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Quote from SpeedGrapher »Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »We got to a point where the chinese proxy fake cards have a BETTER quality than the actual real cards. Yea, thats just pathetic and sad. Yeah, you're right. If you take an old swamp you can do the bend test or just get a good flex. Today if you bend any card you will destroy it. The cards quality is erratic too. Sometimes you get high end cards. Sometimes you get thin garbage with bad printing. Or you get the middle level which is still doesn't compare to an old swamp. They have very high margins now for their product line. That can easily afford to get the old print quality back. I don't think they need to be sued for anything though. If we are talking about suing a collectible card game company that is a bridge too far. The game will start to implode on it's own if people are that angry. They sure over priced this double masters product. I get that the old suggested retail for a booster box was around $140-$150. But that's crazy, no one ever paid that. It was $90 about for forever. So if we do the old retail then sure it's $300. But it should be more like $180. You get minimum 2x the rares plus some extra. If you feel you need to sue then you probably need to stop playing and find something else to do, because it's not fun anymore for you. I'd suggest completely getting out of tournament play. There are hundreds of sports out there that cost less money that are competitive if that's what people want.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »We got to a point where the chinese proxy fake cards have a BETTER quality than the actual real cards. Yea, thats just pathetic and sad.
Quote from 5colors »Quote from Flisch »Spatial Contortion's flavour text seems to imply that planeswalkers are immune at least to some of the effects of Eldrazi. Whether that extends to the corrupting power of Emrakul (or whether the flavour text is even canon) is anyone's guess. From a meta standpoint, I would assume planeswalkers are immune, similarly to how they are immune to phyresis, even though the reasons are different. Being immune to phyresis allows planeswalkers to interact with phyrexians without having to explain every time why this and that character survived unchanged and why Phyrexia doesn't simply just use these as infection vectors for other planes (like they used Karn). For eldrazi it's simpler: There's no point. Eldrazi can already move to other planes. Corrupting a planeswalker into an eldrazi adds nothing of value to the story. Neo walkers aren't immune to phyresis tho. Old walkers where since they didn't have a body that could transformed but its suggested neo walkers aren't as lucky. I even wanna say they said Melira gave Elspeth and her group her immunity as well as Tezzeret. Tho similar to phyresis Emrakul corruption was said a few times said to effect peoples souls and any damage to a soul can harm the spark.
Quote from Flisch »Spatial Contortion's flavour text seems to imply that planeswalkers are immune at least to some of the effects of Eldrazi. Whether that extends to the corrupting power of Emrakul (or whether the flavour text is even canon) is anyone's guess. From a meta standpoint, I would assume planeswalkers are immune, similarly to how they are immune to phyresis, even though the reasons are different. Being immune to phyresis allows planeswalkers to interact with phyrexians without having to explain every time why this and that character survived unchanged and why Phyrexia doesn't simply just use these as infection vectors for other planes (like they used Karn). For eldrazi it's simpler: There's no point. Eldrazi can already move to other planes. Corrupting a planeswalker into an eldrazi adds nothing of value to the story.
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Quote from Card Slinger J »I'm willing to make the argument that MTG is now involved with class warfare because of Double Masters. So class conflict often referred to as class struggle and class warfare is the political tension and economic antagonism that exists in society consequence to the socio-economic competition among the social classes are between rich, middle class, and poor. So we can view this as a pyramid and the majority of MTG players are maybe students, probably still in college, maybe younger people. Maybe they're people who don't have the best paying jobs so they would all be at the bottom of the pyramid and support the middle and the top of the pyramid. I started playing MTG right after I graduated from high school so I'd be almost at the bottom of the pyramid. The forms of class conflict include direct violence such as wars for resource and cheap labor, revolution, indirect violence such as deaths from starvation, illness, or unsafe working conditions, economic coercion such as threat of unemployment or with the withdrawal of investment capital or ideologue by way of political literature. So here we have a system where the majority of MTG players are unable to afford a $100 booster pack or it would be very unwise for them to buy something like this during the middle of a pandemic or at any time really pandemic or non-pandemic and we already have a premium product it's called Double Masters. That itself is a premium product over the other premium product being a regular Masters set. Then that itself is a premium product you know. So a regular Masters set you know, Modern Masters, Eternal Masters, it is itself a premium product of mostly reprints. Then when you make a premium product of a premium product hence Double Masters, double the value I guess and double the cost, then you have a VIP Edition of the premium product of the premium product of the premium product, you can see this going on and on but really it all comes down to class warfare and whether or not you have the money to be one of these cool kids. Do you have the money to open a $100 booster pack? It's been seen within the Sports Card Industry where some people have collected Sports cards for a very long time where some cards are actually made from gold as in 18 carat gold it can't be 24 carats because apparently the cards get molded. There's Sports cards that were made out of 18 karat gold and they had diamonds in them like legit diamonds including sapphires, rubies, and emeralds, no joke. There's a product called Panini Eminence and there's even different sized diamonds like really sometimes you get really large diamonds in them and of course it's resold throughout so it's not like they're losing money of course they're making a lot of money from these cards or diamonds and these cards made from gold. As in bars of gold in these cards. No joke. Taking a look at the Sports Card Industry and it's evolution it was inevitable that one day MTG would get there. $100 a booster pack is nothing to the Sports Card Industry. In fact $100 booster pack is considered cheap to the Sports Card Industry. We have things that cost $5,000 a booster pack like it's still packed. It's a box of 10 cards and a few encased cards If you will and it comes in a briefcase or it comes in a really nice wooden cigar box that isn't very fancy. Obviously the Sports Card Industry has dealt with this longer so they've modernized it and they made it so that it's more attractive. Every year you have to do something more attractive than the last year of course. So the Sports Card Industry is ahead of MTG in terms of display and how the cards feel. MTG kinda looks crappy for it's premium products nowadays to be quite honest though it wasn't like this back when they cared about foils more with the From the Vault series or how they used to print old school foils with the shooting star on the bottom of the cards. Why are those kind of foils now only reserved for Judge Promos? They stopped doing this recently but still those old school card templates in foil were pretty nice looking. The people who open Double Masters being $100 booster packs, they will tend to be wealthier, not all of them some of them will be casual players but they will tend to have more money, and they will tend to be of a different economic stature and that's not good for this game overall. It's very bad actually for society in general. $100 a booster pack is going to divide the games' player base as everyone regardless of their political class whether they're rich, middle class, or poor wants a booster pack. Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean that you don't want it. So you want the cards but you can't afford them. Isn't this a divide that Wizards of the Coast should be more worried about? Players should be treated as If they were ALL in the same social economic status not in segmented groups between rich, middle class, and poor. MTG isn't just a luxury product when it should be a product for ALL players. I get that it's a collectible item but at the same time players need to be able to afford the cost to play it.
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Quote from user_938036 »This is how a ban list should be used. Not just as an emergency fix for obviously broken formats but as a healthy booster for when formats stagnate or as basic quality of play improvements.
Quote from MoonliteKnight »When Zendikar first came out, it had a lot going on. It had the first appearance of enemy fetchlands. It had 'priceless treasures' repacked as a for-bearer of the lottery cards we got years later. Landfall was one of the best mechanics designed in a long time, finally overcoming the shortcomings of drawing unneeded lands late-game. It was the first block ever to feature vampires as a proper tribe (this was around the time that the Twilight movies were popular, so an obvious move), but most of all it was toted as Magic's version of a plane most resembling Dungeons and Dragons (which lets not forget that WotC also owns). While Magic has never had an official crossover with D&D yet, D&D has had a couple Magic planes (Ravnica and Theros) as source material for campaigns. Zendikar was a sort of love letter to those of us who really loved the classic D&D settings and tropes. Adventuring guilds, quests for all sorts of reasons, deadly traps, the list goes on. To say that Zendikar has no identity without Eldrazi is pretty weak in my opinion.
Quote from Xcric »Laughable
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Quote from Thorinox »I totally agree, and yeah, the only one I truly seen and should have been dealt with (like 20 years ago) was the Invoke Prejudice, but the rest is basically comes down to that. And the Imprison to me is just taken out of context. Its an iron looking mask from art work from the early 90s, its not as crisp and clean as it would be today, and then you got the people who say its because of "Slavery", well, biggest bust on that is slavery has been done for thousands of years from nearly every culture around the world.