the object is for the players to enjoy the game as well as win if possible. Why (in casual) would someone play a deck that makes the game boring if it works like it's supposed to?
because its not boring, and thats exactly the kind of attitude that makes a lot of casual playgroups stagnant. rather than adapt and learn how to beat the deck its easier to whine and not play against it. i've had this problem in my casual play group any time they see a counterspell. i figured ok fine, i won't use counterspells, well then it just shifts to any deck that wins. blah blah this isn't fun you control the game. well, learn how to play better and you won't be so butt-hurt when you can't keep a creature in play and mine face no threat of removal. there is absolutely no reason why casual has to mean bad. some combos are a pain to deal with and not really fair, but for the most part if its in the game theres no reason why it should be frowned on in casual. casual is about fun sure, but its also about learning to play better while having fun, and thats not something you can do if you're building and playing against decks that don't utilize everything the game has to offer.
edit: woops i totally posted a response to a second thread in this post.
oh and i've been having the same problem in my casual group. no one will play against me. i'm sorry i'm not going to go through my commons box and pull out 60 random cards and build a deck just so you can win. you learn to beat me and play your deck better, or too bad. i took to borrowing other people's decks because i wanted to play and they wouldn't go up against mine (which weren't very good anyway) and i would still win, and then they stopped letting me borrow decks. its all about piloting something well, you can't pilot anything well if you don't have the experience to know what to play and when to play it because you won't play certain decks. anyone who scoops or refuses to play against something only hurts themself.
5 of those 5 row boxes full of commons. one for each color obviously. another one of those boxes for the uncommon and common lands/artifacts/gold cards. another one with each row dedicated to a color for uncommmons. another one for basic land. all rares worth less than $2.00 in two 2 inch binders. everything worth more $than 2.50 or a rare in standard in a 3 inch binder.
i need to break the 3 inch binder down. its too big. i'm probably going to put standard legal cards in their own binder.
i want to break the commons down further by set, but thats just too many cards to sort through. i realized the other day that i have more cards than all the card shops around here.
i've always wondered. is there a way to get a new plastic dci card?
i hated the art on the one they gave me so much that i'd rather use my falling apart paper one from 1997.
i've looked all over the site but can't seem to find an option for that.
when i learned to play it was lands up front creatures behind. its how everyone did it, and thats how it was pictured just about everywhere too. i changed to creatures up front lands in the back recently though because all the newer players were complaining they couldn't see what i had in play.
dunno, never seemed that difficult or confusing to me.
i don't mind proxies if you ask me first and your'e just testing a deck.
what i mind are the people that come to a play group with half their deck proxied, make no attempt to get the cards, and use that deck for every game. why even bother? i might as well go to the store and get a deck of playing cards and just write names on them.
every black card i owned from 4th edition, fallen empires, homelands, ice age, and chronicles that got 3 stars or more according to the rating system at the back of inquest magazine. it was a 100 card deck, and it actually won 2 of 3 games.
clearly this was back when these sets were new, before alliances even came out, or maybe around the same time? i don't remember if homelands was before or after alliances. either way the deck blew ass.
thankfully only 1 halo hunter.
holy crap racist stereotyping much?
anyway!
the inherent problem with a lot of these arguments is that you're over generalizing what it is to be those colors. i don't have it in front of me the but the book of short stories, the colors of magic, had really well written summaries of what it was it was to be a certain color at the start of each set of color associated stories. it wasn't about liking fire, or liking animals, or the water, it was a set of ideals inherent to each color that defines a person as well as the color. i really wish i had it here somewhere...
oh wait. its on amazon.
"white is the color of temptation and innocence, purity and civility, people characterized by this color love life and longevity but do so without excess or grandeur. some see white as childish - a return to youth - but others know it to be filled with focus and a desire to live an uncluttered life. white is for the honest, the righteous and the eager, the decent and civic-minded who will stand up to protect justice and honor. it is the color of the plains and temples, the color of the scholar and the virtuous knight alike. white is for those who belive in a cause and believe in themselves, for those unafraid to stand up in the face of adversity."
see how that doesn't over generalize and simplify things down to 'you like the plains and the sun' its more of an ethical and moral code that a person would live by than anything else. there was a summary like this for each color in that book.
i really wish they would let you order new dci cards and have an image selection process. give you multiple artworks to choose from, or even let you do a custom one. much in the way credit card companies do. my dci card is cardboard and from 1997, its falling apart. i finally got a plastic one a few months ago. it had sarkhan vol on it. sarkhan vol is the embodiment of absolutely everything i hate about a certain category of magic player and he's a character with no depth. i threw it out. i was not going to use a dci card with the image of a character i hate so much on it. i'm still using that cardboard one from 1997 instead. its incredibly disappointing.
they're still a good read though. its interesting to see what an author can do when they basically just make up a story about the cards.
as for prophecy, even if you're a keldon fan, its a snoozefest. its without a doubt one of the worst books, not just magic books, that i've ever read. you're better off getting all the pertinent information from the wiki. you won't disappoint yourself that way.
with all that mill going on you might even want to throw in reanimation stuff too, if theres space.
because its not boring, and thats exactly the kind of attitude that makes a lot of casual playgroups stagnant. rather than adapt and learn how to beat the deck its easier to whine and not play against it. i've had this problem in my casual play group any time they see a counterspell. i figured ok fine, i won't use counterspells, well then it just shifts to any deck that wins. blah blah this isn't fun you control the game. well, learn how to play better and you won't be so butt-hurt when you can't keep a creature in play and mine face no threat of removal. there is absolutely no reason why casual has to mean bad. some combos are a pain to deal with and not really fair, but for the most part if its in the game theres no reason why it should be frowned on in casual. casual is about fun sure, but its also about learning to play better while having fun, and thats not something you can do if you're building and playing against decks that don't utilize everything the game has to offer.
edit: woops i totally posted a response to a second thread in this post.
oh and i've been having the same problem in my casual group. no one will play against me. i'm sorry i'm not going to go through my commons box and pull out 60 random cards and build a deck just so you can win. you learn to beat me and play your deck better, or too bad. i took to borrowing other people's decks because i wanted to play and they wouldn't go up against mine (which weren't very good anyway) and i would still win, and then they stopped letting me borrow decks. its all about piloting something well, you can't pilot anything well if you don't have the experience to know what to play and when to play it because you won't play certain decks. anyone who scoops or refuses to play against something only hurts themself.
i need to break the 3 inch binder down. its too big. i'm probably going to put standard legal cards in their own binder.
i want to break the commons down further by set, but thats just too many cards to sort through. i realized the other day that i have more cards than all the card shops around here.
sweet thanks, i'll do that monday then.
i hated the art on the one they gave me so much that i'd rather use my falling apart paper one from 1997.
i've looked all over the site but can't seem to find an option for that.
dunno, never seemed that difficult or confusing to me.
what i mind are the people that come to a play group with half their deck proxied, make no attempt to get the cards, and use that deck for every game. why even bother? i might as well go to the store and get a deck of playing cards and just write names on them.
clearly this was back when these sets were new, before alliances even came out, or maybe around the same time? i don't remember if homelands was before or after alliances. either way the deck blew ass.
playing land. the entire theme of zendikar. why would you play more land if you knew that your opponent was going to benefit from it.