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  • posted a message on Are the books really any good?
    Quote from Maybe Eid
    My opinions:

    The Colors of Magic - C+
    The Myths of Magic - C-
    The Dragons of Magic - D-
    The Secrets of Magic - B
    The Monsters of Magic - F

    Weatherlight Saga:
    The Thran - A
    The Brothers' War - A+
    Planeswalker - C
    Time Streams - B-
    Bloodlines - B+
    Rath and Storm - C
    Mercadian Masques - C+
    Nemesis - B+
    Prophecy - F
    Invasion - C-
    Planeshift - C-
    Apocalypse - C-

    Ice Age Cycle:
    The Gathering Dark - A
    The Eternal Ice - B+
    The Shattered Alliance - B-

    Magic Legends Cycle:
    Johan - F
    Jedit - D-
    Hazezon - D+

    Magic Legends II Cycle:
    Assassin's Blade - B
    Emperor's Fist - B+
    Champion's Trial - D-

    Otaria Crapfest:
    Odyssey - F
    Chainer's Torment - B+
    Judgment - C+
    Onslaught - D+
    Legions - F
    Scourge - F

    Mirrodin Cycle:
    The Moons of Mirrodin - D-
    The Darksteel Eye - F
    The Fifth Dawn - C

    Kamigawa Cycle:
    Outlaw: Champions of Kamigawa - B
    Heretic: Betrayers of Kamigawa - B
    Guardian: Saviors of Kamigawa - B

    Ravnica Cycle:
    Ravnica, City of Guilds - B+
    Guildpact - B
    Dissension - C+

    Time Spiral Cycle:
    Time Spiral - F
    Planar Chaos - F
    Future Sight - F

    Lorwyn Cycle
    Lorwyn - F
    Morningtide - F
    Shadowmoor - C

    i agree with those ratings almost entirely. except i would've been more harsh on the newer books.

    i stopped playing the game after apocalypse, and kept up with the story instead for a time. the majority of the books after apocalypse i at least read, i didn't like them, but i could get through them (ravnica was the best of the new lot by far).

    for some reason i keep picking up the books when they come out. i keep trying to read them. i get about five pages in, then end up skipping ahead to see if it improves any. they don't. completely unreadable. after the ravnica cycle everything took a major turn for the worse. (though everything between apocalypse and ravnica was pretty bad too)

    i've read a lot of bad books, but these have become worse than trash. the storylines are convoluted and poorly written. nothing is explored. nothing is explained. we move from one pointless fight to another with very little in the way of actual plot or dialogue. its a quick buck, and an easy way out of actually having to produce quality and depth to a game that had more than any other, because that takes effort.

    anyway, that all being said, i absolutely loved the older books, i end up rereading brothers war, the gathering dark, and the thran at least once a year. then die a little inside when i have to put them back on the shelf next to such trash as the mirrodin, otraria, time spiral, and lorwyn cycles.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Question about 'walkers/TS
    i thought part of the reason planeswalkers had so much power was not so much because of the spark, yes that allows them to have greater access to those powers and travel the planes, but more so that they could indeed travel the planes

    part of the theory was that the longer you live, the more places you visit, the more familiar you become with the land, the more land you're familiar with the greater your options for drawing mana from it, similar to say putting more cards in your deck, you have access to more

    given that the spark made planeswalkers immortal, and allowed them to traverse the planes, wouldn't part of the power come from that ability? if you can visit countless worlds, you have countless worlds to be familiarized with and thus draw mana from

    so in changing the nature of the spark, haven't they also changed the very nature of the theory of mana?

    look at jodah and barrin for instance, ancient, powerful, while not as powerful as planeswalkers they still have the ability to give almost anyone a run for their money

    anyway, if this is all true, isn't it still theoretically possible for these neowalkers to do the same thing? use their ability to visit various planes and gather the resources to be as gods?

    so essentially the wizards storyline staff became lazy and figured they'd just scrap everything, they've grown worse and worse about this over the years, part of what made the storyline good in the past was its consistency, intricacy and coherency

    but hey who cares what characters do, we can just make news one when we don't want to think things out any more

    yeah i kinda got caught up in my own feelings there toward the end, so what, point is they have no idea what they're doing any more and the storyline has become trash, generic fantasy novel bin here we come!
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Savor the Pulpy Flavor
    yeah i gotta agree with those that have said the gathering dark and arena

    they're two of my favorites because they go so in depth about the nature of spellcasting, while having dynamic characters
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Chandra-Jaya connection
    Quote from herohammer
    They may not be immortal, but they are still WIZARDS. REALLY POWERFUL WIZARDS.they can't auto shape shift etc., but I assume most of them have very great abilities to survive in extremely hostile environments. Sure, you can probably trap them under a mile of ice or something and they wouldn't be able to escape. Like a certain very powerful (evil?) mage.

    I think neo walkers are closer in power to non-sparked Elder Dragons or the most powerful wizards of the ages. Maybe pre ascension Mishra or Urza

    minor point here, misha wasn't a planeswalker, and neither urza nor mishra used magic prior to urza's ascension...

    as for the whole neowalker thing, i haven't decided if i like them or not yet, they remind me of the old style of characters from pre-rev times, if wizards starts killing them all off by the truckload though, they'll be kind of pointless

    and chandra probably learned what she knows from jaya before jaya died from whatever
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Mercadia's upside down mountain
    Quote from Mak
    By "made it that way" I mean Phyrexians may have carved it into that shape. In a passage from the book Volrath thinks of how he's shaped the mountain (figuratively) while he's playing with his shapeshifting powers. Indirect and highly suggestive, but it's a hint. If it was done before his time the locals wouldn't have to remember, considering how distorted their history has become.

    Which is why I mentioned that the Masques novel was written before it. Remember who The Thran's author is. The Masques writer may not have intended the mountain's shape to have been so ancient.

    even if the masques novel was written before the thran it was never directly stated in the novel that it was created that way through any kind of phyrexian science, therefore what was stated in the thran has to be true, regardless of when the novel was written
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Mercadia's upside down mountain
    if you read the thran it mentions that dyfed leaves the goblins and the senators on top of that mountain, with no way down right away, it would only make sense that a city developed there as the people left there found ways to survive, since theres not much point in finding a way down and building a city else where if everything you need is right on top of the mountain, keep in mind there wasn't always a massive city up there

    as for how it can stand being an inverted mountain..well its said again and again that different planes have different properties, its mentioned in quite a few of the books, what makes sense on one plane, arguably including this one, may not make sense on another, just look at pyrulea
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Time Spiral Novel Review *Spoilers*
    it was an ok book at best, way too much combat for my taste, not enough story, it was a little lame to be able to skip over entire chapters of combat and not miss anything plot wise (or to even have entire chapters of combat)

    anyway, i only have one question

    when they're seeing the different planeswalkers that protect the different lands throughout time, and they come to argoth, it was page 193

    "His motion slowed and Teferi found himself high over a different forest one with massive, healthy trees. A beautiful blonde woman dressed all in green stood balanced on the tip of a tall pine. She was weeping."

    who was the blonde woman?

    freyalise hadn't even been born during the time of the brothers war, and titania wasn't a planeswalker, so who was the woman?

    is it supposed to be gaea, finally given an actual form? did they ignore everything they've written about freyalise and its really her, or maybe titania? is it someone else entirely?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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